two serous questions

[rtil]

when anime tries to delve into comedy (i.e. that horrible ^_^ shit) or pornography is when it really goes downhill

i agree, it tends to break the mood and it never makes me laugh. although i think there are a handful of exceptions, namely golden boy. epecially if you watch it in english (believe it or not)

[Thor]

2. if you want more realism in your style study human faces. there's plenty of reference online for that. don't forget to study the anatomy of the face as well. really the only thing that seperats anime from realism are the heads (for the most part, especially in animation)

Don't forget the moving holds with the hair and the camera pans and the bad lipsyncing.

Or are we talking about actual GOOD anime?

IMO style doesn't matter so much as long as it works and its appealing. Do I hate anime? No, as long as its done right (Studio Ghibli, for example), it's frickin' gorgeous. Does it have to be realistic? No; Looney Tunes wouldn't nearly be as funny if the animals were drawn with a high degree of realism.

I'm in no way qualified to give advice, but I'd look at cartoons that are NOT anime and see how they do it. Compare Disney's "Old Mill" with UPA's "George McBoingBoing", and that with a Bob Clampett WB short and a Chuck Jones WB short, and then that to a Chuck Jones MGM short, and then those to a William Kentridge charcoal animation. Perhaps you'd like Betty Boop? Or maybe 80s American cartoons would work out better. I don't think it'd hurt to at least look at all them and see how much you like what they each do.

I'd say just go with whatever feels natural (because FORCING anything never looks good) for you. Style shouldn't matter at all if the cartoon's good; if people complain about the style, it usually means there's something else wrong with it (I don't fault most animes for being horrible because they're ANIME, I usually hate them because the animation/story/dialogue/pacing is terrible).

...actually, now that I think of it, it'd be hilarious to see Dragonball Z quality animation with the moving holds of Betty Boop.

[rtil]

well i've always thought that anime's biggest weakness is lipsync, even in ghibli. they usually only work with 2 or 3 mouth shapes, i think that they could be more dynamic with that. they're also really strict about staying on model, which sometimes makes the animation a tiny bit stiff. like, i don't think we'll ever see anything come out of japan that's as off-model as something like ren and stimpy or flapjack.

[f0d]

ive been watching old popeye and tom and jerry cartoons, every episode is exactly the same but goddamn they're well animated

[adamant]

sorry for changin the subject back to "how i started drawing", but i kinda want to share my tale:

i drew rocko, kirby, and pokemon (just the characters, the people kinda bored) all the time when i was a kid

then i tried drawing people around summer of '05 and was terrible at it so i just practiced more

i think around dec '05/jan '06 i tried early on to think of what would be my unique characteristic behind my characters
i took the conjoined eyes idea from paul ter voorde but warped around with it because i didn't wanna completely yank it from him

then around early 07 i really tried thinking of new gimmicks for my style and sometime in the summer my style really started to pop

of course around the time school started i noticed something awry with the way i drew: they're wasn't really any substance to my character designs, at least when it came to the way realism affects cartoons

so i took some real life drawing courses and tried working around the rules of realism to think of new ways of furthering my character designs

i guess my interest in music kind of edged me on into trying to come up with a unique style as well
i definitely know that some of the stuff i saw whilst researching african contemporary art and the roots of the earliest russian avant-garde movements pushed me too

[Sinitron]

you think too much

that's what your problem is

[adamant]

you think too much

that's what your problem is

lmfao it's so true  

[MRat]

Yeah I don't ever bother to categorize art. I find it highly counterproductive and against the nature of art itself to put 4 walls around it and give it a name.

I also don't think I ever drew fan art of anything until recently, and I've only drawn maybe 4 things recently. If I could go through my life and count the art that I intentionally tried to make something recognizable there would be probably 8 pieces total.

[Fuzz]

I just personally wanna know from you guys something. How would you concider my drawings? Like style-wise. is it original? or is it be like some generic anime inspired ghetto blah?

And my second question. I wanna lose the anime-ish of my drawings and yet go towards more realism and something more me & unique. how would I go about that?

Edit: it make that three questions. I have a habit of drawing small it feels weird drawing med & big picture on pencil. is that bad?

Why so serious???

[bcube]

no 4chan statements ( even though its from a movie, it is now being used alot by 4chan so uh yup )

[MRat]

I love how Why So Serious was a massive component of the add campaign yet played a tiny part in the movie.

[adamant]

no 4chan statements ( even though its from a movie, it is now being used alot by 4chan so uh yup )

who cares, we know what context he's using it in so it shouldn't really hurt anyone

[Fuzz]

I don't know anything about 4chan cause I don't go there. So sue me.

[mishkamash]

uhgh

[Fuzz]

WHAT'S THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?!

[mishkamash]

your face

[texas]

4chan ruins everything

[f0d]

4chan ruins everything

^

[sQueef]

.

[ZekeySpaceyLizard]

no 4chan statements ( even though its from a movie, it is now being used alot by 4chan so uh yup )

WOW