Kill La Kill

[naturally]

that's mostly why i said despite all the other details. i still think they had the same idea in what the main characters were getting across after the final battle. the characters were obviously left with different situations but i was referring to what the main good/main bad were discussing. i really don't think what ryuko goes on to say at the end to ragyo is all that different from what simon says, except that it's about clothes and humans instead of, well, drills and humans. maybe i'm pushing it a bit but i don't think i'm the only person who would say that they get very similar in feeling near the end. i would say that ttgl was a bit more intense and had a bit more closure too.

i don't mean to imply that ttgl is the most original thing ever at all, or something that all things should be held up to, but i doubt i'd be so critical towards kill la kill's wrap up if ttgl didn't already exist and may as well have a literal connection to it with hiroyuki imaishi on board.

[rtil]

i guess it's just another case of me being the only person who doesn't think ttgl is a masterpiece

[naturally]

i wouldn't call either a masterpiece but i would say they're both pretty good in their own respects

i just liked ttgl because manliness and i liked kill la kill because ladies

[Kött]

it would be fair to point out that i gave klk an 8/10 as well, because regardless of how i feel it was an above average series.

I think some of you are being a bit too objective with this show. What counts at the end of the day is how well a show has entertained me as an individual, not how many flaws and weaknesses it had despite all that. The fact that you feel about a show in a certain way is the product of its content and its execution and while there are many things to criticize about kill la kill it is still an amazing show for what it is.
I expected a much darker second half and much more drama in the later episodes simply because I was trying to find the same kind of heart in it that made me enjoy TTGL, however, KlK was never intended to be that twisted but much more cheerful instead.

The reason why TTGL seems to have more heart in it for many people is based on those grim twists and the character death (which I also falsely predicted for KlK). I guess they kinda tried to pull it off with Senketsu's 'death', but the moment of his farewell was too rushed to fully sink in and I guess we knew too little about him to be as emotionally blown away about it as about Kamina's death, which had a major impact on the plot and a fully developed (albeit rather clichéd) character with a complete background story behind it. Senketsu kinda vanished before we even got to know what he really was and how his personality, his emotions and his entire character had come into existence. I think the event of his death was supposed to be way more tragic than most of us perceived it to be, since he had clearly shown a capability of emotions and a strong bond of friendship to all of the main characters. He even saved their lives on several occasions. In fact, he is an extremely tragic character, but it feels so hard to take this seriously when he is essentially just a piece of clothing and that's a bit of a shame. What he was or is still missing is some kind of tragic background story to completely shift the audience's views about him, if you know what I mean...
They did that pretty well in Kanon 2006. Introducing a character to the audience who always seems a bit mysterious at first, allowing the audience to get to know that character a bit better and to form a relationship, confronting the character with some kind of devastating situation, THEN explaining the character's background story and AFTER THAT delivering the final blow. And the second last step is exactly what was missing for Senketsu's death to be impactful.

It's funny, isn't it? A main character has actually died in this final episode and none of us really seems to find it important enough to discuss it in this thread. I think this was Triggers biggest mistake, but if they are clever, they might actually thematize it in the OVA (which I really hope). Nothing would be better than a belated heart wrenching epilogue, making it clear to the audience how tragic but necessary Senketsu's sacrifice really was.
Then again, it's mainly a comedy show, so I'm not getting my hopes up too high for that to happen.

[crackers]

Other than being completely underwhelming, I don't really think there's much to say about the ending. Don't get me wrong - I liked Kill la Kill, just not the ending

[rtil]

It's funny, isn't it? A main character has actually died in this final episode and none of us really seems to find it important enough to discuss it in this thread. I think this was Triggers biggest mistake, but if they are clever, they might actually thematize it in the OVA (which I really hope). Nothing would be better than a belated heart wrenching epilogue, making it clear to the audience how tragic but necessary Senketsu's sacrifice really was.

to be fair, senketsu was a talking piece of clothing from space.. or something. it's harder to establish the same level of empathy with a character like senketsu then it is a person. what bothers me more is the fact that senketsu seemed to be the only talking godrobe. junketsu was self-aware to some extent, but we never heard it talk, and afaik it never spoke to satsuki. senketsu was able to communicate to 3 people in KLK. i think the most tragic thing is that it was the last piece of her father that ryuko had, and i thought it was pretty obvious that he had served his purpose and was designed to sort of self-destruct after achieving it.

the epilogue is probably not going to do anything like that, it's very clear that it's going to be about the characters' lives after graduating from Honnouji Academy, it probably won't be much more than a slice of life type episode. if they were going to bother explaining all the loose ends they'd need more than a single episode to do it properly.

[Kött]

I'm pretty sure that it's going to have a slice of life-ish premise, but it would be weird if it wouldn't also deal with the loss of Senketsu and how Ryuko's trying to come to terms with her past. All she had been doing up until the end was to fight in order to find out who she is and how she can achieve happiness. She's like a veteran returning from a long war and the way she was staring at the sky indicated that she was still missing the past days and longing for some final answers. Maybe I'm overanalyzing it a bit too much, but I don't think and I don't hope the OVA will be another Kira-esque episode full of fanservice and happy lucky dochy yes yes yes (although it wouldn't even be that surprising or terrible for a show like Kill la Kill).
I'm not expecting Clannad 2.0, but we shall see... (in half a year)

[rtil]

i got a much happier vibe from the ending credits. yea she kinda looked sad when she saw that sailor uniform but she also smiled when she turned around and the rest of it was very cheery. she may be content with the fact that her original quest for revenge was just a smaller part of the picture and she can live a happy life now, even if she may never completely know what happened.

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[Gilthwixt]

Nonon is still <3

Kill la Kill Official English Dubbed Trailer

[rtil]

nonon is perfect
everything else? really hard to say right now. i'd like to see a prolonged clip from an episode instead of little snippets

[Stu4U]

i'm really curious what eye patch bitch and ragyo will sound like

[zwimmy]

I agree they got Nonon pretty spot on. Satsuki... not so much.

[sev]

when i first heard that klk was getting dubbed, i immediately thought, "holy shit, i hope sarah williams voices nonon" and it looks like i got my wish

sarah williams was peacock in skullgirls and sayaka in the madoka dub, among other roles. she hung out with some of us when we got ramen in LA last summer, and listening to her talk normally, her voice is like made to voice cartoons

[sev]

actually to be honest, i think all of the elite four sound pretty good, i think sarah just kinda stole the show there actually. the only one im not really sure about is gamagoori. also sanageyama might be disappointing in the future, since we haven't heard his scream yet. i'm not sure if any american voice actor can scream like hiyama. senketsu sounds really good to me too actually the more i listen to it, he just doesnt sound like the previous senketsu. instead, he kinda sounds younger, which i honestly don't have a problem with

[rtil]

when you think about it what the hell is a living shirt supposed to sound like anyway. in that respect i guess i don't have a problem with senketsu sounding totally different.

[sev]

when you think about it what the hell is a living shirt supposed to sound like anyway

get a voice actor who can vocally imitate the sound of clothing flapping around

[valiums]

i think gamagoori's voice would be perfect if it were just a little bit lower, but i like it as it is now well enough

ryuuko's voice is audio tapioca though

[Gilthwixt]

ryuuko's voice is audio tapioca though

Is that good or bad? I have no idea if you like Tapioca, so...

[valiums]

baaaaaaaaad


[spoiler]i love tapioca (pudding) but it is apparently the most boring food ever created so   [/spoiler]

[rtil]

it is kind of generic, and she usually plays young boys, but i think it does fit her character. ryuko is supposed to be edgy. some of the things she says in japanese are bound to be more cringey in english.