Official TBA StarCraft II Thread

[rtil]

stephano-inspired zvp build - if done correctly you will be MAXED OUT in 12 minutes:

15 p
16 ov
16 queen
20 hatch (nat)
21 hatch (3rd)
20 queen
22 ov
31 queen
31 ov
42 ov
44 3x gas
44 ov
54 roach warren + double evo
58 ov
70 queen
70 lair

at this point, get your upgrades (roach speed, +1 attack, carapace, etc), max out on roaches. get your 4th @ 110 supply.

this counters any 2 base allin by protoss, you should also be able to defend your 3rd with queens and lings from any early pressure assuming you have used your extra queen to spread creep and are not supply blocking yourself. even if toss goes air, you have evos for spores and queens for aa defense, and you will have so many roaaches it will not matter. the key is to stomp the 2 base attack and deny a 3rd. there's almost no way you can lose provided you are paying attention to what is going on and respond properly to any pressure.

[sev]

^ why i'm glad i don't play protoss anymore

[rtil]

this is just the current metagame   - this build would probably lose to proxy 2 gate, 4 gate, and some other things

[sev]

EVERYTHING LOSES TO 4GATE

4GATE IS THE ONLY TRUE BUILD

[psi43]

http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/games/supplydepot/ ahahahahhaa

http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/games/blizzkidzz/

http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/games/zergotchi/


gotta love blizzard for their april fools day jokes
the best one so far was their WoW expansion exclusively for the Atari2600

[rtil]

already posted on the general april fools thread noob

[Crabarms]

Tried to play some games with crappy internet. It felt great playing again even though the lag was horrible.

Particular interesting game I had was against a protoss that wen't blink stalker. I was being greedy as fuck and droned up to 60 and just made roaches (was way off from the stephano build). He came with blink stalker and I just added slow lings with roaches and neither of us wanted to engage directly. He blinked into my base and killed an infestation pit and an evolution chamber. Then tried taking out my third. I put a nydus at a place where your opponent would normally put a third because I had a couple lings sitting there and destroyed his second base and then pretty much pushed again with even more roaches.

[rtil]

i wonder if he knew you didnt have ling speed. he probably could have directly engaged you and won

[Crabarms]

Yeah he probably could of if he didn't run away. It was 30 non upgraded roaches vs 20  +1 blink stalkers. I was reinforcing pretty fast though I had 4 bases and was putting down another hatchery. He cut at 40 workers and only had 5 gates and he ran away from his forward pylons. after I force him to retreat to save his base  he eventually gets + 3 but didn't have near enough stalkers to take out 200 supply roaches. He had a single collosi around 18 minute mark.

was kind of funny watching run away from 10 burrowed roaches popping in /out. I think a normal competent protoss would of just went passed them.
He gets detection later to try to blink into my base.

[Gladius]

An alien face-off drawn by mr--jack of Blizzard's art department (imgur's compression is terrible).

[Sinitron]

i forgot how to play this game i've got to get hardcore into it again once HotS is released

[sev]

you must make hellions

[cipher]

I played for around 5 hours yesterday, first time actually laddering in over a month. I did better than I was doing when I stopped, but still not great. I've noticed a new trend amongst zerg players that I'm not too fond of though. It used to be that zerg players would just 10pool (or even 14) and then just stream lings and maybe banelings into your base until somebody lost. While I hated that too, yesterday not a single zerg did that. Instead however 4-5 of the zergs I went against did a 10pool all-in with all their drones. Is this common, or am I just unlucky? I did realize however that if you just 11pool and keep droning until you see enemy lings, you should be able to hold it off no problem. 14pool is usually enough to handle a 10pool, but not so much when there's also 4-8 extra drones in your base.

[Sinitron]

zvz is horrible it makes my gut hurt

[rtil]

i just 14 gas/pool on maps with close rush distances. cuz every time you try to hatch first on those maps you're probably just gonna get all-inned

[cipher]

i just 14 gas/pool on maps with close rush distances. cuz every time you try to hatch first on those maps you're probably just gonna get all-inned

Yeah I rarely hatch first in ZvZ because of this. Although like I was saying, at least for me, I've been having trouble holding off a 10pool all in with 6+ drones and spines. Guess I just need to practice my micro more

[rtil]

i think it has something to do with people being sick of zvz over and over so a lot of people are just all-inning right at tht ebeginning to get it over with quickly

[Crabarms]

Was holding off +1 melee/carapace ling/bling. I wanted to kill his queen early game or his hatch but I split my forces stupidly and didn't accomplish either.  Ending up being a base race because he wen't muta and I just had tunnel roach and lings.


EDIT: Should of remade queen's one I didn't realize blew up. I guess it happens....

http://drop.sc/157679

[Crabarms]

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/4833874/Developer_Update_Heart_of_the_Swarm_Multiplayer-4_11_2012#blog
For more information this is just skimmed stuff I thought was interesting.

Terran - Thor might be kept, but if they keep it might give it a flying spider-mine ability. For TvT they are thinking of  extremely long-ranged terran missile launcher  to make Mech battles more dynamic.
Shredder is scrapped.

Protoss- Replicant is scrapped. Still thinking of mass recall ability from Nexus. Tempest isn't going to be the crazy muta killer. It will be more of long range air and ground siege.

Zerg - Not much has changed. They are keeping Overseers. The viper also has the ability to blind biological units in an area of effect. Blinded units have their range reduced to 1.
Thinking of adding different types of Nydus worms. One that spreads creep and one that attacks buildings.

[Gladius]

Shredder is scrapped.

Replicant is scrapped.

they were a horrid idea from the start and didn't belong in melee

and with luck they'll leave the actual units in the campaign/files so they can be tinkered with anyway