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rtil

#40
May 19, 2008 04:57 PM
pictures of flowers are boring

i prefer your artwork with the line tool, it's much cleaner and stylistically interesting

Fuzz

#41
May 20, 2008 12:58 AM
If anyone feels like giving me some art lessons, feel free to hit me up on AIM.

wps

#42
May 20, 2008 02:22 PM
why yes someone else can magically give you a bucket of talent and then you'll be famous



ART CAN NOT BE TOUGHT
IT SOMETHING
YOU
MUST
FEEEEEEEEEL
Quote from: KingDavidWPS you are really immature, RTIL is a nice normal guy and i'm not kissing his ass either - he's earned his title, and that's my opinion. Why the fuck would you join RTIL's forum if you had a problem with him and his society? I thought you left besides, yes you have talent but that doesn't give you the right to be an arrogant prick - i don't even care if you're joking.
Quote from: deadSTARI'm allowed to be a hypocrite, I'm better than you wps.
Quote from: taylorseriously wps and sinister are the most annoying people on the forums next to like yungjazz and mindchamber

every post by wps is elitist shit in all caps and telling people that they suck
Quote from: f0dwps and sinister are gay with all their hateful shit
Quote from: naruto102get the fuck out of here wps we don't like you
QuotePigletsMemories says:
Your art may be good, but you're still a complete, senseless asshole.

Fuzz

#43
May 20, 2008 06:42 PM
You think so? cause I'm pretty sure that people have to practice to get good. How can you practice something you don't know? Like me. I know very little about how to draw people and scenery from a perspective. Things like that need to be taught because when I try, everything is out of proportion or at weird angles. It can be taught. I'm not asking for a magic bucket of talent, no matter how cool that would be, just some help.

sQueef

#44
May 20, 2008 07:58 PM
well I GOT TO WHERE I AM TODAY by getting tips from artists that were better than me, but then i had to practice and practice and practice some more to understand the complexities of the concepts they explained to me.

so I guess I lean more towards wps' opinion that if you want to become a good artist its basically gonna require a shitload of work on your part.

And remember the famous saying that goes somethin like "You will make 1,000 pieces of shit before you make 1 good piece of art" or something like that Im kind of improvising here.
Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

wps

#45
May 20, 2008 08:11 PM
uhm
you just gotta look at stuff
and see what it looks like
and draw that

simple

you just gotta draw allot
thats the only way to get better, drawing and improving, someone else's advice rarely works
Quote from: KingDavidWPS you are really immature, RTIL is a nice normal guy and i'm not kissing his ass either - he's earned his title, and that's my opinion. Why the fuck would you join RTIL's forum if you had a problem with him and his society? I thought you left besides, yes you have talent but that doesn't give you the right to be an arrogant prick - i don't even care if you're joking.
Quote from: deadSTARI'm allowed to be a hypocrite, I'm better than you wps.
Quote from: taylorseriously wps and sinister are the most annoying people on the forums next to like yungjazz and mindchamber

every post by wps is elitist shit in all caps and telling people that they suck
Quote from: f0dwps and sinister are gay with all their hateful shit
Quote from: naruto102get the fuck out of here wps we don't like you
QuotePigletsMemories says:
Your art may be good, but you're still a complete, senseless asshole.

wps

#46
May 20, 2008 08:35 PM
ok ok im being a dick


ok just get a sketchbook
and draw everytime you feel like drawing

thats actually just where you got to start with
you got to start on paper, simple

and look, don't listen to anyone saying that you got to study anatomy first, or start with shading first etc. etc. etc.
that doesn't make you draw better
that doesn't make you draw better at all.
Quote from: KingDavidWPS you are really immature, RTIL is a nice normal guy and i'm not kissing his ass either - he's earned his title, and that's my opinion. Why the fuck would you join RTIL's forum if you had a problem with him and his society? I thought you left besides, yes you have talent but that doesn't give you the right to be an arrogant prick - i don't even care if you're joking.
Quote from: deadSTARI'm allowed to be a hypocrite, I'm better than you wps.
Quote from: taylorseriously wps and sinister are the most annoying people on the forums next to like yungjazz and mindchamber

every post by wps is elitist shit in all caps and telling people that they suck
Quote from: f0dwps and sinister are gay with all their hateful shit
Quote from: naruto102get the fuck out of here wps we don't like you
QuotePigletsMemories says:
Your art may be good, but you're still a complete, senseless asshole.

Fuzz

#47
May 21, 2008 12:53 AM
I always thought that anatomy and proportions were important...

Thanks wps. I appreciate the help and that you realized you were being a dick. It's ok tho. some times, everybody's just a big hairy dick.      

ZekeySpaceyLizard

#48
May 21, 2008 01:04 AM
actually WPS is correct


look at things and draw them

still life and drawing from life are the best practice in the world

stop bitching for people to hand you helpful hints on a platter that you think will magically make you able to draw.

here

1.) get a sketchpad or notebook

2.) run around outside

3.) draw people and things you see

4.) if the things you draw suck, analyze WHY they suck, erase them, and try again



and there you are.

and if all else fails and you cant look at your own art objectively to figure out whats wrong with a drawing or sketch, place it here where everyone can shit all over it and tell you whats wrong with it.

then you'll know what NOT to do next time

Fuzz

#49
May 21, 2008 01:04 AM
Quote from: FuzzI always thought that anatomy and proportions were important...

Thanks Zekey. I appreciate the help and that you ae being a dick. It's ok tho. some times, everybody's just a big hairy dick.      

bcube

#50
May 21, 2008 01:06 AM
He wasn't being a dick though

this is thebackalleys

ZekeySpaceyLizard

#51
May 21, 2008 01:07 AM
oh ok. ignore everyone.

he probably doesnt really want to improve
just some shortcuts

go to deviantart to learn those

Fuzz

#52
May 21, 2008 01:55 AM
I'm sorry Zekey. I didn't mean it. I just had a hard night at work. I never want to have kids... at least not with a fat bitch. Anyways...
You guys just don't understand what I'm saying. It's not that I want people to make me better, it's that I need to know WHAT to do before I  practice it.

So my friend was drawing in class today. I liked the way it looked, so I made my own version of it. All I took was the eyes and the way it is silhouetted.

Fuzz

#53
June 5, 2008 04:37 PM
K well I haven't checked here much lately... Busy taking squeef's and Zekey's advice and getting my final project done for flash.
here it is so you can all tell me how much it sucks!   Sorry there's no voice acting(not a voice actor) and shitty sounds(www.findsounds.com).

Heres some shit I already know that you don't have to tell me: It runs slow(12fps) it was required. Walk cycle sucked. shit's weak. And finally, I know it has an awesome 80's ending.

rtil

#54
June 5, 2008 05:59 PM
don't trace bitmap stuff (lightpost)
i would also suggest working in black and white until you learn a little bit about color or at least pick less saturated colors. tbh, i really don't think you should be doing a lot of human-like animation until you strengthen your drawing skills. and while the best way to get better is to get a sketchbook, pencils and go out and draw life, if you don't have any guidance at all except yourself it is rather intimidating. there is nothing wrong with geting advice from those who have been in the field - that's why a lot of them become teachers, to pass on the tricks of the trade so they don't get lost.

a lot of them have written great books on these subjects. for animation, you'd want to get richard williams' animators survival kit. for a kick-start on drawing from life, i would recommend anything by andrew loomis (hard to get ahold of though, many of his books are out of print), or something by george bridgman. bridgman is not the best draftsmen in the world, but - unlike his books - a lot of life drawing books have GREAT illustrations, but don't really teach you anything.

FG_SPace

#55
June 5, 2008 06:41 PM
was that Gish?

Fuzz

#56
June 5, 2008 07:33 PM
rtil, you could be a teacher. believe me, I didn't actually want to do an animation with people, but it was required for the course. The college I'm going to doesn't have any traditional art classes and so I'm not getting any help there. I couldn't afford a sketch pad so I just bought a just pack of copy paper. I've been working on my drawings a lot lately. I'm still having problems translating any of my art using a mouse tho... my actual sketches aren't that terrible.

GRINACE

#57
June 5, 2008 07:39 PM Last Edit: June 5, 2008 07:43 PM by GRINACE
Quote from: FuzzYou think so? cause I'm pretty sure that people have to practice to get good. How can you practice something you don't know? Like me. I know very little about how to draw people and scenery from a perspective. Things like that need to be taught because when I try, everything is out of proportion or at weird angles. It can be taught. I'm not asking for a magic bucket of talent, no matter how cool that would be,

I know how you feel but I did what Squeef did basicly,

[!--quoteo(post=0:date=:name=Squeef)--][div class=\\\'quotetop\\\']QUOTE(Squeef)[/div][div class=\\\'quotemain\\\'][!--quotec--]well I GOT TO WHERE I AM TODAY by getting tips from artists that were better than me, but then i had to practice and practice and practice some more to understand the complexities of the concepts they explained to me.[/quote]

And if you seen my newer stuff. I can say I improved a bit comepared to my older work.

sQueef

#58
June 5, 2008 10:03 PM
Quote from: FuzzBusy taking squeef's and Zekey's advice
this could be a bad idea
Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

bcube

#59
June 5, 2008 10:36 PM Last Edit: June 5, 2008 10:38 PM by BizarreCube
QuoteI couldn't afford a sketch pad so I just bought a just pack of copy paper.

I buy packs of paper too. I don't like sketchbooks ):

this is thebackalleys
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