Who do TBA's American members actually want to be elected

[crackers]

This isn't a poll, because I know you'd all pick Trump

Does socialism even exist in any shape or form in the US, because I swear even your Democrats are more right-wing than our Conservatives (our right wing party)

[Bamyasi]

I honestly don't think it matters much because our political system is so broken and it's become increasingly obvious our entire country is run by a malicious shadow government composed entirely of "people" for whom geopolitics is merely a game of chess.

Sure Bernie Sanders makes a lot of promises but people who so enthusiastically support him don't remember the guy we have now doing the same thing in 2008, albeit with more empty sloganeering, and he turned out to be a warmongering psychopath (or at least representative of warmongering psychopathy). I didn't vote for him in 2012 and I wouldn't vote for his Jewish counterpart now. People equate Bernie's proposed policies with Socialism but he's really just tapping into millennial "entitlement" (as the Boomers call it but it's actually hopelessness born from lack of foresight (debts for meaningless degrees, etc.)). True Socialism could never work here because we aren't homogenized enough.

Hillary Clinton is obviously a criminal but she will probably win the nomination because of the liberal agenda. Trump isn't much better and lies all the time, but at least he's not pretending to be anything but a corrupt businessman, if that makes sense, which is why he appeals to so many conservatives and nihilists. If I had my choice of all the candidates I'd probably pick Rand Paul, but he fell victim to a smear campaign by both arms of the media and I'm surprised he hasn't dropped out yet. Again I think our government is just so beyond saving at this point that the only way to fix it would be through armed insurrection but everyone's too lazy to do that again except for a few misguided rag-tag groups in the west and south and the only support they get from the general population is a lifetime supply of sex toys (I'm serious).

TL;DR: We're completely fucked and I'm sorry we're going down kicking and screaming.

[basketweaver]

crackers where are you from?

[d-floe]

hes from the mythical land of scotland


i would vote for trump because the world needs a little less freedom

[slack]

i will be voting for Bernie Sanders, he is the only obvious choice

[rtil]

Sure Bernie Sanders makes a lot of promises but people who so enthusiastically support him don't remember the guy we have now doing the same thing in 2008, albeit with more empty sloganeering, and he turned out to be a warmongering psychopath (or at least representative of warmongering psychopathy). I didn't vote for him in 2012 and I wouldn't vote for his Jewish counterpart now. People equate Bernie's proposed policies with Socialism but he's really just tapping into millennial "entitlement" (as the Boomers call it but it's actually hopelessness born from lack of foresight (debts for meaningless degrees, etc.)). True Socialism could never work here because we aren't homogenized enough.

bernie sanders' campaign actually reminds me more of ron paul 2008 than obama in the sense that his following had serious delusions of grandeur. ron paul fans would storm every online poll and event and chant his name until eventually the msm was forced to acknowledge his existence. now bernie sanders' campaign is far more successful than ron paul's ever was but at this point 8 years ago ron paul was leading in iowa and i think we all know how that turned out.

sanders is also similar to paul in that they have a very long congressional history that backs up their big talk. obama was not a senator very long and he was obviously easily bought and paid for once he locked up the nomination and quietly agreed to play by the DNC's rules.

i am extremely cynical about politics and federal elections especially so i have not hitched my wagon to any campaign and i have no plans to do so in the future either and will instead watch while america inevitably votes some fucking clown into office because they have "charisma" and said something they liked that one time on tv. i've actually tried campaigning and caucusing in the past and it felt like a complete waste of time. politics shows some of the ugliest sides of humanity and drains you physically, mentally and emotionally. everyone is at eachother's throats, no one respects anyone else's beliefs and people will do anything to undermine supporters of opposing candidates and ideologies to the point where they'll support and actively work towards enacting prohibitive voting laws and manipulative practices like gerrymandering to keep the same political legacies in power. everything has to be black and white and people who think that way drive me insane.

anywayyyyyyyyy i think rand paul and bernie sanders are the only candidates running who seem to actually believe what comes out of their mouths and don't want to play by the establishments rules (and the msm makes it all too obvious). i guess trump doesn't want to do the latter either but he will say anything to get elected and he's not afraid of saying anything either which is part of why people like him. but i think a #nofilter president would be bad for this country, he's an amusing public figure but the leader of a nation? it would make a funny tv show but in reality it would be terrifying at best.

i'd like to see a sanders vs trump race but i think we'll be seeing shillary vs cruz. i hate them both

[Bamyasi]

Yeah you're right about Bernie's campaign being more similar to Ron's (I don't remember the latter too well). It just amazes me that it seems like the same people who fell for Obama's empty promises the hardest are now doing the same for Bernie's (fool me once, etc.). I have no doubt that Bernie would be bought out exactly the same way. I can't remember what comedian made this joke but it went like: it's Obama's first day in office and he's super excited to fulfill all his buzzwords and memes and then someone says "Show him the basement." Maybe Bernie would be different I don't know, but I think the problem is inherent in the system.

Campaigning sounds awful.

gerrymandering

Here's an annoying College Humor video for people who don't know about that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd5rul6EdF0

There's also one on the electoral college that's kind of worth watching too.

[zwimmy]

Americucks will never have Trudeau-kun <3

[SrsSam77]

Americans will never have a man who's campaign for office was based solely on memes, "weed lmao" and piggybacking off of his father's work in office.
Americans will never have a man Who has caused the government to go 6 billion dollars over yearly budget in hisfirst month in office.
Americans will never have a man who pissed off the oil companies in canada causing them to pull out, take jobs with them, and SEVERELY cripple the nation's GDP.
Americans will never have a man who has caused the canadian dollar to lose 14 cents on the american dollar within his first month of office.

Fixed it for you zwimmy bb

[Bamyasi]

Americans will never have a man who's campaign for office was based solely on memes

[Gladius]

This isn't a poll, because I know you'd all pick Trump

u got it

not an american but farage/le pen are my ppl over here in ye olde country

[rtil]

Yeah you're right about Bernie's campaign being more similar to Ron's (I don't remember the latter too well). It just amazes me that it seems like the same people who fell for Obama's empty promises the hardest are now doing the same for Bernie's (fool me once, etc.). I have no doubt that Bernie would be bought out exactly the same way. I can't remember what comedian made this joke but it went like: it's Obama's first day in office and he's super excited to fulfill all his buzzwords and memes and then someone says "Show him the basement." Maybe Bernie would be different I don't know, but I think the problem is inherent in the system.

i think the key difference would be that sanders would actually attempt to carry out his campaign promises but congress would never let him do anything. then after 6 years of gridlock he'd stop caring, get sick of being blamed for everything and agree to some half-baked legislation full of compromises and pork that the lobbyists will approve to make it look like he got something done

and that of course goes back to what you said, the problem is in the system. campaign finance reform would be a great start but the only people who can make it happen are the people who benefit from it not happening.

[Bamyasi]

i think the key difference would be that sanders would actually attempt to carry out his campaign promises but congress would never let him do anything. then after 6 years of gridlock he'd stop caring, get sick of being blamed for everything and agree to some half-baked legislation full of compromises and pork that the lobbyists will approve to make it look like he got something done

Pardon me if I'm wrong, but isn't that more or less what happened with Obama? Wasn't healthcare reform like first on his list but took his entire first term to pass?

and that of course goes back to what you said, the problem is in the system. campaign finance reform would be a great start but the only people who can make it happen are the people who benefit from it not happening.

And this is why we need guns. It's unfortunate but true.

Though it's not like it the patriots who took arms this time would be defeated in anything more than one fell swoop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAGxDWKrjPQ

^This is what happens when you try to get Uncle Sam to stop touching you inappropriately.

[rtil]

i think the key difference would be that sanders would actually attempt to carry out his campaign promises but congress would never let him do anything. then after 6 years of gridlock he'd stop caring, get sick of being blamed for everything and agree to some half-baked legislation full of compromises and pork that the lobbyists will approve to make it look like he got something done

Pardon me if I'm wrong, but isn't that more or less what happened with Obama? Wasn't healthcare reform like first on his list but took his entire first term to pass?

you're not wrong, there's some things that he promised and attempted to get done, but if you listen to senator obama and president obama he sounds like two different people. he backed off on a lot of things once he took office - especially reigning in corporate power.

[valiums]

I Always Vote Vermin

[bd648]

I'm going to have to say bernie mostly just cause i don't have any interest in anybody else winning. I doubt he will be all that effective if the senate and congress continue to be how they currently are but it's better to have an ineffective but well-meaning president than an effective but detrimental one (which considering how the senate is red would most likely be a mainstream republican president)


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[Gladius]

you're not wrong, there's some things that he promised and attempted to get done, but if you listen to senator obama and president obama he sounds like two different people. he backed off on a lot of things once he took office - especially reigning in corporate power.

turned from anti to extremely pro lgbt as well

the sjw in chief

[RichChap]

1. bernie sanders
2. rand paul
3. elon musk

[ExBerian]

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I think america needs to really retract from the rest of the world for a decade and a half or so.
Not as much as we did in like pre/post WWI but something towards it, where we can focus more on whats going on here, not just mother Columbia but the whole of south and north America, rather than trying to protect our assets thousands of miles away across the world. Sure we need to keep ties with those countries to stay a world power, but other than having Gucci Warships and Armani Drones the rest of our demeanor has been trashed.

[Bamyasi]

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I think america needs to really retract from the rest of the world for a decade and a half or so.

This opinion really shouldn't be unpopular because it's the correct one.