two serous questions

Started by GRINACE, August 2, 2008 07:37 AM

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GRINACE

I just personally wanna know from you guys something. How would you concider my drawings? Like style-wise. is it original? or is it be like some generic anime inspired ghetto blah?

And my second question. I wanna lose the anime-ish of my drawings and yet go towards more realism and something more me & unique. how would I go about that?

Edit: it make that three questions. I have a habit of drawing small it feels weird drawing med & big picture on pencil. is that bad?

rtil

1. nothing in the world is original. there are only degrees of how much inspiration you can take from this and that to make something look like it's new. i could probably pick your art out of a bunch of tiny previews so to me it stands out in that sense

2. if you want more realism in your style study human faces. there's plenty of reference online for that. don't forget to study the anatomy of the face as well. really the only thing that seperats anime from realism are the heads (for the most part, especially in animation)

3. not really, but you should make yourself more comfortable with larger mediums to make yourself more versatile

GRINACE

Okay then Original isnt the word im looking for. Ill go with if its unique & stands out?

Yeah im actually looking around right now with my sketchbook (thats a first) and just doodling. Ill check out the anatomy of the face aswell  but what do you mean the heads that mainly seperates the 2? don't you have to do the egg-shape in both? or do u mean the faces? that makes sence.

this made me wanna start drawing realism.
http://www.sheezyart.com/view/1841247/

and how when i try drawing bigger the picture get all awkward.. & i lose the anatomy and all that good stuff.

f0d

#3
for me personally, even though i was never an anime artist, my drawings got more realistic when i started using a grid to copy references.

basically for starters, find a jpeg of someone's face like rtil said. try making a grid with the line tool and/or square tool in flash. paste the jpeg in flash on a layer below the grid and line up the grid over top of the jpeg. then copy the grid and press ctrl-shift-v to paste in place. hold shift, click the grid, and move it off to the side. now you should have one grid lined up over the jpeg and another with a white background. you copy it by drawing exactly what you see in each individual square of the grid. so like if his eye is in the box at the top left corner of the jpeg grid, you copy his eye in the box at the top left corner of the blank grid. then repeat for each box. and the great thing about flash is if you're copying colors, the eye dropper is the perfect tool for it.

try that a few times with different stuff like faces, bodies, etc. its a good to do with a pencil and paper too, you just have to draw the grid onto a reference from a magazine or something. once you start to get the hang of it, you won't need to grid anymore, and hopefully you won't need a reference image at all after awhile once it becomes second nature. copying beats the shit out of tracing because it actually helps you noticeably improve
I have more of a life writing this review at 1145 pm than you guys do making these movies. . .

Sinitron

shut up food you are shit at drawing go2hell with your bullshit lies and propaganda (i didnt read your post)

redmongoose

Quote from: Inaxisdo u have a problem, bastard?!

wps

ok grinace
ill be honest with ya boy

your drawings suck
ass

da drawing style is shit and the things you draw aren't interestin or excitin

so uhm yeh, draw something interesting for a change
not that shitty anime ghetto character of yours

that would be one step in da good direction
next to that you just need to draw allot and observe etc.
Quote from: KingDavidWPS you are really immature, RTIL is a nice normal guy and i'm not kissing his ass either - he's earned his title, and that's my opinion. Why the fuck would you join RTIL's forum if you had a problem with him and his society? I thought you left besides, yes you have talent but that doesn't give you the right to be an arrogant prick - i don't even care if you're joking.
Quote from: deadSTARI'm allowed to be a hypocrite, I'm better than you wps.
Quote from: taylorseriously wps and sinister are the most annoying people on the forums next to like yungjazz and mindchamber

every post by wps is elitist shit in all caps and telling people that they suck
Quote from: f0dwps and sinister are gay with all their hateful shit
Quote from: naruto102get the fuck out of here wps we don't like you
QuotePigletsMemories says:
Your art may be good, but you're still a complete, senseless asshole.

ZekeySpaceyLizard

i've never looked at your art thread

but judging on your previous avatar (not your current yungjazz one) and that one short flash animation you posted with your avatar guy spraypainting a wall, it really looked like you were trying really hard to mimic rtil. and doing a very poor job of it.

try doodling.
doodle without any preconceived notions or ideas as to what you want to draw. draw whatever pops into your head. let it be a train of thought.
see what comes out.
if it all looks like stuff you've drawn before, then you are indeed, stuck in a rut. and perhaps a butt.

f0d

Quote from: Zekeytry doodling.
doodle without any preconceived notions or ideas as to what you want to draw. draw whatever pops into your head. let it be a train of thought.
see what comes out.
this^
I have more of a life writing this review at 1145 pm than you guys do making these movies. . .

wps

Quote from: KingDavidWPS you are really immature, RTIL is a nice normal guy and i'm not kissing his ass either - he's earned his title, and that's my opinion. Why the fuck would you join RTIL's forum if you had a problem with him and his society? I thought you left besides, yes you have talent but that doesn't give you the right to be an arrogant prick - i don't even care if you're joking.
Quote from: deadSTARI'm allowed to be a hypocrite, I'm better than you wps.
Quote from: taylorseriously wps and sinister are the most annoying people on the forums next to like yungjazz and mindchamber

every post by wps is elitist shit in all caps and telling people that they suck
Quote from: f0dwps and sinister are gay with all their hateful shit
Quote from: naruto102get the fuck out of here wps we don't like you
QuotePigletsMemories says:
Your art may be good, but you're still a complete, senseless asshole.

rtil

also i'd stay away from the grid thing personally. art shouldn't be an attempt to mimic reality, it should be your statement of how you see reality

wps

rtil sees reality as a big ANIME CITY DURRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Quote from: KingDavidWPS you are really immature, RTIL is a nice normal guy and i'm not kissing his ass either - he's earned his title, and that's my opinion. Why the fuck would you join RTIL's forum if you had a problem with him and his society? I thought you left besides, yes you have talent but that doesn't give you the right to be an arrogant prick - i don't even care if you're joking.
Quote from: deadSTARI'm allowed to be a hypocrite, I'm better than you wps.
Quote from: taylorseriously wps and sinister are the most annoying people on the forums next to like yungjazz and mindchamber

every post by wps is elitist shit in all caps and telling people that they suck
Quote from: f0dwps and sinister are gay with all their hateful shit
Quote from: naruto102get the fuck out of here wps we don't like you
QuotePigletsMemories says:
Your art may be good, but you're still a complete, senseless asshole.

adamant

um mongoose what in the world lmao

GRINACE

Quote from: Zekeyi've never looked at your art thread

but judging on your previous avatar (not your current yungjazz one) and that one short flash animation you posted with your avatar guy spraypainting a wall, it really looked like you were trying really hard to mimic rtil. and doing a very poor job of it.

Lol Zeeky thats really old. I did that animation just to test my tablet when I first got it. And my other avatar with the face view wasnt done by me.

Ill show u my last finished pic and one im currently working on.

last finished.
http://www.sheezyart.com/view/1838814/

Work in progress.
Jazz (has nothing to do with the jazz here, she based off my friend and I had this character before Yj got here. I just never drew her).




redmongoose

Quote from: unconditionallyguarANTeedum mongoose what in the world lmao
2 serous answers
Quote from: Inaxisdo u have a problem, bastard?!

texas

Quote from: Zekeytry doodling.
doodle without any preconceived notions or ideas as to what you want to draw. draw whatever pops into your head. let it be a train of thought.
see what comes out.
if it all looks like stuff you've drawn before, then you are indeed, stuck in a rut. and perhaps a butt.
i am totally unable to put the things in my head on paper
so i do this with all my drawings

bcube

Quote from: GRINACEI just personally wanna know from you guys something. How would you concider my drawings? Like style-wise. is it original? or is it be like some generic anime inspired ghetto blah?

And my second question. I wanna lose the anime-ish of my drawings and yet go towards more realism and something more me & unique. how would I go about that?

Edit: it make that three questions. I have a habit of drawing small it feels weird drawing med & big picture on pencil. is that bad?

1) very anime inspired. I originally thought your drawings were just ghetto-anime type of thing. I still kinda do

2) just draw out. no rules. I kinda did this and eventually drew away from anime ( even though I still have a tinge of it aaaaaaa )

3) uhh, well not necessarily but you might wanna get pver that so you have less limits on drawing



Quote from: morgan freeman
Quote from: Zekeytry doodling.
doodle without any preconceived notions or ideas as to what you want to draw. draw whatever pops into your head. let it be a train of thought.
see what comes out.
if it all looks like stuff you've drawn before, then you are indeed, stuck in a rut. and perhaps a butt.
i am totally unable to put the things in my head on paper
so i do this with all my drawings

I did this alot. It helps

this is thebackalleys

texas

is it me or did almost everyone draw anime when they were younger

bcube

alot of people did when young
either that or starting with lion king or invader zim mostly!!

this is thebackalleys

texas

i wish i had started with invader zim art
thats much less embarrassing than anime
i hate myself knowing that i drew anime shit but at least i only did it for a small period of time so it didnt affect my style