Fox News GOP Debate 1/10/08

[rtil]

i think there are people that are immune to the idea of charisma and i also think it\\\'s more dangerous than it is important. charisma is a mix of stage presense, confidence, charm and wit, amongst other things. it\\\'s hard to define and so i don\\\'t think it really exists. there are people drawn to the most boring and placid people on earth in the same way people are drawn to a rally candidate like barack obama that turns politics into a cheerleading competition.

so, what defines charisma for each individual is different

[MRat]

i think there are people that are immune to the idea of charisma and i also think it's more dangerous than it is important. charisma is a mix of stage presense, confidence, charm and wit, amongst other things. it's hard to define and so i don't think it really exists. there are people drawn to the most boring and placid people on earth in the same way people are drawn to a rally candidate like barack obama that turns politics into a cheerleading competition.

so, what defines charisma for each individual is different

well put.

[W.A.C.]

The only true anti-war candidates i know of are ron paul and dennis kucinich. they are both actively being censored by the media.

Ron Paul actually gets some pretty decent exposure by the media. Dennis Kucinich on the other hand gets barely any exposure. I just donated $20 to Dennis Kucinich around 45 minutes ago. Hopefully that'll help his campaign.

[rtil]

yeah he does, but at the same time he was excluded from a debate last week, his clips are being cut out of last night's re-runs, and there's also a lot of negative media exposure he gets (the whole 'racist' ordeal, which is the most ridiculous smear campaign i've seen this year.)

barack is also trying to paint hillary as a racist, which i think is equally stupid. how cliche of obama.

did you know paul and kucinich are good friends? they both understand a lot about civil liberties

[W.A.C.]

did you know paul and kucinich are good friends?

Yes.

they both understand a lot about civil liberties

Ron Paul even said some nice things about Dennis Kucinich on Leno. Is it legal for a Republican candidate to have a Democratic vice president?

[rtil]

it is completely legal. although since traditionally the republican nominee picks someone from the other candidates of their party it would not please republicans. but who cares. people could switch parties and vote Paul/Kucinich '08. wow that's actually sounds really good now that i think about it

[trent bortknob]

people talk about politics at my school and i ask if they like ron paul and they don't know who he is

pretty much proof that he is censored by the media

[W.A.C.]

it is completely legal. although since traditionally the republican nominee picks someone from the other candidates of their party it would not please republicans. but who cares. people could switch parties and vote Paul/Kucinich '08. wow that's actually sounds really good now that i think about it

According to MSNBC, Ron Paul is Kucinich's first choice for vice president. [LINK] I find that somewhat bizarre since Kucinich at one point said his vice president would have to be both against the war and support universal healthcare.

people talk about politics at my school and i ask if they like ron paul and they don't know who he is

pretty much proof that he is censored by the media

A lot of those people probably don't watch stations like CNN.

[Nadroj0711]

wow the republicans are just awful

they're on youtube if you want to watch them

yeah, but only with clips pertaining to specific candidates
how did you know it would be on
is there a schedule or something

[rtil]

just watch fox news it's bound to be on again sometime today

[MRat]

people at my last school, which was half american, half canadian (it was an international school in the netherlands) all talk about politics a WHOLE lot, and i got shit cuz i was anti bush since before his first election, and supported gore, who though boring was pretty concise and clear in his speaches. now he's turned into a fucking hollywood joke of a man.


I think Kucinich might actually be a better President with Paul as vice, only because people might recognise Kucinich more and would be more likely to follow him as a leader position. too many people, not just america, but world wide, would rather have romney because he "looks" like a president. so balgh.

[W.A.C.]

Dennis Kucinich as president and Ron Paul as vice president would make for an amazing presidency. In this video link, Dennis Kucinich explains why he would consider Ron Paul as his vice president. Dennis brings up some valid points in the video. On an off-topic note, I wonder how much longer Gravel will be in the race. Gravel is throwing a really shitty campaign but he seems so ticked off at the media that I don't think he'll drop out anytime soon.

[rtil]

he\\\'s only on the ballot in 19 states. yikes

i don\\\'t see anything that separates gravel from the dem pack (except he\\\'s not a big money candidate like obama or clinton). as typical with democrats i disagree with him on taxation, healthcare and immigration.  he also doesn\\\'t talk about the economy, which is a huge issue today.unless if he thinks his fair tax plan is a solution to everything

[Nadroj0711]

jesus christ, ron paul is 72 years old?
i had no idea he was that old!

[adamant]

ucfd

[rtil]

jesus christ, ron paul is 72 years old?
i had no idea he was that old!

john mccain is 72 as well

[mishkamash]

they'll get a heart attack if either one of those guys win LMAO

[Nadroj0711]

well they're some spry old men

[W.A.C.]

Gravel is 77 years old.

[rtil]

wow. well he's aged quite well!