Don't see Spectre

[Bamyasi]

James Bond more like Lames Bond/Sames Bond/etc.

Seriously everything that happened in that stupid movie did right when I exspectred it to.

I lost so much reSpect for everyone involved in that trainwreck.

Seriously even the sex scene was predictable. When he wrecktre, I could see it coming a mile away.

See this instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76UjJPmtD3U

I didn't really understand anything that happened in it but at least it was pretty.

[SrsSam77]

I found spectre to be really good, it had a lot of shots and effects that reminded me of the older bond films and the action scenes and car chases were top fucking notch.

Also they totally pulled a mad max when they advertised this as a feminist film, he still fucked two chicks but ended up running off with one of them which I GUESS is him being less of a patriarchy pussy destroying shitlord or something.

[soup]

after we went to see this we went back and rewatched casino royale just to confirm how fucking lame spectre was nothing happened god dammit the car chase was 20 minutes of him talking on the phone i have seriously forgotten everything that happened in the film and i saw it like. a week ago

[Bamyasi]

Yeah the car chase was comically underwhelming. If the protagonist can out-drive someone whilst spewing exposition into his cell phone, I think it's time to rewrite the script.

I found spectre to be really good, it had a lot of shots and effects that reminded me of the older bond films and the action scenes and car chases were top fucking notch.

Also they totally pulled a mad max when they advertised this as a feminist film, he still fucked two chicks but ended up running off with one of them which I GUESS is him being less of a patriarchy pussy destroying shitlord or something.

I was never much of a James Bond fan and I'm told this movie was basically fanservice, so that might explain why I disliked it so much. You have to admit it was kind of predictable though. I'm so sick of Christoph Waltz playing Christoph Waltz (and Javier Bardem playing Anton Chigurh, for that matter).

Anyone who fell for the marketing/thought of this as being a feminist movie needs to be sterilized. On what grounds precisely did they think they could sell that agenda? By the bland, May-December (the first woman Bond shagged would have been a way more appropriate match for Craig, not that I care) love interest having "attitude" (meaning not immediately sleeping with him) and "hating guns" (despite using them on people once or twice if remember)? Did they overlook the fact that not a single female character, barring the one who was already dead, made even one decision of their own accord that was of any consequence whatsoever to the plot?

I'm getting so sick of this brand of pseudo-feminism. I even ended up seeing that godawful Sicario movie somehow, and that was exactly the same, even though it starred a female actor. I guess this kind of sexism is hard to spot for people who can only yell that "big, jiggly anime boobs are oppressing us!" Give me a fucking break.

[BluPhoenix]

it was pretty good. felt more like a compromise between the craig and brosnan movies rather than just a craig movie on its own. the suspension of disbelief plays a bigger factor in some scenes (like driving a plane without wings directly through a conveniently placed barn). it was a lot of fun, definitely a bit more out there, but i felt that was to its credit

certainly not any worse than quantum of solace

When he wrecktre,

[d-floe]

Local man watches several movies, realizes tropes and archetypes are real.

[SrsSam77]

Oh can we talk about the tentacle rape intro for a bit? That set a bar in my mind for the movie that was never met, and I imagine the japanese feel just the same.

[soup]

we were the youngest people in a packed theatre to see it strangely. the old man and his (im assuming) wife next to me were squirming uncomfortably and coughing nervously whenever the dreaded tentacles were on screen.

my calm demeanor possibly said too much, the elderly were surely suspicious.

[crackers]

I thoroughly enjoyed this film, and Fallout 4.

[Bamyasi]

I'm glad you liked it, crackers.

Also yeah the entire opening sequence was hilariously awful.

Local man watches several movies, realizes tropes and archetypes are real.

I'm not complaining about the existence of tropes and archetypes, I'm complaining that we've had the same tropes and archetypes in circulation for 50 years. My family has been working in the industry for as long, so I'd imagine I get a similar reaction that you do whenever you see Sonic recolors on dA or whatever.

I'd say rehashing old ideas is the problem, but I can still watch movies from over 50 years ago and find them more surprising than most of the schlock we get today. It would be fine if we had genuine cinema to balance it out, but that's all being produced in Asia. I'm so sick of the "white man does things" story. My friends asked if I wanted to see the Steve Jobs movie but I told them I'd already seen Spectre and that it was basically the same thing.

Here are the five ingredients Western directors (and a lot of Eastern directors) are all but missing in their work:

• Abstraction (you cannot paint a portrait of the modern world without this. Think movies like 2001: A Space Odyssey.)
• Atmosphere (in many ways a by-product of the next item, gives visual works an uncanny quality without tons of world-building. Think Ringu.)
• Counterpoint (the ever so slight disconnect between sound/music and visuals, story and presentation or more generally, form and content. Think Tonari no Totoro.)
• Synergy (basically a by-product of the previous two concepts working in unison, or the opposite of counterpoint. Every great director was good at this, especially Kubrick and the Japanese masters.)
• Montage (has been bastardized as a merely crude means of time compression. I get the feeling the only reason Moscow school concepts haven't been explored more fully is because we still live with a pre-WWII mentality about Russia.)

I get that maybe producers don't think this recipe would necessarily sell tickets, but it's only because they (perhaps rightfully) believe audiences are afraid of new things. I would give movie-goers a bit more credit, but it seems like the vast majority don't even like being pleasantly surprised.

TL;DR: I wouldn't have any problems with Spectre if the industry was capable of better things.

Hope you've enjoyed my blog.

[d-floe]

remakes make good money im not gonna lie.
thats why we see so many movie and game remakes. Theyre good business.

[Bamyasi]

Yep. Nothing inherently wrong with remakes either, really. A lot of the most acclaimed/important films from the last century were, in fact, remakes (Titanic, Scarface, and Ben-Hur to name three).

My problem is that now we only have remakes and nothing else, even if their not marketed as such.

Also, did anyone else find it suspicious that mass-surveillance was supposedly a motif in this movie, yet none of it's plot mechanics had anything to do with mass-surveillance? If a director/writer wanted to scare us about the imminent police state NWO, wouldn't it have made sense to, I dunno, have even one of your plot mechanics pertain to it? Like, actually show some surveillance footage or something? To give the movie verisimilitude?

Sure they injected James Bond with "Smart Blood™", but that had no further significance to the story aside from showing Q and Moneypenny were more loyal to the alpha male (007) than to his beta superior (M), i.e. it's a MacGuffin.

This is another problem with major blockbusters these days. They pretend to be about something while actual being about almost nothing at all (see also: Iron Man 3 for transhumanism, Jurassic World for genetic engineering and commodification of life, etc.).

[SrsSam77]

Yep. Nothing inherently wrong with remakes either, really. A lot of the most acclaimed/important films from the last century were, in fact, remakes (Titanic, Scarface, and Ben-Hur to name three).

My problem is that now we only have remakes and nothing else, even if their not marketed as such.

Also, did anyone else find it suspicious that mass-surveillance was supposedly a motif in this movie, yet none of it's plot mechanics had anything to do with mass-surveillance? If a director/writer wanted to scare us about the imminent police state NWO, wouldn't it have made sense to, I dunno, have even one of your plot mechanics pertain to it? Like, actually show some surveillance footage or something? To give the movie verisimilitude?

Sure they injected James Bond with "Smart Blood™", but that had no further significance to the story aside from showing Q and Moneypenny were more loyal to the alpha male (007) than to his beta superior (M), i.e. it's a MacGuffin.

This is another problem with major blockbusters these days. They pretend to be about something while actual being about almost nothing at all (see also: Iron Man 3 for transhumanism, Jurassic World for genetic engineering and commodification of life, etc.).

I spat out coke(tm) when they were talking about 9 eyes as if it weren't an actual thing

[MealGin]

Slight bump.

Apparently Radiohead were originally asked to do the theme for this movie, as can be heard here: https://soundcloud.com/radiohead/spectre.
I like this version a lot more than the Sam Smith song.