Who do TBA's American members actually want to be elected

[crackers]

I'm much more scared of Ted Cruz being in power than I am Trump. Trump seems like he'd be a one off, but Cruz seems like a dynasty builder - once he got into power, he'd set the mold for those to follow after. He's intelligent aswell - which makes the fact he's so hideously right-wing even more fearsome

Regardless I'm just a skinny white liberal what do I know

[Gladius]

its me cruz

[Bamyasi]

Yeah, which of the candidates aren't pro-Israel? Ironically Sanders seems to be the least so, at least of the Democrats.

[rtil]

Yeah, which of the candidates aren't pro-Israel? Ironically Sanders seems to be the least so, at least of the Democrats.

if you aren't you can't say anything or you'll make quick enemies your party chairmen and the israel lobby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncbOEoQbOg

[Bamyasi]

Democracy in action.

[rtil]

meanwhile
[webm]https://i.imgur.com/BdjoXsl.webm[/webm]

[slack]

lmfao

[zwimmy]

>2016
>not voting for a marble bust
>mfw

[Philip K Dick]

>2016
>not voting for a marble bust
>mfw

mfw i have to google what mfw means every time someone uses it

[soup]

my feisty wife

[crackers]

my flaccid wiener

[zwimmy]

my fucked world

[Bamyasi]

Okay I'm starting to genuinely think I might vote for Drumpf in the primary, if not the general election.

Everyone on Quora's reason against voting for him was "he's a business man" and "he's only interested in promoting his brand" i.e. he's a politition. I mean what the fuck do they think Shillary is all about? At least he didn't vote for the Iraq war.

I know Trump would definitely say anything to get elected and expand his ego, but my concern with Hillary is that she would do anything for the same end. Trump was a registered Democrat until '09 and the fact that people interpret him as dyed-in-the-wool racist just proves SJWs care more about PC posturing than actual policy. Plus this may sound cynical of me but to we really want our first woman president to be the wife of a former Commander in Chief?

I don't love Bernie Sanders but I'll still probably for him in the primary. Most older Dems I've talked to won't because quote "he couldn't accomplish everything he says he would." If there's such a gridlock then why are we so afraid of Trump doing things? What is Hillary's platform anyway that makes her preferable?

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If it's between Trump and Hillary in the GE my ballot is going to Trump unless someone can convince me otherwise. I'm willing to commit Sudoku if he fucks everything up even more though after acquiring office.

[SrsSam77]

I voted for trump at the primaries the other day because
a) he has the dankest memes and
b) I refused to allow Ted-cruz eater of boogers to take texas in a landslide.

A lot of people try to poke trump full of holes but they don't realize that the other republican candidates except Kasich to an extant are talentless AND soulless hacks that are running for office so lobbyists can give them a shekel enema as long as they put out policies supporting the special interests.

So far trump has taken no big league donations from special interests which in my eyes is enough of a saving grace to give him a chance.
I also highly admire his no bullshit straight talk attitude and verbal brawling skills; while he may not be able to expound on what his policies are at the moment I have full faith that come the general election he'll have gathered enough of the top policy advisors available to put out a truly great nationalist/populist playbook

Also if you want to know WHY trump is so successful:
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/139541975641/the-trump-master-persuader-index-and-reading-list

The author of dilbert who's a trained hypnotist and nlp guy dissects trump's political moves and speech patterns.

[Bamyasi]

Yes his diction makes me wet tbh. Thanks for the link.

[rtil]

the GE will be interesting because i don't believe the GOP base will rally behind Trump and i don't think Sanders voters will turn up for Hillary, either. inversely i don't think GOP voters will vote Hillary out of anger because she's just as hated and Sanders has very very little in common with Trump and almost none of those things are policy related which are important to Sanders voters. there's also the possibility that Hillary is criminally indicted during that time and a new candidate will have to take her place. the DNC will probably pressure Biden to do it. could also bring up some interesting chances for 3rd party candidates but they won't be able to beat Trump.

it's admirable and everything that Trump is self-funded and refuses to take big money but that alone doesn't make him qualified to be president. Trump is a demagogue in the same way that Hillary is, he's just tapping into more of the prejudiced, angry and confused voterbase that's fed up with establishment candidates. blame-shifting is one of the pillars of his success. he's effectively changed the game of politics and the election cycle. but Trump actually being in the oval office, imo, is like a joke taken too far. i hate the RNC/DNC/Koch brothers/lobbyists as much as anyone else, but i'm not giving Trump a vote just to spite them.

but i'd never vote for Hillary, either. i'd never forgive myself for voting for such a low-life liar and a criminal who has her campaign staff and husband running around the country doing her dirty work. for that, she is worse than Trump. but i don't believe in the "lesser of two evils", and so i imagine that when i get my ballot the line for POTUS will probably remain blank.

[Gilthwixt]

I'm just reading this thread now but rtil pretty much nailed it covered a lot of what I wanted to say with a few changes. Bernie seems genuine enough that I'm voting for him in the primaries but I'm not drinking the koolaid that everyone else seems to be. In all likelihood it will be Hilary taking the nomination, and while I dislike her I'll still have to vote for her now that Rand Paul has dropped out of the running.

Even if Bernie took the nomination it's scary to think that the Primary Model predicts Trump winning with near certainty; not many of my friends can believe that Trump has a decent chance of winning. I'm hoping that if he does end up winning he'll do what all businessmen do and hire people more qualified than him as advisers. For example, his proposed policy on guns was surprisingly well put together, so much so that he can't possibly have come up with it on his own. It's the one area that I actually prefer him over Bernie.

This year will be interesting though because you have Gary Johnson taking votes from Libertarians/Moderates and Jill Stein taking votes from disgruntled, ignorant Bernie supporters (assuming Hilary wins the nomination). So honestly who knows how it will turn out, either a repeat of Gore/Nader/Bush or the same but with the Republicans.

[rtil]

i mean if it really comes down to trump or hillary in the white house i'd rather have trump in there. our country will be the laughing stock of the world but i'd rather be morbidly entertained than have to hear "president hillary clinton" for at least 4 years

[SrsSam77]

Even if Bernie took the nomination it's scary to think that the Primary Model predicts Trump winning with near certainty; not many of my friends can believe that Trump has a decent chance of winning. I'm hoping that if he does end up winning he'll do what all businessmen do and hire people more qualified than him as advisers. For example, his proposed policy on guns was surprisingly well put together, so much so that he can't possibly have come up with it on his own. It's the one area that I actually prefer him over Bernie.

This pretty much, while he may know nothing about a topic he will have or build the connections to people that do and will have them draft up a policy for him, I prefer this style of thinking over pushing legislation based off of a candidate's and their parties agenda with little to no outside input.

[Bamyasi]

i mean if it really comes down to trump or hillary in the white house i'd rather have trump in there. our country will be the laughing stock of the world but i'd rather be morbidly entertained than have to hear "president hillary clinton" for at least 4 years

This is exactly how I feel.

If he doesn't get the nomination though I'll probably end up voting for Johnson again.