Legend of Korra Book 3: Change

[Gilthwixt]

[spoiler]Having watched the episode I think your prediction is a distinct possibility, but I'd be thoroughly disappointed. I thought after Season 2, Bryan and Mike would be done with the whole "suspicious close relative turns out to be irredeemable villain" thing. It would probably destroy any sort of growth Lyn has made by reconciling with her sister and accepting that people can change, because it turns out they can't.

On the other hand, Suyin is something of a "World Leader" figure herself, and doubtless she probably enjoys ruling her own city. Anarchy doesn't really sound all that productive for someone who's interest is in conducting trade and researching new technologies, so considering her partnership with Varrick and the other things mentioned during the group's stay, I see her line about Monarchies being outdated being more of a pro-Capitalist plutocracy or democracy kind of thing. When you really think about it, her character would fit pretty well in an Ayn Rand novel.[/spoiler]

[rtil]

[spoiler]im not one for trying to make big predictions, but after watching this episode, im betting suyin is part of the red lotus as well. finding out that unalaq and aiwei were part of the red lotus too suggests that there might be more members who weren't captured, and that their network might be as big as the white lotus even. particularly because of zaheer's reveal on what the red lotus's goals are, and thinking about su's line about the earth queen to korra, something about how the queen thinks she can do whatever she wants and how monarchy is outdated, and then asking korra what she thinks about it, prompting the same philosophical thought that zaheer provoked in this episode. also other possible hints, like when it turned out that aiwei was a traitor, su didn't seem all that surprised, and then su sending korra and the others off that night secretly, su's anarchistic past, the fact that she traveled the world in exile for a long time, etc[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Having watched the episode I think your prediction is a distinct possibility, but I'd be thoroughly disappointed. I thought after Season 2, Bryan and Mike would be done with the whole "suspicious close relative turns out to be irredeemable villain" thing. It would probably destroy any sort of growth Lyn has made by reconciling with her sister and accepting that people can change, because it turns out they can't.

On the other hand, Suyin is something of a "World Leader" figure herself, and doubtless she probably enjoys ruling her own city. Anarchy doesn't really sound all that productive for someone who's interest is in conducting trade and researching new technologies, so considering her partnership with Varrick and the other things mentioned during the group's stay, I see her line about Monarchies being outdated being more of a pro-Capitalist plutocracy or democracy kind of thing. When you really think about it, her character would fit pretty well in an Ayn Rand novel.[/spoiler]

i'm in the same camp as @Gilthwixt , here. while something like that could happen, imo it would totally ruin the strides season 3 made over the shoddy writing of season 2.
[spoiler]i think Suyin's reaction to learning that Aiwei betrayed her was fitting for her character. remember that she is the opposite of her sister in almost every way - if Lin found out someone betrayed her she'd blow the roof off, while Suyin seemed to not even know how to react besides somber disappointment and an embarrassing feeling of naivete.

and on the subject of the earth queen, so far it doesn't seem like she has any fans besides Bolin's grandma with her framed picture of Dear Leader. and Suyin seems to enjoy being a leader and a champion of entrepreneurs and technology,  which, like @Gilthwixt said, is the exact opposite of Zaheer's way of thinking. Suyin would have to be willing to give up everything she's worked for if she was a true member of the Red Lotus - that, or she would have to be a complete hypocrite.

and lastly, which @Gilthwixt also touched on, is that if all this happened it would totally throw Lin under the bus. she finally has something good happen to her and then she finds out her sister is trying to kidnap and brainwash the avatar? i mean.. it could happen, but it would just be cruel to show that much contempt towards such a beloved character. it doesn't seem like it's in the spirit of the writing team.

and usually, when characters turn out to be bad, we've had some subtle visual hints thrown at us so the audience knows. but Suyin has been cast in a positive light so far. as far as her sending off Team Avatar to capture Aiwei, i again will recall the fact that Lin and Suyin are complete opposites. Lin wants to control Korra and police her every move, so naturally, when Korra wants to leave the city as soon as possible, Lin does everything in her power to keep her there. The second Suyin finds out, she gives Korra what she needs to send her off. This is also right after she learns to let go of her daughter Opal, so i dont' find this very suspicious.[/spoiler]

[Gilthwixt]

This season finale was godlike. I can't even right now. This season in general was so well done it might actually top anything AtLAB did. That might just be hype talking idk, I'll have to think about it a bit more. It's definitely one of the most satisfying things I've watched recently.

[rtil]

i agree actually. while season 3 of ATLA was great, it had a lot of filler in it. they didn't waste any time in book 3. the animation in korra is also overall better than it ever was in ATLA, Mir has matured a lot since then and is capable of much better production. can't wait to see where they take all this in the final chapter, because they're obviously not done with the red lotus yet.

[Gilthwixt]

The only way I can reconcile that is the fact that Korra seasons are about half the length of Airbender seasons, so they don't have time to waste on filler (no need for a recap episode, for example). But beyond that, I'm surprised at how dark they were willing to make this season. I wonder if that had any weight in deciding to take the show off network. I guess if that's what it takes to get a bit more realism in the show then so be it.

[spoiler]We actually saw a hero kill a villain outright for once (twice if you count Suyin's contained explosion). It'll be interesting to see how Mako handles that in the future, something tells me it's not just going to be "in the line of duty" for him. And Korra too, being crippled and all. What if they actually touch on depression and ptsd next season? That'd be crazy, as far as Nick and CN have ever gone. Pigeon Man in Hey Arnold! sort of briefly touched on it but Nick axed the suicide ending, so I wonder what they'll get away with.[/spoiler]

[rtil]

The only way I can reconcile that is the fact that Korra seasons are about half the length of Airbender seasons, so they don't have time to waste on filler (no need for a recap episode, for example). But beyond that, I'm surprised at how dark they were willing to make this season. I wonder if that had any weight in deciding to take the show off network. I guess if that's what it takes to get a bit more realism in the show then so be it.

[spoiler]We actually saw a hero kill a villain outright for once (twice if you count Suyin's contained explosion). It'll be interesting to see how Mako handles that in the future, something tells me it's not just going to be "in the line of duty" for him. And Korra too, being crippled and all. What if they actually touch on depression and ptsd next season? That'd be crazy, as far as Nick and CN have ever gone. Pigeon Man in Hey Arnold! sort of briefly touched on it but Nick axed the suicide ending, so I wonder what they'll get away with.[/spoiler]

it's more realistic to me this way. in this world of bending, think of all the fucked up ways you could kill people, and now it's finally happening. i like when they show the dark side of the avatar universe, it's easier to relate to, and it dispels the myth that ATLA is "for children".

[Gilthwixt]

> June 2013

This motherfucker.

http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/52847674525/we-have-the-best-storyboards-no-one-comes-close?vcs=social_20140826_30476886

[rtil]

i see the resemblance now

[Gilthwixt]

http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/digital-short-legend-of-korra-uploader-special-announcement.html?xid=korranation

What.

[rtil]

it's quite a jump back from their initial release date of january 2015. but i'm not complaining