fawx's art thread

[shmeckelbutt]

yeah so

hi

i decided to give this another try because i only have maybe a year and i half before college and i still need to get better at drawing
and from what i remember you guys are brutally honest and won't stretch my nuts just for the sake of stretching
i'm here for honest advice/criticism with the occasional compliment

so without further ado, here is some fairly old stuff that i kind of like















regards, an old gay

[sev]

i'm here for honest advice/criticism

your work basically looks like a knock off of people like nogfish, shirt turtle, nathaniel milburn and other old rwd/campnorth people, only you don't really know how to draw

[shmeckelbutt]

i'm here for honest advice/criticism

your work basically looks like a knock off of people like nogfish, shirt turtle, nathaniel milburn and other old rwd/campnorth people, only you don't really know how to draw

you're really predictable
but thanks

[sev]

i thought you asked for honesty?

[rtil]

it looks like your art is going in a lot of different directions, like you see  a style you like so you try to copy it. that's fine but eventually you need to find your own path and probably practice some life drawing and basic draftsmanship. there's lots of tools online for stuff like that

[shmeckelbutt]

i think there's a difference between honesty and throwing the same backwater shit you've been throwing for years because you have some sort of vendetta against me especially considering i haven't really been following any of those artists for over a year or so

but i can't really complain since i expected you to say this anyway so whatever

@rtil yeah ive been practicing more realistic things in my sketchbook and i want to take a life drawing class. ill probably post some of those but i just decided to post older stuff at first. if you have any of those tools onhand that would be greatly appreciated. thanks

[rtil]

http://www.lovecastle.org/draw/
http://www.pixelovely.com/gesture/figuredrawing.php
http://fineart.sk/

[sev]

i think there's a difference between honesty and throwing the same backwater shit you've been throwing for years because you have some sort of vendetta against me especially considering i haven't really been following any of those artists for over a year or so

hahahaha dude we've spoken like twice i'm just fucking with you

generally your stuff just looks really flat and oversimplified, essentially the same things you've been drawing for years, and no, i'm not just being a dick about this part, they do still look exactly like nick and tyler's stuff but at a lower level of understanding. if you stay inside a comfort zone and draw the same thing all the time, you will never get any better. go look at things you like, figure out what kind of stuff you want to do and what kind of artist you want to be, take things you like from each one and try them out yourself, using them to make your art better out of it. otherwise rtil beat me to it, but life drawing is basically the key. do it as much as possible and learn to like it, because if you want to get better you'll be doing it most of the rest of your life. if you struggle with it, look into or ask around for decent artbooks, which can be decent in getting your shit together.

that should be a good start huehuehue

[creamcorn]

i like your drawings, i can tell you had fun drawing them, and they look fun too. also theres definately some talent in there

BUT
-you need to look at more different artists. and draw from life too: dont be just influenced by other peoples drawings and cartoons! try drawing your friends faces for example or make charicatures of peoples' faces or bodies that you think look charicature worthy
-i can tell by your drawings that you just start drawing and then you end up somewhere. in other words theres no plan/idea. lucky accidents have their place, but you should try drawing with a purpose: make up stories with your characters and think up (perhaps unique) poses and expressions for them. sketching first helps.
i used to draw everyone the same way: knees bent 45 degrees, random expression on the face, arms look like J's, flat as shit. after a while you get fucking tired of that shit. make up stories! think of cool new poses and expressions that arent just random! youll be surprised at what you can think of
-drawing in a 'cool' style is fine, but try to draw goofy, funny, dirty, creepy, serious, sexy, beautiful, ugly and cute too. and if youre good try combinations of those things

im guilty of half of this stuff too so i feel a little bit like a hypocrite saying those things (and i was gonna tell you to try some color shit too, which youre probably better at than me ), but i think this is good advice. keep drawing drawing drawing until your hand hurts and then draw some more

[shmeckelbutt]

http://www.lovecastle.org/draw/
http://www.pixelovely.com/gesture/figuredrawing.php
http://fineart.sk/

i've used that second before but thank you!!! i can't wait to use these

i think there's a difference between honesty and throwing the same backwater shit you've been throwing for years because you have some sort of vendetta against me especially considering i haven't really been following any of those artists for over a year or so

hahahaha dude we've spoken like twice i'm just fucking with you

generally your stuff just looks really flat and oversimplified, essentially the same things you've been drawing for years, and no, i'm not just being a dick about this part, they do still look exactly like nick and tyler's stuff but at a lower level of understanding. if you stay inside a comfort zone and draw the same thing all the time, you will never get any better. go look at things you like, figure out what kind of stuff you want to do and what kind of artist you want to be, take things you like from each one and try them out yourself, using them to make your art better out of it. otherwise rtil beat me to it, but life drawing is basically the key. do it as much as possible and learn to like it, because if you want to get better you'll be doing it most of the rest of your life. if you struggle with it, look into or ask around for decent artbooks, which can be decent in getting your shit together.

that should be a good start huehuehue

this is a lot more helpful, thank you u//u

i like your drawings, i can tell you had fun drawing them, and they look fun too. also theres definately some talent in there

BUT
-you need to look at more different artists. and draw from life too: dont be just influenced by other peoples drawings and cartoons! try drawing your friends faces for example or make charicatures of peoples' faces or bodies that you think look charicature worthy
-i can tell by your drawings that you just start drawing and then you end up somewhere. in other words theres no plan/idea. lucky accidents have their place, but you should try drawing with a purpose: make up stories with your characters and think up (perhaps unique) poses and expressions for them. sketching first helps.
i used to draw everyone the same way: knees bent 45 degrees, random expression on the face, arms look like J's, flat as shit. after a while you get fucking tired of that shit. make up stories! think of cool new poses and expressions that arent just random! youll be surprised at what you can think of
-drawing in a 'cool' style is fine, but try to draw goofy, funny, dirty, creepy, serious, sexy, beautiful, ugly and cute too. and if youre good try combinations of those things

im guilty of half of this stuff too so i feel a little bit like a hypocrite saying those things (and i was gonna tell you to try some color shit too, which youre probably better at than me ), but i think this is good advice. keep drawing drawing drawing until your hand hurts and then draw some more

everything about this is true
i guess it's kind of like drawing has become more of a crutch than an aspiration and i feel stuck/too comfortable. that "start drawing" part is so true it hurts. i've wanted to do lots of storytelling stuff but unfortunately i'm not very good with creating characters, universes etc. but yes this is all good good good

anyway!!

this is some stuff i did when i was messing with new colored pencils


some sleep deprived sketches


a drawing of someone i never finished


and some typography doodles


sorry if these photos are either too big or the quality is too low i don't really have a scanner

[sev]

it's good to expand but in your response to rtil you said you've been trying more "realistic" things, but i wanna highlight that and say that it's not really realism you're looking to do, it's more developing a structural understanding of whatever you like drawing. for example, say you want to draw human characters, then understanding human anatomy is important. the components of "styles" like eyes, noses, etc are just an abstraction of reality made up of symbols that to the human brain resemble pieces of an actual human body. unless you actually want to make realism, in which case go bananas. some surprisingly good words on this are here and here.

[iinnkk]

I like the machine and steak typography! But I def think you need to work on your anatomy, and probably various facial expressions. And I think your best bet is trying to get friends to pose for you (but I'm just saying that because I'm cheap and don't want to have to pay for classes)

[Blordow]

not bad man, just keep drawing and eventually a style will evolve and it'll be as easy as taking shits, unless you're constipated, just don't try and force your art, let it flow BRRRRRGFNGBFgfgfgdmmf

[tmk]

if you post some (new) complete pieces, not doodles, it will be easier to give you advice re: composition, color etc. and go beyond the trademark "reconcile your style and intent, more anatomy studies and drawing from life" response

[sev]

^

[shmeckelbutt]

if you post some (new) complete pieces, not doodles, it will be easier to give you advice re: composition, color etc. and go beyond the trademark "reconcile your style and intent, more anatomy studies and drawing from life" response

as far as things that are finished i don't really have much to offer hahah
the last thing i "finished" was this piece i did in january



here are some drawings i did of people at school except for that horny body that had a horrifying face so i tried to block it out with a waffle




i haven't been drawing things from my imagination recently and i've just been drawing things i see. i'm doing this to try and subconsciously get rid of bad habits i have and i want to know if this is a good idea

y/n

[sev]

imo you should use a healthy combination of drawing from observation and then applying it to your work

[tmk]

can't see your school drawings, dunno if it's just me
and yes understanding how to draw from life is essential whether you want to end up drawing hyper-realist chuck close portraits or stylized noodle arm machine pirates

[rtil]

i can't see them either

probably because you tried to hotlink email attachments

[emanhattan]

as always, there is a real feeling of fun in your drawings and i think that even though some of your work is deficient, its "heart" is in the right place, its obvious you want people to be entertained by them. so heres my two cents; you might not believe this as of now but i can guarantee you that out of even a few hours of life drawing, your cartoons will improve because your brain will automatically apply things to them. grab your sketchbook, go out and draw whatever you see, anything using only your observation as reference. then try to redraw this person/object/place using toons/symbols. this might seem trivial but during this process you will realize what parts of reality you are neglecting, and replacing with symbols inside your head.

in other words, if the drawing from life and the drawing from imagination are too similar, then youll know if something is wrong! good luck though