i'm making art site software

[sev]

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[funzop]

this sounds pretty cool i dont think id use it personally though

[rtil]

that's fine, but i'm hoping that as i produce a working demo people who would want to set up a portfolio site would get interested in it

i'm gonna start using this thread as a dev log and put up screenshots and links here

[cipher]

lookin forward to it.


yes that is all I can think of to say.

[iinnkk]

i think i'd actually use something like that
i need a portfolio for a school im trying to get into ^-^

[CoolDrMoney]

i'm calling it VanillaArt for now

I think you should name it something else lol!

[Shida]

i think the only way i can compete with wordpress is to cater to artists specifically. i doubt it will be as easy to install as wordpress, because you'll need to know the username and password to your mysql database, and most people don't know that. but it's easy enough to figure out and is more powerful and secure than storing everything in text files.

Knowing the MySQL stuff isn't a problem for me. I was using Wordpress before they had the nice easy installer, but even that requires that you know the username and password to the MySQL database so that it can automatically make the database and add the tables, blah blah. I just want to be able to edit templates much more easily, or mostly, just be able to have a sidebar on pages that need it. Doing that on Wordpress at the moment requires a level of knowledge of php and wordpress variables that I don't have (but probably should learn at some point).

I will definitely test it out on my computer's own little testing server once it's done though.

[logen]

lmao , i'm calling it VanillaArt for now, unless i find a name i like a lot better

i thought your choice would be artalley

imho, main selling point would be an easy to modify design. most people still don't have a clue about templates and html, and there's barely any
site, except for a few blogs, that let's you do a "drag & drop" design. tho coding that would probably take up quite some time and i doubt you're willing
to go that far

on a different note: a newest / featured art or product box would be nice on the splash page

[Philip K Dick]

i would change over my music portfolio to this if there was an option!

[rtil]

i think the only way i can compete with wordpress is to cater to artists specifically. i doubt it will be as easy to install as wordpress, because you'll need to know the username and password to your mysql database, and most people don't know that. but it's easy enough to figure out and is more powerful and secure than storing everything in text files.

Knowing the MySQL stuff isn't a problem for me. I was using Wordpress before they had the nice easy installer, but even that requires that you know the username and password to the MySQL database so that it can automatically make the database and add the tables, blah blah. I just want to be able to edit templates much more easily, or mostly, just be able to have a sidebar on pages that need it. Doing that on Wordpress at the moment requires a level of knowledge of php and wordpress variables that I don't have (but probably should learn at some point).

I will definitely test it out on my computer's own little testing server once it's done though.

what about editing wordpress templates is difficult to you? i've never used it before so i'm not familiar with the software

lmao , i'm calling it VanillaArt for now, unless i find a name i like a lot better

i thought your choice would be artalley

imho, main selling point would be an easy to modify design. most people still don't have a clue about templates and html, and there's barely any
site, except for a few blogs, that let's you do a "drag & drop" design. tho coding that would probably take up quite some time and i doubt you're willing
to go that far

on a different note: a newest / featured art or product box would be nice on the splash page

my goal is to have a WYSIWYG editor for your layout, and the layout will consist of 4 elements: the background, the header, the links and the content. you will have control over the position of the elements, their colors, images, styles, etc.. but you will also be able to edit the raw code if that is what you want.

this will take a long time to make, and i'm not even sure how capable i am of creating an editor like this, but i'm willing to learn how. things are a lot easier now with jquery.

i would change over my music portfolio to this if there was an option!

until i get all the core features finished i'll consider extending its usability

[Shida]

what about editing wordpress templates is difficult to you? i've never used it before so i'm not familiar with the software

Templates is a bit of a misonomer. The things are called themes and they're split over multiple files. Most (except for the css stylesheet obviously) are php pages that are called up in about 3/4 .php files that act as what people would consider a template. For example, you might have a Main Page Template (mainpage.php) that is for the standard non-dynamic pages on Wordpress, and then a blog page template, single post template etc etc.

Basically its the complexity of the theming system, and the inconsistency between theme coding and the number of files per theme and trying to find out which template you need to go into in order to change some detail across every single page rather than just one. Since there aren't a lot of themes with programmed theme options, if you want to customise you pretty much have some level of php mastery.

To summarise even further: I am currently a dumb user and too lazy/busy to learn wordpress variables and php at the moment so I just want simple/logical themes if I felt the need to edit the code myself. Etc.

[rtil]

alright, that's pretty encouraging, because the way i'm approaching the customizable layout for VanillaArt won't require any knowledge of php.

instead of centering around themes (although the ability to install a theme someone else made would be ideal in the future), it will center around complete control and flexibility over the elements on your page in wysiwyg, but at the same time give you access to the raw html and css if you feel comfortable with it. no knowledge of php would be required.

this is probably limiting the potential of it, but i'm looking to appeal to a very specific audience, and i think i can offer everything an artist would want or need in a portfolio site, which is supposed to be very straightforward.

i'm actually developing it within rmcartoons so that it forces me to think about what is missing. and i think it will also help once i get people on board to be able to test it, which is coming very soon. the splash page and parts of the main/blog page will be ready to test soon.

you'll all be able to test it on a separate part of rmcartoons in which i will set up a public login area.

[Necronomitr0n]

whatever happened to the oekaki?

[rtil]

whatever happened to the oekaki?

that's part of tba and something i don't have time for right now