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[basketweaver]

visual details are a big deal in animated features because they're animated. the art is an important part of telling a good story. if the art sucks, you lose visual impact. that's half of the battle.

and it doesn't help that the eyes are the "key to the soul". eyes are the first thing people tend to look at in a character. in clannad, their eyes are not only abnormally large, but are wilted to the side and extremely far apart. it's unintentionally funny looking to say the least. i think it would be more acceptable if the overall style was more exaggerated and silly (like shin chan or something), but it comes off like a failed attempt at sickening cuteness.

+1. also, Code Geass's art looks like it had an intentional style to it, while Clannad's art just looks kinda bad.

[Kött]

visual details are a big deal in animated features because they're animated. the art is an important part of telling a good story. if the art sucks, you lose visual impact. that's half of the battle.

Are you really convinced that the overall art of this particular show sucks only because you as an individual do not approve of a speciffic detail?
There are plenty of shows utilizing an unconventional and unorthodox style which still manage to deliver a great impact and are critically acclaimed by the masses. Take Kaiji. The style seems almost too childish or weird for the genre and it still conveys a thrilling and dark atmosphere. Does everything have to be stamped with the seal of genericness to deliver a good visual impact?

and it doesn't help that the eyes are the "key to the soul". eyes are the first thing people tend to look at in a character. in clannad, their eyes are not only abnormally large, but are wilted to the side and extremely far apart. it's unintentionally funny looking to say the least. i think it would be more acceptable if the overall style was more exaggerated and silly (like shin chan or something), but it comes off like a failed attempt at sickening cuteness.

Well, exactly! Because Clannad is an adaptation of a Visual Novel that utilizes this particular kind of cuteness and considering the rather mature story and character developments in the later half it simply wouldn't suit the show to disfigure its characters in a comedic manner while the overall theme is so serious.
I didn't even mind the eyes and I got used to the style rather quickly. Until then, just accept it as a failed attempt at sickening cuteness.

[rtil]

if you accept the style as failed then i don't get why you're defending it.  where did you get "good=generic" from my post? my point is, that from an artistic viewpoint, clannad's facial structure just doesn't work. the position of the eyes on the face resemble more of an animal than it does a human. i never said clannad's art specifically sucks, but that for what clannad is attempting to express visually it becomes confusing and hard to take seriously. am i supposed to laugh at their faces? probably not. much like the excuse "it's just my style" doesn't work for bad art, the argument doesn't hold up defending clannad's style. there's something not working there.

[Kött]

I wasn't defending it... I do understand why people get confused or become reluctant to watch the show when they see these little preview pictures with the horribly large-eyed characters on it. It was similar for me. But while the art style that KyoAni managed to adapt quite well wasn't really their smartest move regarding Clannad and Kanon, the adaptation of the separate arcs themselves makes up ten times for that particular flaw and it simply annoys me that so many people don't even give it a chance because of "the eyes". You guys are by no means the first people I have had this discussion with and the first thing I usually do before recommending Clannad or Kanon to anyone is warning them not to be fooled by its appearence/design.

I know that you are not even one of these guys who would be held back from watching a show because of such a detail, but I am well aware that there are others who think differently and that's just a shame considering the overall quality of the show. Clannad has simply achieved the critical response and reputation of a timeless masterpiece and is one of those shows that anyone who considers him or herself a fan of anime should at least have given a try.

[Kött]

PS: I hate overhyping the shit out of it as I just did as I know that it will make you only more critical about the show but it's just one of these animes that have managed to gain a special place in my heart. I am just a biased individual shoving his opinion down your throat, so please bear with me. Nonetheless, I can wholeheartedly recommend it and even though I can't promise that it will have the same emotional effects on you guys that it had on me I can assure you that it's a good watch.

[rtil]

well like i said i'm going to give it a chance, i just have a feeling it will not be my thing. but better to go in with low expectations and be surprised than high ones and be disappointed.

[lasse]

bottom bottom line: clannad is really bad

[BluPhoenix]

quotin myself bcuz i m funny

[lasse]

quotin myself bcuz i m funny

[Lambdanaut]

Clannad sucks; the ending song is BEAUTIFUL.

Literally the only reason to watch the fucking show.

God I just

I'm gonna sob

it's so pure and beautiful

Dango dango dango ;v;

Clannad Ending

[CreepySalad]

I dunno, I liked Clannad. After Story was the sad and best part. I complained about the eyes too at first, but I just got used to them.

[Kött]

Clannad sucks; the ending song is BEAUTIFUL.

Literally the only reason to watch the fucking show.

God I just

I'm gonna sob

it's so pure and beautiful

Dango dango dango ;v;

Clannad Ending

Let me just take a quick guess... either you haven't seen After Story (which is literally where it 'gets good') or you have a pleb tier taste based on shounen action stuff and wear Naruto headbands un public.

The first season is so-so and after finishing it I didn't really think it was a bad show or anything but I was a bit disappointed nonetheless as I didn't get what the hype was all about... but then...

(Ps: The ending is basically a huge analogy for the entire story and this pure and beautiful vibe that you feel when listening to it is basically only a foretaste for After Story. I admit that the first season by far not as good as the second one but I guess most people consider it a single unit after having watched the whole thing.)

I dunno, I liked Clannad. After Story was the sad and best part. I complained about the eyes too at first, but I just got used to them.

I want you to have my children

[Lambdanaut]

either you haven't seen After Story (which is literally where it 'gets good')

Yeah, I haven't. Shouldn't be forced to watch so much bullshit to see the parts that finally 'get good'.

or you have a pleb tier taste based on shounen action stuff and wear Naruto headbands un public.

I hate most anime.

[Kött]

I don't know why this gay swimmer thread turned into a Clannad thread, but btw, is it worth watching Clannad season 1 just for the After Story? 24 episodes is kind of a large time investment.

Well, I would say so.
First of all, while the first season might not nearly be as good as the second one, it is still a nice show and it does a great job on introducing the protagonists. The first season might be filled with a couple of arcs of certain side characters who don't play that much of a significant role in the later parts of the show anymore but while these arcs are happening, there is a lot of development going on between the more important characters as well and I think in order to fully appreciate the second season, it is important for the viewer to develop a certain relationship to these characters as well. In fact, the relatively slow development in the beginning might actually be one of the show's strong points.

Secondly, while you might not realize it from the beginning, there is a kind of golden thread running through the entire story, which starts at the beginning of season one. This golden thread seems kind of hazy and unclear at the beginning and doesn't seem to have a lot of connection to the show at first... but in m opinion it was a very fascinating and interesting way of tying certain loose ends together and it might be confusing if you miss our certain parts of it...

Lastly, After Story starts where Clannad ends and you are to a certain extent expected to know a lot of things about a lot of characters that advances the story in certain ways later on. Only watching After Story would probably feel like starting to watch a show from a totally random point and you might not understand a lot of jokes and twists or the way certain characters act.

For these reasons, I would really recommend you to watch the whole show.

either you haven't seen After Story (which is literally where it 'gets good')

Yeah, I haven't. Shouldn't be forced to watch so much bullshit to see the parts that finally 'get good'.

or you have a pleb tier taste based on shounen action stuff and wear Naruto headbands un public.

I hate most anime.

Ok, I guess we cool then

[rtil]

Shouldn't be forced to watch so much bullshit to see the parts that finally 'get good'.

this i can get on board with. i had enough of this argument when i tried to read Homestuck, got to around "page" 800 and it still sucked, and people told me i still had a couple thousand to go until it "got good". well , i'm sorry, but if it takes that long for something to get good it was never good. i also can't stand a show that starts good but ends up going on forever, which is why i can never get in to something like one piece.

anyways, this is getting way off topic, so here's a free! gif.

[Kött]

I'd like some free girls
Let's continue this discussion in the best thread of the forum



That was terrible, I'm sorry

[rtil]

I'd like some free girls

[Kött]

I just had to think about the fact that it's pretty hard to 'focus' something when you have to ignore the center, when I noticed that those are separate, rearrangable gifs, so I thought that instead of making a dumb joke about masturbation, I should waste considerably more time on delivering you your daily dose of online spaghetti.





Waifu claimed?

[rtil]

well you'll have to compete with haruka, she's already smitten because he's the only one who's pronounced her name right

[Kött]

I went to the lake today after training. I was so full of sweat that my closes were entirely drenched. Arrived there on my bike and due to some problem with the pedals, I slipped and fell over the handlebars, rolling over while the bike was still hooked behind my heels, pushing it over me. When a couple of guys asked me if I was all right, I just said "welcome to jackass" and jumped in the lake with my clothes. I probably didn't even swim more than five mintes... it's pretty fucking hard with your clothes on and kinda weird with everyone still looking at you... anyway, my point is that I'm probably not as free as these guys when I am in the water and in terms of behaviour and appearance I am probably a mix of the negative traits of Johnny Bravo and Watamote.
Do I have a chance?

(Ps: Yes, true story)