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rtil

#40
May 5, 2011 04:28 AM Last Edit: May 5, 2011 04:28 AM by rtil cat
my judgement of hip hop in general isn't intended to have any influence on you, it's my personal preference. i don't like music that is egocentric, i think it's disgusting. but no one makes me listen to it, and i know the people that do listen to it like it and i don't care. i just think it's funny that you think you have to defend it. it's not like you made it

funzop

#41
May 5, 2011 04:37 AM
Quote from: rtil catmy judgement of hip hop in general isn't intended to have any influence on you, it's my personal preference. i don't like music that is egocentric, i think it's disgusting. but no one makes me listen to it, and i know the people that do listen to it like it and i don't care.
thank you for sharing your opinion now i know
Quote from: rtil cati just think it's funny that you think you have to defend it. it's not like you made it
this is silly. for one thing, just because i didnt make something doesnt mean i shouldnt defend it. youd defend "why anime is a legitimate art form and should be respected by cartoonists", wouldnt you? but did you create naruto?
i like it and im stating why i like it as opposed to why you dont like it, and im saying that your opinion holds no validity if you are willfully ignorant of what you are judging. id say this about anything, not just rap music.
and i am "defending" it as much as you are "attacking" it. stop exaggerating.

sev

#42
May 5, 2011 04:43 AM
i can't take any of you people and your awful arguments seriously

Necronomitr0n

#43
May 5, 2011 04:44 AM
This thread is gay. its one of those threads i never click because i know it wont be interesting. and i was right, it's not.
<+fawx> im trying to animate a dick coming out of a toaster how do i go on about doing this
<~rtil> well fawx what you would do is delete the fla and do something productive instead
<+ansel> i lure children into my van with candy and then i read them passages from 'the origin of species'
<%ropesnake> billy con ends with billy raping his cat
<+billymonks> FUCK YOU BUG
<~rtil> ya one time i gave this hobo some cat food and he ate it like the animal he is it pleased me

Abnormal

#44
May 5, 2011 04:44 AM
thinking nonzop is making some valid points but um

i don't really want to get into this so um i'm not here

funzop

#45
May 5, 2011 04:47 AM
Quote from: sev cati can't take any of you people and your awful arguments seriously
you are so above all of us it is ridiculous

sev

#46
May 5, 2011 04:48 AM
actually yeah i probably am

rtil

#47
May 5, 2011 04:49 AM
Quote from: nonzopthis is silly. for one thing, just because i didnt make something doesnt mean i shouldnt defend it. youd defend "why anime is a legitimate art form and should be respected by cartoonists", wouldnt you? but did you create naruto?
no, i don't think i'd entertain such a stupid question, it wouldn't be worth the time or effort

Quotei like it and im stating why i like it as opposed to why you dont like it, and im saying that your opinion holds no validity if you are willfully ignorant of what you are judging. id say this about anything, not just rap music.
and i am "defending" it as much as you are "attacking" it. stop exaggerating.
i don't think i'm willfully ignorant of hip hop music. our culture and media shoves it in our faces every day, i've seen and heard a lot of it and i don't like it. sure, some of it is genuine music, but most of it is a hollow commercial product selling an ego and an image.. you can't deny those "artists" are complete tools.

but whether or not you think my opinion holds any validity to you is irrelevant.. it only matters to me. i'm just telling you what i think. i didn't ask you for a rebuttal, you gave me one.

funzop

#48
May 5, 2011 04:50 AM
hold on my neck hurts from lookin up at u

funzop

#49
May 5, 2011 04:58 AM Last Edit: May 5, 2011 05:00 AM by nonzop
Quote from: rtil catno, i don't think i'd entertain such a stupid question, it wouldn't be worth the time or effort
ok so shitty example. but you defend things you care about and like, and one of those things happens to be hip-hop for me.
Quote from: rtil cati don't think i'm willfully ignorant of hip hop music. our culture and media shoves it in our faces every day, i've seen and heard a lot of it and i don't like it. sure, some of it is genuine music, but most of it is a hollow commercial product selling an ego and an image.. you can't deny those "artists" are complete tools.
i cant, those artists are complete tools and the "hip-hop" culture that is force fed to you through the media is disgusting and stupid, and any artist willing to associate themselves with it is usually shameful.
this artist is not one of those artists.
he is pretty anti-commercial and does not want to be churning out the same mediocre "bitches suck dick" kind of thing, and frequently parodies that kind of ignorance and stupidity in interviews and in songs. the group he is part of has been putting all their albums online for free on their tumblr up until this release.
Quote from: rtil catbut whether or not you think my opinion holds any validity to you is irrelevant.. it only matters to me. i'm just telling you what i think. i didn't ask you for a rebuttal, you gave me one.
you came into the thread waving about your opinion, as if you thought it held validity to anyone else, which is how i responded as i did. my fault.

edit: i cant speak english

rtil

#50
May 5, 2011 05:02 AM
Quote from: nonzopi cant, those artists are complete tools and the "hip-hop" culture that is force fed to you through the media is disgusting and stupid, and any artist willing to associate themselves with it are usually shameful.
this artist is not one of those artists.
he is pretty anti-commercial and does not want to be churning out the same mediocre "bitches suck dick" kind of thing, and frequently parodies that kind of ignorance and stupidity in interviews and in songs. the group he is part of has been putting all their albums online for free on their tumblr up until this release.
then good for him!
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Quote from: rtil catbut whether or not you think my opinion holds any validity to you is irrelevant.. it only matters to me. i\\\'m just telling you what i think. i didn\\\'t ask you for a rebuttal, you gave me one.
you came into the thread waving about your opinion, as if you thought it held validity to anyone else, which is how i responded as i did. my fault.
well i did come in here just to wave it around, but as to why i think you are a little misguided

Quote from: nonzop
Quote from: rtil catno, i don\\\'t think i\\\'d entertain such a stupid question, it wouldn\\\'t be worth the time or effort
ok so shitty example. but you defend things you care about and like, and one of those things happens to be hip-hop for me.
eh, yeah i guess. i usually only get defensive about things that i think are actually important, like things that affect people\\\'s lives in a significant way

funzop

#51
May 5, 2011 05:04 AM
ok well im sorry
im glad we have had this discussion i feel like ive learned a lot

anyway SO i am hoping for more music videos for this album
even tho it will be hard to top

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSbZidsgMfw

rtil

#52
May 5, 2011 05:06 AM
he didn't actually eat that did he

funzop

#53
May 5, 2011 05:08 AM
nah you can see he kinda pulls it away at the last second

funzop

#55
May 5, 2011 05:22 AM

Abnormal

#56
May 5, 2011 05:33 AM
Quote from: rtil cat
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Quote from: rtil catbut whether or not you think my opinion holds any validity to you is irrelevant.. it only matters to me. i'm just telling you what i think. i didn't ask you for a rebuttal, you gave me one.
you came into the thread waving about your opinion, as if you thought it held validity to anyone else, which is how i responded as i did. my fault.
well i did come in here just to wave it around, but as to why i think you are a little misguided

um well it's a forum usually people use it to comment on opinions and talk but that's ok

W.A.S.I.M.

#57
May 5, 2011 12:18 PM
im sorry i introduced u 2 odd future nonzop.............................

W.A.S.I.M.

#58
May 5, 2011 03:14 PM Last Edit: May 5, 2011 03:16 PM by W.A.S.I.M.
Quote from: SHADOWCAT2Random Disclaimerrrrrrrr ♫♪♪ ♫♪

I'm not a real expert in this field but to me, hip-hop is a constant balance of amazing sampling along with a lyrical message that isn't too twisted to follow that people can relate to.
Everything else that wasn't up to par with it was called rap
Goblin is different for me however
Rap for me is an instrumental with simple common messages of money, power, respect, swag and dougie spammed throughout the track for hype and the like
However, this is the opposite in terms of it sounding like a mix between reading a poem and simple conversation/thoughts and the music being more just hanging in the background to mildly accompany the words just enough to get the job done.

I think it's a good album
I think he makes me feel what he (they?) want me to feel and think about things from their perspective/see their world
It's like "Here's what I have to say, backed by something you can nod your head to if you feel what I'm sayin'"
I feel like it wasn't meant to be played on the radio like most other stuff of the genre either with its eerie and mysterious vibes that makes you think
Although I have to be in a certain mood to listen to this, it's certainly decent when I am!
Also it doesn't matter what I think

haha real talk my dude

on the 100, im the type of person that listens to all kinds of shit regarding hip hop, i lilke everything in some way. 1 day i could be chillin to some deep, thought out, lyrical song with a mediocre beat and the next day i would most likely listen to something entirely different from the last one: a cheap, egocentric song, with nothing but fillers of brag and boast with a banging beat.

i dont mind that, as long as the beat is dope/banging/or in whatever way entertaining and the message is whatever i will like it
and thats not because i make beats for pleasure myself, its cuz i just dont like it when a rapper can't ride a beat or a rapper just chose a completly fucking wack beat because he didn't had enough money

but back to the topic (even tho it stopped but i gotta speak my mind)

if somebody don't like this shit then that's all good, there is no need to make that person like it,
when you don't like it... you don't like it, doesn't mean you're hating
but when that exact same person doesn't like it and think it's retarded ghetto music AND hasn't even heard any of the shit he is talking about, then thats just straight up fucking gay (rtil)... c'mon son........ c'mon

Quoteeh, yeah i guess. i usually only get defensive about things that i think are actually important, like things that affect people's lives in a significant way
maybe the reason nonzop starts tryna to speak his mind about this is becuz maybe  this might be the type of shit affects nonzop's life

i know for a fact that this type of music genre is affecting my life in alot of ways and i dont give a fuck if ppl look down on that. i love that type of shit, i make that type of shit, i talk about that type of shit and i go out and do that type of shit on a  daily basis basicly and ya know, ive already been to that point where if somebody doesn't like rap and thinks it's GARBAGE and it's not MUSIC then i just think its something not 2 give a fuck about that (or waste my time with), it is what it is, i got my opinion about that and you got yours.

you dont have 2 agree everything ive said but dont be condescending to me  

funzop

#59
May 5, 2011 03:34 PM
Quote from: W.A.S.I.M.im sorry i introduced u 2 odd future nonzop.............................
ha me too

but yeah what im sayin is i understand the bad rep rap (heh) gets and i understand that it may come off as ignorant, and if people think it sucks, thats cool with me, but at least give it a chance before you dismiss it.
for example, ive spoken to chicken and shown him stuff and i know wasim has too and hes given a bunch of rap a listen, and its just not his shit. hes given a reason why he doesnt like it, and given it a chance, and its not his thing. im cool with that.
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