richard dawkins wants to arrest the pope

Started by psi43, April 16, 2010 10:38 PM

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billy


spite

Quote from: J_Seedwhats going on in this thread
Something about falling reindeer, unicorns and dancing chihuahuas

Isabella

Quote from: Middle-Aged Old-Manany religion other than atheism (which IS a religion it's just not a theistic religion)
Atheism is nothing more than the absence of a belief in any gods (occasionally, specifically the disbelief in particular gods). A religion is composed of doctrines, rules, customs, morals, texts, traditions, holidays, myths, some sort of belief in (and usually worship for) something divine or supernatural. The term atheism has nothing to do with any of those things. To suggest that atheism is a religion is really just nonsense. What would that even mean? Let's live our lives based on the things that god didn't say, because he isn't real? At best a person's atheism has an indirect influence on their morality. For example, something like "It's okay to work on Sunday because it's just like any other day of the week and it doesn't matter that a commandment says I shalt not because that god doesn't exist." The conclusion "it is okay to work on Sunday" doesn't come from "I do not believe in god." Sunday is okay by default. For that matter, saying "atheism is a religion" is like saying "monotheism is a religion." It isn't. It's a very specific and individual beleif about god(s). However, a religion can be atheistic if it has no gods.

Neverminding the semantics, I think you'd find that the overwhelming majority of people that describe themselves as athiests generally mean that they are likewise a-religious and have no beliefs in anything supernatural at all.

creamcorn

well i have realised now that all i have is faith, which is enough for me to believe in god

Mew_User

I don't see why we feel the need to know things like this. Maybe it just doesn't appeal to me, but why do we have to analyze everything? Everyone has their own ideals and aesthetics about beauty and such but why do we feel the need to challenge and assert these ideas against others? Why can't we just go with the flow, you know?

rtil

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personally i think the world would be better off without religion, and i care about the future of the world and mankind. and if i ever had kids (yeah right) i'd want them to live in a world where they didn't have to deal with religion trying to encroach on their freedoms while demanding respect from the modern world for their stone age beliefs and backwards practices.

sharpiedhalfnote

I'm OK with this. I see nothing wrong with his desire to arrest the pope.
But chances he'd ever succeed are, in all honesty, nil.
"Often, when one finds what one truly wants, one is too old to make use of it. Such is life, but that should not discourage one from trying to find it sooner."

trent bortknob

Quote from: BamyasiI don\\\'t see why we feel the need to know things like this. Maybe it just doesn\\\'t appeal to me, but why do we have to analyze everything? Everyone has their own ideals and aesthetics about beauty and such but why do we feel the need to challenge and assert these ideas against others? Why can\\\'t we just go with the flow, you know?
because if we did that with everything we wouldnt have a working society

Quote from: Isabella
Quote from: Middle-Aged Old-Manany religion other than atheism (which IS a religion it\\\'s just not a theistic religion)
Atheism is nothing more than the absence of a belief in any gods (occasionally, specifically the disbelief in particular gods). A religion is composed of doctrines, rules, customs, morals, texts, traditions, holidays, myths, some sort of belief in (and usually worship for) something divine or supernatural. The term atheism has nothing to do with any of those things. To suggest that atheism is a religion is really just nonsense. What would that even mean? Let\\\'s live our lives based on the things that god didn\\\'t say, because he isn\\\'t real? At best a person\\\'s atheism has an indirect influence on their morality. For example, something like "It\\\'s okay to work on Sunday because it\\\'s just like any other day of the week and it doesn\\\'t matter that a commandment says I shalt not because that god doesn\\\'t exist." The conclusion "it is okay to work on Sunday" doesn\\\'t come from "I do not believe in god." Sunday is okay by default. For that matter, saying "atheism is a religion" is like saying "monotheism is a religion." It isn\\\'t. It\\\'s a very specific and individual beleif about god(s). However, a religion can be atheistic if it has no gods.

Neverminding the semantics, I think you\\\'d find that the overwhelming majority of people that describe themselves as athiests generally mean that they are likewise a-religious and have no beliefs in anything supernatural at all.
i suggest you go to the other thread but i\\\'m an atheist and i don\\\'t believe in the supernatural but according to the definition of religion that i\\\'m aware of that is popular among most philosophers, atheism just fits the category of religion because the definition doesn\\\'t entail any belief in the supernatural or higher powers, just the fact that you have some views that make up the way you view the world

please if your\\\'e going to respond to this, do it in the other thread (that\\\'s why i made it)


leone

yoyoyoyoyO what is up !!

emanhattan

this thread went from really bad to decent to really really gay lock it please

Wasim

Moughalab zegt: Wanna keep a secret from niggas, write it down in a book they'll never read it.

zhicago

debate topics are fascinating and fun to read. i dont know why anyone would want them locked.

sevv: btw dude you dropped your wacky-colored paste-on nose here i'll give it back to you

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look at whats happened since i became a mod. has tba gotten any better? not even slightly. for a while ill try not locking threads? you'll see that it wont make tba any gayer.

Kött

Because everything that had to be/ could ever be said has been said and people are apparently too intolerant to think about their own opinions due to arguments by others, questioning or being against their beliefs and because that bear in your sig looks like a fucking moogle from the old snes games without wings and that strange red ball attatched to its head. (Secret of Mana was a good game)
:3

Kött

*member profile pic

What exactly is your problem, J_Seed?
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it does look like a moogle

my bad kott it slipped out

Kött

lmfao... I was halfway done, sending you an angry pm, asking for a reason... The roots of most confilcts probably are overactings and missunderstandings...
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Clock-Ninja

oh my lord, praise the lord. god hates fags

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