Kill La Kill

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Kött

It does seem a bit odd, yes... They will have to deliver a decent boss fight, at least one significant power up for one of the good guys, the death or a similar kind of incapacitation for the remaining bad guys and a brief part about how life goes on for the good guys plus a lot of revealations and explanations in regards to the open questions.
The biggest and most obvious question mark seems to be the scarred back of Ragyou, which heavily implies that she is merely a servant of an even more powerful villain, but as much as I like the show, I would be pissed if it ended with a cliffhanger and a 'to be continued' note. Way too many studios in these days make the mistake of simply dragging shit out way past its peak and it just goes downhill or gets dull after a certain amount of episodes. Also, while I don't think it's wrong to compare this show to Gurren Lagann, I wouldn't want a goddamn clone.
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rtil

if they skip the OP and roll the credits over more animation they could get a lot more done. and an ova episode could tie up any loose ends. i don't think it needs another season tbh. it's already topped out in terms of boss battles. if they get any more crazy it's going to suffer from dbz syndrome.

naturally

i'd rather see a movie than anything but i doubt that will happen

Kött

The problem that I have with movies is that they take ages to produce and even longer until they are released on BD and DVD and available to us gaijins. As much as I appreciate the choice for a franchise as Madoka, for instance, (although it might have been better off without a continuation) the fact that the fourth movie hasn't even been announced just drives me crazy.
[spoiler]...especially considering how the third one ended.[/spoiler]
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rtil

not to get off topic but ugh rebellion was so mediocre

Kött

#285
I fucking loved every second of it, but yeah... the first half was basically fanservice the second half and the ending pretty much disrupted all previous events and challenge the wonderful conclusion of the first movies/the series and Homura's character development from badass to batshit insane seems a bit extreme. The big twists weren't as awesome and surprising as those from the original series, but I still really loved the way they executed it and the visuals as well as the soundtrack are simply beautiful.

Back on topic.

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rtil


Kött

I actually did think about going for Gamagori on the next con, but I am fucking short (5'8")... Wouldn't have much of an impact as a fucking dwarf. Then again... it might work like this...
Nudist beach might be cool as well and much cheaper, but it would take some more balls.
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Kött

Ok, short update: The soundtrack contains another song of which only really short and insignificant parts have been played so far and it leads me to another final theory about what will happen in the final episode.

(while it is a mere theory, it is based on actual material in regards to the show which hasn't completely been revealed in the anime yet, so proceed at your own discretion)
[spoiler]It's called "Till I Die" and here's how it sounds:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7NT-rTpOQA

On another note, I read somewhere that the creators actually mentioned in an interview that the show's going to have a bittersweet ending (but I haven't found any evidence to confirm that information yet... well, we will see).


[spoiler]If I'd have to guess I would say that Senketsu's gonna disappear once the battle is over or sacrifice himself for Ryuko. "I meant to be your piece until I die" almost seems too obvious and he is one of the few characters whose "death" wouldn't leave the fanbase in utter despair or madness.[/spoiler][/spoiler]

I'm going to watch the final episode in two days from now. Probably not going to return as soon as the episode has been released to avoid spoiling myself so this will by my final shot at predicting something about this show.
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rtil

hmm i never thought about the possibility of that happening but it makes sense now that you mention it. i also won't be seeing the final episode until friday so i'll be avoiding spoilerific sites like tumblr until then.

iinnkk

so, any opinions on the end?



Gilthwixt

It was fun. Surprised there wasn't an epilogue, but maybe EP 25 will have it.

naturally

#292
i feel pretty much how i thought i would. not really all that satisfied considering it didn't bring anything new to the table, but it's nothing i didn't expect.

i had a lot more hope for this series at the beginning but it ended up being pretty generic. i'm sure people will disagree.

Quote from: Gilthwixt on March 28, 2014 05:21 AM
EP 25

apparently the bluray's supposed to have some unaired 'extra' episode but i don't know if i'm expecting an episode 25.

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Stu4U

#294
i don't think its too important but
[spoiler]rei hououmaru just kinda disappeared after she was ripped out of ragyo during the ground battle[/spoiler]

naturally


Kött

#296
It's really hard for me to judge the show as a whole after this ending...
I enjoyed the final episode, but it hasn't shaken me up as much as I thought it would... Apart from wrapping up the war between covers and mankind it felt just as 'epic' as many other good episodes (the dilemma being that Kill la Kill had a lot of those) and by 'epic' I mean well directed and fun to watch, but it was simply missing something to surprise me and it didn't tie up any of the loose ends that I had on my mind. Something like a final major plot twist that gives the viewer a whole new perspective on the previous events or when rewatching the show.
I also expected a bit more atmosphere/feels for Senketsu's death/disappearance. They didn't even play the damn song and his goodbye felt a bit rushed and forced. They didn't really explain why he vanished, did they?
Furthermore, the Barbie doll anatomy in this episode really bugged me for some reason (it's a goddamn show about nakedness and feminine charms, and if you don't have the balls to show some nipples, you should at least have the decency to properly censor them).
On the other hand, I really liked how everyone worked together in this final episode and I liked the idea of combining the Kamuis and the other uniforms and the catch Ryuko scene was pretty nice as well. The ending/epilogue was cute, but it didn't really tell much about how life goes on for everyone and it seemed a tad too generic considering how the show started... ohwait, detail. Looking at Gamagori's getup and his constitution, it looks like he's about to confess.  :sup:

As for Kill la Kill as a whole, I think the main problem of this show was that it constantly creates new small elements which seem like important details for the later story but are then completely dropped and never mentioned again (such as the scars on Ragyou's back, the different color of the fiber hybrids' hearts, the whole wedding dress story, Ryuko's outburst etc.). Especially be background story behind some characters would have interested me a lot but we barely get to know anything about most of the bad characters, for instance, their quirks and features and why they act the way they do.
Instead of using twists that concern the entire story and have serious consequences for the entire plot, Kill la Kill has always been driven by sudden, small twists in the middle of an episode, which have either been immediately reverted (i.e. several almost-character-deaths) or have had little impact on the plot as a whole (i.e. Sanageyama's wondrous enlightenment). But I can't really say that I disliked that... every single episode had me entertained and I have always had great anticipation for the next episode. Kill la Kill has stayed loyal to its comedic formula and not drifted off into some super edgy gap, but because of that reason it's really hard to take its other, epic, more serious and dark side as seriously as I personally would have liked to. In retrospect it seems like none of the good guys ever was in serious danger and that just makes the whole show seem a bit weaker considering how often it actually looked like one of the important characters would die. It's like they were trying to create those shock and sadness moments but too afraid to actually go through with it.
I guess I simply kept expecting the big wham episode where this innocence of the KlK universe would be changed into a certain dark reality as earlier episodes as well as the premise as a whole actually hinted at such a twist.

Still, this anime was a really good watch, very original and funny and got me hyped up every week for the past months. Solid 9/10
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rtil

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regarding the OVA
TVアニメ「キルラキル」第25話予告(19秒ver.) Kill la Kill episode 25 preview short preview
Quote"The fight of the fated sisters has ended, but there is one story we've neglected to tell - the various tales of graduating from Honnouji Academy. Kill la Kill episode 25, a second farewell, a completely original work, will be bundled with the September 3rd release of the 9th BD/DVD."


thoughts on ending [anything past this point is spoilers, not going to spoiler the entire thing since if you are reading this page you should have already seen it]

it did feel a little rushed but i'm glad it ended where it did. there does come a point when absurdity in a show can get out of hand and i think TTGL suffered from that heavily in its last arc and had a lot less impact than its humble beginnings. we got one final "super saiyan" battle and that was the end of it. and i did like the last conversation between ragyo and ryuko and why they are complete opposites - ragyo basically saying that none of this matters and everything will come to an end some day, and ryuko is only delaying the inevitable. but ryuko said that humans will still continue being humans, she clearly doesn't care about things on that scale for better or worse.

although it is true there are a lot of loose ends that they never touched on again, and i doubt they will in the OVA but i will just assume they figured it wasn't important and left it to our imagination because they only had time for the main storyline. there are actually a lot of questions i have about things that were hinted at but nobody has the answers so i'm not going to bother.

i like how nudist beach's attacks were pretty much always ineffective, they were probably the most useless fighters in the whole show, even mako was better at warding off covers than them. but they did give everyone a place of refuge in their darkest hour so they get a pass.

overall KLK was a huge breath of fresh air, there's really nothing like it and i doubt there ever will be again - it never took itself too seriously but maintained a huge amount of interest and suspense, and for that alone it is very special. sad to see it go but it did what it set out to do. i doubt anyone will agree with me here but since no one will stop with the comparisons i might as well chip in and say i think it is better than TTGL. it was strong from start to finish, never running out of steam or taking any awkward steps in the plot that would be out of place (like politics and government). where TTGL failed to live up to its own expectations after a huge timeskip, KLK steamed right on ahead from arc to arc. it was intense, it was hilarious, it was full of energy. the plot was insane, the battles were epic, the heroes were lovable, the villains were inhumanely evil, it was a successful exercise in excess. too often these shows try to get super serious at some point and it comes off as unintentionally hilarious and ham-fisted, and while KLK did have its touching moments they were brief and charming. at times i think it did feel a little bit like they were making everything up as they went along, yet somehow it all worked. i give it an 8/10, which is i believe is the same score i gave TTGL, but i give KLK the edge for staying consistently good.

naturally

#298
it would be fair to point out that i gave klk an 8/10 as well, because regardless of how i feel it was an above average series. i don't really like comparing this show to ttgl either, but i would say that i felt ttgl had notably more heart than klk even though it gets kind of strong on that near the end. i would agree that it's nice to see an anime like ttgl that didn't take itself too seriously, but in this case i feel like not taking yourself seriously just leads to a lack of closure and me not remembering your show very well except for tits, clothes, and that the good guys win. it's not like this is the first time i've seen a 'power level' anime that doesn't take itself seriously and at this point i think it's more than a bit overdone. the end was pretty much ttgl's ending despite all the other details. the intensity of the pacing was probably my favourite part of the whole series.

all the designs were very original though and for that i commend... mostly sushio.

rtil

i don't recall TTGL's ending being anywhere near as happy as KLK's.

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