Things that make you cry

[Yvonne]

http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a25336/seven-earth-like-planets-trappist-1/

[rtil]

http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a25336/seven-earth-like-planets-trappist-1/

"If a person was standing on one of the planet's surface, they could gaze up and potentially see geological features or clouds of neighboring worlds, which would sometimes appear larger than the moon in Earth's sky."

that's some sci-fi movie shit right there

[Stu4U]

i look forward to going on vacation to all seven of them in 3017.

[Bamyasi]

http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a25336/seven-earth-like-planets-trappist-1/

[webm]http://www.thebackalleys.com/dump/files/1530/878Aw8_1443827332298.webm[/webm]

[Jon]

I get kinda of sad when I see people fill the artistic gaps that I feel like I saw before them, but I didnt because I didn't want to try hard enough to learn how to beat them to punch, I guess. It's like they're saying it before me, theyre defining what's inside me, this generation. I think I have that seasonal thing Yvonne was talking about earlier. It feels like a post teen mid life crisis. Whatever it is it's got me learning guitar and writing poetry and working harder than I ever have. I thank and I fear it and want to kill it. Sorry. I hope I can articulate it artistically someday before someone else does. In my heart I know people feel the same.

[ExBerian]

That kind of depression/pain sometimes fuels the best kind of artistic creativity/escapism.

[Bamyasi]

What, might I ask, is this generation defining? It seems like we're too busy commenting on stuff to say anything original. There isn't a single work of fiction or art I feel has even come close to capturing the zeitgeist of the  21st century. The entire millennium is up for grabs.

[ExBerian]

What, might I ask, is this generation defining? It seems like we're too busy commenting on stuff to say anything original. There isn't a single work of fiction or art I feel has even come close to capturing the zeitgeist of the  21st century. The entire millennium is up for grabs.

[Bamyasi]

Aside from that.

[rtil]

we won't know until we're dead

[Jon]

What, might I ask, is this generation defining? It seems like we're too busy commenting on stuff to say anything original. There isn't a single work of fiction or art I feel has even come close to capturing the zeitgeist of the  21st century. The entire millennium is up for grabs.

if thats the case that gives me hope. even if it aint the case thats not a bad mentality to have perhaps.


for what its worth the things ive consumed recently that i feel sum up the current gen it would be garden of delete by oneohtrix and car seat headrest (kinda). maybe these are poor answers cuz theyre kinda niche but they blew my mind

[Bamyasi]

What are those guys defining though? What artistic gaps would you say they're filling? This isn't a rhetorical question.

we won't know until we're dead

I don't know if I agree with that. 2001: A Space Odyssey came out a year before we faked the moon landing you know, Serial Experiments Lain a year before Y2K. We shouldn't deprive ourselves deciding what's important and God save us if it's Undertale.

[Jon]

i think car seat headrest defines what it feels like to grow up 'weird' in the 21st century. nervous, self-glorifyingly shy, downloading music, talking to friends on the internet all night. every time i've heard a contemporary artist try to summarize what it's like to grow up i find it pretty contrived and  condescending ("We are the New Americana" or "We Are Young") and it rarely gets into the specifics of life like car seat does. i think it shows that modern music has the potential to be about current modern things that matter (that aren't necessarily about the rights/oppression of black people, heh

maybe what im trying to say is that there are things about this era that music hasnt fully explored (fetishes, forum discussions, online dating, idk heh) maybe that's a little exciting to me.

i dont really enjoy my own answer personally, i guess i need to think of better answers. sorry. neither of thse artists are really era defining a nirvana sense, i just feel like theyre doing relatively newish things (car seat's modern lyrical focus, for oneohtrix he has this post-electronic dance music aesthetic, he sounds like hes making new genres on his new album alot of the time heh) and i hope people follow them. ok, none of this answer was good. goodbye!

on second thought, i think that death grips would also be an acceptable answer. they're sort of the first 'meme band', which is a pretty modern thing

[Bamyasi]

i think car seat headrest defines what it feels like to grow up 'weird' in the 21st century. nervous, self-glorifyingly shy, downloading music, talking to friends on the internet all night. every time i've heard a contemporary artist try to summarize what it's like to grow up i find it pretty contrived and  condescending ("We are the New Americana" or "We Are Young") and it rarely gets into the specifics of life like car seat does. i think it shows that modern music has the potential to be about current modern things that matter (that aren't necessarily about the rights/oppression of black people, heh

maybe what im trying to say is that there are things about this era that music hasnt fully explored (fetishes, forum discussions, online dating, idk heh) maybe that's a little exciting to me.

Well yes those are definitely things any serious musician/writer/filmmaker worth their salt would be trying to explore. I also lament their virtual absence. Those things are hard to make into narratives though because there's very little element of physicality and meatspace is generally where people have sex and get killed, hence most cyberpunk blends reality with the virtual. There should be a more streamlined approach that more closely resembles contemporary netizenship. A few works I think have gotten close but this is subjective.

i dont really enjoy my own answer personally, i guess i need to think of better answers. sorry. neither of thse artists are really era defining a nirvana sense, i just feel like theyre doing relatively newish things (car seat's modern lyrical focus, for oneohtrix he has this post-electronic dance music aesthetic, he sounds like hes making new genres on his new album alot of the time heh) and i hope people follow them. ok, none of this answer was good. goodbye!

First step to make good art is never apologize (after get good).

on second thought, i think that death grips would also be an acceptable answer. they're sort of the first 'meme band', which is a pretty modern thing

[rtil]

generational meme music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS7QvOX8LVk

[Bamyasi]

Shout out to the real OG meme bands:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRh5HM_Nwes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEysecgCVr0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy-V_9LT5_g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQEmvXFBY78
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Srmk7JYlI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiorncOFpcg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBRtK9tNjOs

Please note Cromagnon is incredibly bad.

[Jon]

i know how cringy it sounds and death grips might not have the most eloquent commentary on the times but in terms of basically being the first meme band (in the well intentioned beloved way not the smash mouth way) that's a pretty new, neat 21st century 2010 thing. i can understand if someone is repulsed by that idea tho

i am writing some songz because i have heard enough times that if you dont like whats out there, you best do something about it boyo.

also " Those things are hard to make into narratives though because there's very little element of physicality and meatspace is generally where people have sex and get killed, hence most cyberpunk blends reality with the virtual. There should be a more streamlined approach that more closely resembles contemporary netizenship. A few works I think have gotten close but this is subjective." i wish you could elaboraate on this and i wish i could pick your brain apart more, mr. yasi

we should find examples of songs about modern internet life shit that arent just 'man memes are funny heh', like we are so behind on articulating internet culture, its really pitiful and i dont know how to blame for it (i guess people think general audiences wouldnt understand or find it too niche? but its what we all do now and who gives a fuck really' ////////////////////////////

i know how cringy it sounds and death grips might not have the most eloquent commentary on the times but in terms of basically being the first meme band (in the well intentioned beloved way not the smash mouth way) that's a pretty new, neat 21st century 2010 thing. i can understand if someone is repulsed by that idea tho

i am writing some songz because i have heard enough times that if you dont like whats out there, you best do something about it boyo.

also " Those things are hard to make into narratives though because there's very little element of physicality and meatspace is generally where people have sex and get killed, hence most cyberpunk blends reality with the virtual. There should be a more streamlined approach that more closely resembles contemporary netizenship. A few works I think have gotten close but this is subjective." i wish you could elaboraate on this and i wish i could pick your brain apart more, mr. yasi

we should find examples of songs about modern internet life shit that arent just 'man memes are funny heh', like we are so behind on articulating internet culture, its really pitiful and i dont know how to blame for it (i guess people think general audiences wouldnt understand or find it too niche? but its what we all do now and who gives a fuck really' ////////////////////////////

bonus thought: im scared of irony.

[Bamyasi]

But honestly how are they the first meme band? What even is a meme band? Do you mean first band largely popularized by /mu/ during its heyday? Do you mean meme band as in "Using the genre it operates in as a reference point (meme) to explore sonic textures and song structures not traditionally associated with it, or to take it to absurdist conclusions," because in that case any of the bands I posted would fill that qualification. If you're defining meme more traditionally then literally every band is a meme band because memes compose the totality of human culture.

Having sex and getting killed are the two most dramatic things that can happen to an individual, and they can't happen online as of yet, hence the reason most web-themed fiction like .hack, SAO, Neuromancer etc. make it a physical space where those things can happen in some form. I think there should be a way to write about the internet without doing this, or making it boring like the alt-lit scene is wont to do. That's all I meant

I think Sweet Trip gets close to sonically representing the internet even if their lyrics aren't about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSRVyQ1gfLM

And most every glitch/microhouse album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lyd9PwXM-A8

And every vaporwave track ever if only because the genre wouldn't exist without it.

I honestly think about what you're talking about every single day and have been since 2012.

[Jon]

i think they're a meme band in the sense theyve been sensationalized due to the weirdness and just like, the pure aggression that they give off with their music. i think the reason they ARE a meme band at all is because of the pure shock value of what they do. and i can't think of a band that's done that since uhhh. nirvana i guess? does that make sense? am i still failing to grab you? that's what i mean. they're the 'internet age meme' band.

im trying to think of things to write about when it comes to the internet and i feel they would be about feely stuff like making friends with someone while trying to imagine what they look like, or something. another one is seeing artists you know and admire making stuff and getting jealous of how they're filling a void youre not trying hard enough to fill. i dont know, like all stuff it has to come from a source of frustration, love, admiration, whatever. and through conversations with other people, probably. i feel like thats an underrepresented source of inspiration. if you have a funny ass conversation with a friend and if it makes you laugh there is probably something there. you just have to try. i feel like this thread is a group diary, it's pretty cool. i hope you're having a good day, bamyasi.

i think its ok to write about the dorkier nichier sides of internet age life if its funny and it comes from a source of desperation. idk, if you wanna write a song about trying to make it as an internet artist or whatever then there are a lot of things you could talk about that wouldnt work as standalone songs imo (like idk using discord or something)

i also had a thought earlier i wonder how long itll take before shitposting becomes common lingo. thats the kind of shit that scares me and maybe those fears of internet culture would work in the context of a song

what if sam hyde becomes a household name we would have seen it from the very beginning

[rtil]

wouldn't a meme band be, well, a band that is better known for a meme than being a band? like songs that became memes and transcended their creators - 'never gonna give you up', 'never come down', 'call me maybe', etc.

i don't listen to nor do i even like death grips with the exception of one song but there's nothing shocking about what they're doing and afaik there's hardly anyone imitating them to the degree or impact nirvana had on the music world.