The slow evolution of machine translators

Started by Animegamer, October 3, 2008 04:25 PM

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Animegamer

The slow evolution of machine translators

Although web based translation programs seem to still be very primitive and inaccurate I notice that more and more the pay to use downloadable/boxed ones such as Systran are getting insanely good at what they do.

Example 1:

http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:v5IUd...;cd=1&gl=es

La Universidad de México es una organización pública, descentralizada y autónoma, heredera de la tradición universitaria legado de la colonia española.   La Real y Pontificia Universidad de México se fundó  hace 452 años.  Para los mexicanos es la primera universidad en el continente americano.  La UNAM asumió un compromiso institucional con la enseñanza y difusión del español al establecer en la ciudad de México, hace 80 años, una escuela para extranjeros interesados en la cultura, la historia, las formas de organización social y política y en particular en nuestra lengua.  En 1946, se estableció la Escuela Permanente de Extensión en San Antonio.  Actualmente el sistema de enseñanza para extranjeros cuenta con tres escuelas en México, dos en la ciudad capital y otra en Taxco, Guerrero y tres escuelas fuera de México: dos en los Estados Unidos, San Antonio, Texas y Chicago, Ill y otra en Canadá,  Gatineau.

Systran 6 Spanish to English Translation:

The University of Mexico is a public, decentralized and independent, inheriting organization of the bequeathed university tradition of the Spanish colony.   The Real and Pontifical University of Mexico was based 452 years ago.  For the Mexicans it is the first university in the American continent.  The UNAM assumed an institutional commitment with education and diffusion of the Spanish when establishing in the city of Mexico, 80 years ago, a school for foreigners interested in the culture, history, the forms of social and political organization and in particular in our language.  In 1946, the Permanent School of Extension in San Antonio settled down.  At the moment the system of education for foreign account with three schools in Mexico, two in capital the city and another one in Taxco, Guerrero and three schools outside Mexico: two in the United States, San Antonio, Texas and Chicago, Ill and another one in Canada, Gatineau.

Example 2:
http://translation-software-review.toptenr...-1-results.html

El banco mantuvo este viernes sin cambio su política monetaria con una tasa de interés interbancaria a 24 horas en 7.5 por ciento y volvió a advertir de los riesgos inflacionarios y de un crecimiento económico menor al esperado en 2008.

Babylon 7 Spanish to English Translation:

The bank on Friday maintained its monetary policy unchanged, with an interbank interest rate for 24 hours at 7.5 percent, and again warned of the risks of inflation and lower than expected economic growth in 2008.

More tests:

http://translation-software-review.toptenr...-2-results.html

http://translation-software-review.toptenr...-3-results.html

It is very clear that some of these machines are starting to get close to human levels of translation.

Opinion?

sQueef

dude hook me up with some cracks of translator software ill pay you in .swf's??
Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

Animegamer

#2
You can find cracks for systran 6 and others on piratebay

mishkamash

you should try irc sometime it's pretty fun
<lenko> i saw a hedgehog on the way home if i was drunk i would have yelled IM DOCTOR RRRRROBOTNIK and chased it 

sQueef

lets keep talking about pirated software so the forums get assed by powerboard inspection teams
Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

mishkamash

<lenko> i saw a hedgehog on the way home if i was drunk i would have yelled IM DOCTOR RRRRROBOTNIK and chased it 

rtil

#warez-central get your high quality warez here

also it's scary how well these machines translate now they're pretty good for most jobs but still i don't think they'll ever replace a human especially when you start talking about language in cultural context

LordZeebmork

YO G DAWG WASSUP I DONE GOT MA MOFUGGIN BLING YO IMA GO GET ME SOME BITCHES

^ machine translators will only be good when they can translate that

into ubykh
let's all set our phasers on "boring"

rtil

yeah

test machine translators on the ss boards

they will fail

texas


trent bortknob

Quote from: rtilyeah

test machine translators on the ss boards

they will fail
i dont think you can really call the language there english

it seemns like people fuck up the spelling of osme words on purpose to be funny

"wat" "dic"

saying "lmfao" with variations like "lmzao" or "lmgao"

"tah" "teh"

its like anotehr language

not counting the gibberish and lack of carngsio;[\\\'ago

i meant to say "taht" not "tah"


LordZeebmork

Quote from: taylorits like anotehr language

not counting the gibberish and lack of carngsio;['ago
yeah pretty much

first you would have to develop some sort of spell check

then you would have to jkfgl;dsk'gh kjs dic
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then

well it's probably impossible
let's all set our phasers on "boring"