Kill La Kill

[Gilthwixt]

Are you questioning whether Ryuko's flashback actually happened? I really, really doubt that. It's definitely false implanted memories.

Ryuko's Way:

[X] Lost
[  ] Not Lost

Just a question, is anyone else noticing a decline in animation quality over the course of the series? It's been happening for a while now but I'm getting really disappointed in all of these barely animated filler sequences.

[Stu4U]

yea i've been noticing it too. the low frame dialogue sequences and tweening is getting more and more noticeable, but i'm sure it'll be made up for these last upcoming episodes.

and i really REALLY hope you're right and i'm thinking way too hard on this, but you can't be 100% sure... ryuko's expression at that part hit me really hard dude ;^;

[Kött]

Waaaah! How can I know whether the spoiler includes knowledge for the latest episode (which I haven't watched yet) or not?

[Kött]

Ok, I have now finished watching episode 20 as well. Time to rejoin the club.

Are you questioning whether Ryuko's flashback actually happened? I really, really doubt that. It's definitely false implanted memories.

Ryuko's Way:

[X] Lost
[  ] Not Lost

Just a question, is anyone else noticing a decline in animation quality over the course of the series? It's been happening for a while now but I'm getting really disappointed in all of these barely animated filler sequences.

Now that you mention it... there really are a lot of scenes which utilize rather simple animation techniques. Then again, we already had a lot of tweening and cheap animation tricks in the very first episodes, but for some reason, those parts never really bothered me. Of course, there were some really amazingly animated moments throughout the episodes we have seen so far, but KlK has generally always seemed to me like a show which exploits and emphasizes certain techniques of simple animation deliberately to parody them. My point is: Hasn't this anime always been like that?
Throughout the latest episodes, the show's pace really has increased and we get a lot of great twists and an interesting development, which is why this goofy style of animation might seem a bit more out of place than in the beginning. I know that might seem a bit lackluster from an animator's perspective, but I am pretty sure that you guys are right about the studio, saving up some of that potential for the moments where the really good animation really does have a great impact.

[spoiler]As for the implanted memories issue: When I watched episode 20, the thought of Ryuko's happy memories with her mother not being implanted ones but the real deal never even crossed my mind, although it would make an interesting twist.

What I was mainly concerned about was Satsuki's flashback about meeting her father and right now it seems like that plothole did receive an explanation. Knowing that the possibility of implanting fake memories and rewriting a person's past in his or her mind exists, we now know that at least one of the truths about the girls' flashbacks (of course this excludes the newly implanted memories from episode 20), must be fake. At the moment, I am pretty sure that Satsuki never actually met her father at that time, when he supposedly told her about her wedding dress and initiated her fury against her mother. But that means he must have been capable of altering her memories (as his appearance had already changed at that point. Again, Satsuki is only one year older than Ryuko, according to the online sources. This might simply turn out to be a false piece of information as well, which would completely overthrow this theory).

But if he was capable of manipulating memories, why would he do it at that particular point instead of waiting until she grew older? Letting her know about the truth and turning her into a secret rebel as a child would have been too much of a risk for him if he actually did have the capability of completely altering memories. It simply doesn't add up.
On the other hand, there was a picture of 5-year-old? Satsuki and the silhouette of her supposed father, which kinda threw me off when I rewatched parts of the earlier episodes with this theory in mind.

In any case, it seems clear that the flashbacks we have seen so far are not necessarily illustrating the truth about the past, which basically means that anything could happen now. Maybe all the flashbacks so far will turn out to be implanted memories by Ragyou to achieve a certain goal. Right now, the show really keeps me guessing and I like that...[/spoiler]

[rtil]

the animation getting worse is par the course, they're running out of time and money, and they probably spent a good chunk of the budget on the earlier fight scenes, most notably Ryuko vs Satsuki in Osaka. and whatever they have planned for the finale surely took up a significant amount of budget as well. the industry there is at a breakneck pace, they have to cut corners when they can and at least Trigger openly embraces that fact instead of trying to hide it.

[Gilthwixt]

Kill La Kill 21: "Wait, did I download a hentai by mistake?"

Edit: Fucking trigger trolling the shit out of us. They really had me worried there, twice.

[Kött]

Kill La Kill 21: "Wait, did I download a hentai by mistake?"

Edit: Fucking trigger trolling the shit out of us. They really had me worried there, twice.

[spoiler]Yeah, holy shit... I actually thought that was it for Mako (assuming your worries were not supposed to be related to the ecchi scenes). Both scenes did have a way more serious tension than the previous scenes in which her life was in danger (which actually happened regularly during the first couple of episodes). So far, she seemed to a kind of immortal, comedy sidekick but recently (despite still being rather goofy), her role has become much more important.

So far, KlK has been rather tame in regards to character deaths (considering its name). As of yet, none of the characters which actually lived at the beginning of the show has died, although we are constantly confronted with blood and violence. Mako's death would probably be the cruelest and most twisted event that could happen at this moment and the way the story has been progressing lately as well as the countless foreshadings, I actually do consider it to be a possible turn of events. My prediction: Episode 23 (But fuck that, let's hope that theory turns out to be bs)

At the moment, it actually looks like Ryuko is about to bite the dust. But that twist would be a bit too cliché for what I would expect from the guys behind this project.[/spoiler]

[Gilthwixt]

Kill La Kill 21: "Wait, did I download a hentai by mistake?"

Edit: Fucking trigger trolling the shit out of us. They really had me worried there, twice.

[spoiler]Yeah, holy shit... I actually thought that was it for Mako (assuming your worries were not supposed to be related to the ecchi scenes). Both scenes did have a way more serious tension than the previous scenes in which her life was in danger (which actually happened regularly during the first couple of episodes). So far, she seemed to a kind of immortal, comedy sidekick but recently (despite still being rather goofy), her role has become much more important.

So far, KlK has been rather tame in regards to character deaths (considering its name). As of yet, none of the characters which actually lived at the beginning of the show has died, although we are constantly confronted with blood and violence. Mako's death would probably be the cruelest and most twisted event that could happen at this moment and the way the story has been progressing lately as well as the countless foreshadings, I actually do consider it to be a possible turn of events. My prediction: Episode 23 (But fuck that, let's hope that theory turns out to be bs)

At the moment, it actually looks like Ryuko is about to bite the dust. But that twist would be a bit too cliché for what I would expect from the guys behind this project.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I think if they were going to do it, they would've have killed her already. rtil was right, Mako is just too important to kill off, and it just wouldn't benefit the series much, at least not this late in the game. That stuff with Mako's eyes reading I die season 1 and the near deaths this episode is probably just Trigger trolling the shit out of the audience for fun, and it worked.[/spoiler]

[rtil]

[spoiler]it's worth noting that the "S1 I DIE" screen can also be read as "21 I DIE" , and for a moment you do think she may have died but whatever was bleeding was neither Senketsu or Mako but rather some metaphor of Ryuko shattering the false reality implanted in her head by Ragyo. If anyone is going to be dying it is has to be Nui and Ragyo. so far KLK has played it pretty straight when it comes to revenge stories, Ryuko could have died when the story was still about avenging her father but it's really no longer about that , and on top of that Satsuki's red herring card has already been played. I think anything short of a "good end" would be a cheap twist of fate by Trigger at this point.[/spoiler]

[iinnkk]

Well at least Ryuuko is back

Shot Through the Heart

[rtil]

looking back on that clip i think ryuko did something really dumb - she basically gave nui the other scissor sword. i mean nui can't die unless she is cut by the two together, and so she'll just pull the scissor sword out of herself and now she has both.

[Kött]

looking back on that clip i think ryuko did something really dumb - she basically gave nui the other scissor sword. i mean nui can't die unless she is cut by the two together, and so she'll just pull the scissor sword out of herself and now she has both.

I noticed that as well but does she really need both of them to kill Nui and her mother?

Oye, I forgot to mention it, but as it has turned out, the theory about getting stronger the less skin you show seems to be true for the godrobes, as synchronization mode was explained to be a way of utilizing the power of life fibres without losing control to them. So showing ass and tits provides protection but prevents them from unleashing their full potential.

Lastly, I'm going to make a prediction. As unlikely as it seems to you guys at this point, I think that Mako will die in the second last episode. Even though it goes completely against the function of her role in the show, the foreshadings (Heaven ED, Calculator scene, death references in almost every speech, certain quotes) as well as the fact that the villains are slowly starting to perceive her as a problem simply suggests that it's not over yet and it wouldn't be the first time the two creators pull off a gainax ending. But again, this is just some dumb theory by someone who likes dark twists even more than his favorite characters.
Also, knowing Mako as a character, even if said event would occur, there would still be a 60% chance that it just turns out to be some comedic disney death. The guys from Trigger probably know how many fans they would piss off by killing her.

[rtil]

i just don't see any point in killing mako.. i think trigger should use KLK as an opportunity to finally detach themselves from the gainax name and for once not do a troll ending. they already did this with LWA and i hope they continue to do so.  i guess gurren lagann didn't have one, either.

also, iirc, the only way you can kill a life fiber being is with both of those blades put together. that's why ryuko needs both, so she can cut up the original life fiber. otherwise it will just regenerate

[Gilthwixt]

My friend posted this on my FB wall

[BluPhoenix]

>grandma ragyo

lmao

[rtil]

disgusting

[Stu4U]

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[rtil]

[spoiler]i guess ryuko has leveled up now, nui is no match for her

i could see satsuki dying in the finale[/spoiler]

[Kött]

[spoiler]Ok, there go the arms of the grand courtier. I guess you were right about the scissors only unleashing their powers when they are used together. I actually like the cartoonish violence in Kill la Kill, but the lack of suffering for Nui is a bit of a shame. Anyway, 2 more limbs to go and we have Nana 2.0.

Also, hell yeah! I really lost my shit when Mako showed up in her 2-star uniform once again. This actually makes up more than enough for her not synchronizing with Senketsu in the previous episode.



The life fibres and the uniforms are back in the game and the midboss characters from the first episodes are back as well, presumably to join the final battle. Well, I guess that makes it a bit more interesting, since every single character will be able to unleash their full potential one more time before the show ends... but damn man, no nudust beach Nonon anymore... at least for now.

Oh, and there was the big reveal. Letting Ryuko fight herself and her army in order to train her was Satsuki's plan after all... It seems kinda lame, considering people predicted this from the early episodes onwards. Then again, they did have most people fooled by postponing this revelation to this point. [/spoiler]

[spoiler]i guess ryuko has leveled up now, nui is no match for her

i could see satsuki dying in the finale[/spoiler]

[spoiler]You mean as the former mentor and new friend of Ryuko, passing her mission and hope on to her now fully trained disciple? It might be possible, but if she actually does die, I think that it might much rather happen one episode before the finale (to increase the hatred for Ragyou).

Although, if there's someone of the good guys who would have to die according to the traditional pattern of this type of story, it would be Ryuko, considering that she would be the only fibre being left on the planet after humanity has won.

Mako might die to deconstruct the fuck out of the genre and to create even more hatred for the bad guys... and I guess that would define an entirely new trope. But this is more of a dark fantasy that fascinates and disgusts me at the same time.[/spoiler]

[rtil]

[spoiler]if mako was going to die it would have happened a long time ago. so far, nobody has died , so if they kill anyone it's going to be pretty significant. but if it's a non-villain, i don't see the point since there is almost no time left in the show, their sacrifice will be kind of pointless. [/spoiler]