Ron Paul reaches $18 mil in private donations

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Gavin

socialism is MUCH different than communism

if you wanna talk about it we could make a new thread and everything!

chinese fucked it up
im really fucking gay

thanks to sinister for the wonderful avatar

stagbeetle

Quote from: Gavinsocialism is MUCH different than communism

if you wanna talk about it we could make a new thread and everything!

chinese fucked it up
actually communism is a form of socialism

dude i just learned about that shit in social studies tha other day it was great
they call me lucanus cervus

rtil

Quote from: Gavinsocialism is MUCH different than communism

if you wanna talk about it we could make a new thread and everything!

chinese fucked it up
there's not really much i have to say about it except it can never work. a socialist state will always eventually become oppressive (which has been proven in the history of every socialist state), and the idea of distribution of wealth is one of the worst ideas for a form of decentralized government. it restricts freedoms, forcing every citizen in the same socioeconomic class. this creates corruption, greed, and eventually a totalitarian state. the rich rule the poor and do what they wish. as support from the socialist state draws, it inevitably descends. socialist and communist ideologies would only work in a perfect world, and we are far from perfect.

Nadroj0711

people are naturally greedy, so sharing money is not a good concept
also, rtil, i don\\\'t know about you, but I never looked at obama and thought to myself "handsome" but ok

by the way what\\\'s going on in china right now?
'ello gov'na

Animegamer

Ron Paul basically wants to undo everything the Bush administration has done the past 8 years and make this country start following the constitution like its suppose to. This includes removing troops from foreign lands, disolving homeland security and the patriot act and stop the government from over printing money.

Ron Paul is a libritarian a constutionalist, and a traditional old school republican, the kind that would make Frankilin D. Roosevelt proud.

He just knew if he didn't run for the republican nomination he had no chance of getting in office.

trent bortknob

politics are so boring

i can understand why i should care about the country and shit but i don't

Nadroj0711

Quote from: Nadroj0711Mike Huckabee and Fred Thompson are in the NO WAY category
in case anyone else here is against mike huckabee, here's a video for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjYv2YW6azE

also, I just saw a video of Ron Paul speaking. his views on abortion kind of took him down a notch, but not too much seeing as how that doesn't really affect me. I would be saying something about stem cell research here, but I heard that scientists found a way way to get them somewhere else.
'ello gov'na

trent bortknob


Dagolith

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Quote from: Gavinsocialism is MUCH different than communism

if you wanna talk about it we could make a new thread and everything!

chinese fucked it up
there's not really much i have to say about it except it can never work. a socialist state will always eventually become oppressive (which has been proven in the history of every socialist state), and the idea of distribution of wealth is one of the worst ideas for a form of decentralized government. it restricts freedoms, forcing every citizen in the same socioeconomic class. this creates corruption, greed, and eventually a totalitarian state. the rich rule the poor and do what they wish. as support from the socialist state draws, it inevitably descends. socialist and communist ideologies would only work in a perfect world, and we are far from perfect.
i choose to be communist for a lot of reasons, none of which i will explain, beacuse i'm not tying to convince you to be one also. and just because you can point out some problems with it doesn't mean anything about it, the same can be said for all governments, democratic is just a PC way to be a facist dictatorship, they just give you little freedoms so that you wont notice all the big things you're not aloud to do, and the things they do without telling you.

Also, sometimes it takes a little "shut the hell up and do what you told" to get things moving in the right direction.
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zomfgbie

try that website intelligence thing now.
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<+wwchicken> once i walked into the kitchen and there was a sound
<+wwchicken> but i could only hear it when i stood on one spot in the kitchen
<+wwchicken> then i turned off the light
<+wwchicken> and it was gone
<+wwchicken> then i turned the light back on and there it was again
<+wwchicken> so i thought, its an invisible alien
<+wwchicken> but hes scared of the dark

W.A.C.

Quote from: FreekCtry that website intelligence thing now.
It still says elementary school for the reading level.

rtil

Quote from: Nadroj0711people are naturally greedy, so sharing money is not a good concept
also, rtil, i don't know about you, but I never looked at obama and thought to myself "handsome" but ok

by the way what's going on in china right now?
i'm talking about women viewing obama as the most attractive or handsome candidate. a lot of women didn't vote for john kerry because they thought he was less attractive than george bush. and i'm not kidding

Quote from: Animegamerstop the government from over printing money.
that's why he wants to go back to gold standards. people think this is a stupid idea because the federal government prints money. the federal government prints money because it runs out, so it prints more to pay for things. that is the stupidity of it. going back to the gold standard would force the federal government to do what it needs to do to get out of debt. other candidates have watered down plans such as removing benefits for large importers such as china. those would take decades and it would probably be too late by then. it's actually in the constitution to stick to gold standards. printing money is literally unconstitutional.

Quote from: taylorpolitics are so boring

i can understand why i should care about the country and shit but i don't
sounds just like you

Quote from: Nadroj0711
Quote from: Nadroj0711Mike Huckabee and Fred Thompson are in the NO WAY category
in case anyone else here is against mike huckabee, here's a video for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjYv2YW6azE

also, I just saw a video of Ron Paul speaking. his views on abortion kind of took him down a notch, but not too much seeing as how that doesn't really affect me. I would be saying something about stem cell research here, but I heard that scientists found a way way to get them somewhere else.
he was a doctor and has delivered over four thousand babies, so i think you can be sympathetic on his views on abortion. he believes an abortion is right if the woman's life is in danger, but over all the course of his years in medicine, he has never seen that happen. however, his views on abortion should be irrelevant, because he wants to leave that issue up to the state, not the government. if a woman wanted to get an abortion under his rule, she could simply travel to a state that allowed abortions for all women if hers did not. the federal government would have no power to tell the entire nation to live under one abortion law.

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Quote from: rtil
Quote from: Gavinsocialism is MUCH different than communism

if you wanna talk about it we could make a new thread and everything!

chinese fucked it up
there's not really much i have to say about it except it can never work. a socialist state will always eventually become oppressive (which has been proven in the history of every socialist state), and the idea of distribution of wealth is one of the worst ideas for a form of decentralized government. it restricts freedoms, forcing every citizen in the same socioeconomic class. this creates corruption, greed, and eventually a totalitarian state. the rich rule the poor and do what they wish. as support from the socialist state draws, it inevitably descends. socialist and communist ideologies would only work in a perfect world, and we are far from perfect.
i choose to be communist for a lot of reasons, none of which i will explain, beacuse i'm not tying to convince you to be one also. and just because you can point out some problems with it doesn't mean anything about it, the same can be said for all governments, democratic is just a PC way to be a facist dictatorship, they just give you little freedoms so that you wont notice all the big things you're not aloud to do, and the things they do without telling you.

Also, sometimes it takes a little "shut the hell up and do what you told" to get things moving in the right direction.
before the mid-20th century our democracy was functioning the way it was supposed to. i also think you should look up fascism, you can't even spell it right and i don't think you understand what it means - this country is not the democracy it is supposed to be but it is certainly far from a fascist state. the mere fact that we as a people have the power to vote in a leader by majority is enough to crush that statement. the fact you have the freedom to call this country a fascist state would also negate your opinion. but then again i don't even think you live in the United States, so that also makes you biased.

no form of government is perfect, but history has proven that a communist/socialist state cannot function properly due to human nature. a democratic republic thrives so long as power is spread throughout the states like it is supposed to. a communist state by proxy gives power to the rich and subsidizes the people. i'm surprised you'd want to live in a country that strips you of all you are worth and turns your life into a dead-end road of crap wages and food stamps.

Gavin

ok RTIL thats it rtil sometime today im making a socialist topic because stupid assholes like dagolith dont know what they are talking about


socialism is NOT "just shut up and do what youre told" wow god damn that is the stupidest thing ive EVER heard. How can you call yourself a communist even dagolith.
im really fucking gay

thanks to sinister for the wonderful avatar

rtil

well i don't believe that either but i do believe that socialism is a very weak form of government. it would only work with the undying support of the people.

Gavin

im not in the mood today maybe tomorrow but by god you will be provede wrong hegegehegde
im really fucking gay

thanks to sinister for the wonderful avatar

rtil

i look forward to you it
you dirty socialist bastard
these colors don't run bitch

zomfgbie

i am dead

<+wwchicken> once i walked into the kitchen and there was a sound
<+wwchicken> but i could only hear it when i stood on one spot in the kitchen
<+wwchicken> then i turned off the light
<+wwchicken> and it was gone
<+wwchicken> then i turned the light back on and there it was again
<+wwchicken> so i thought, its an invisible alien
<+wwchicken> but hes scared of the dark

rtil

get off my property befo i get out my .22

redmongoose

Quote from: Inaxisdo u have a problem, bastard?!

zomfgbie

i am dead

<+wwchicken> once i walked into the kitchen and there was a sound
<+wwchicken> but i could only hear it when i stood on one spot in the kitchen
<+wwchicken> then i turned off the light
<+wwchicken> and it was gone
<+wwchicken> then i turned the light back on and there it was again
<+wwchicken> so i thought, its an invisible alien
<+wwchicken> but hes scared of the dark

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