Truth about Occupy Wall Street movement

[trent bortknob]

it'd be nice if what rtil was talking about, how 30 years ago someone could put themselves through college on a minimum wage job, became a reality again. i work a minimum wage job and can barely afford to do anything

[CoolDrMoney]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/29/senate-votes-to-let-military-detain-americans-indefinitely_n_1119473.html

Ill just leave this here. Pray this gets vetoed. Still the fact that so many senators voted yes to this is worrying enough.

TL;DR - Senators voted America to become a police state.

[ZennyPLUS]

I fucking love this country.

[rtil]

[FunnyDog]

we need a cultural zeitgiest *ceiling falls in because of poor economy, cardboard cutouts of justin bieber descend, scattering about the floor and furniture*

[trent bortknob]

Ill just leave this here. Pray this gets vetoed. Still the fact that so many senators voted yes to this is worrying enough.

i'm going to single-handedly derail this topic into a religious debate by saying:

"i could pray that it gets vetoed, or i could actually get off my ass and do something about it."

[redmongoose]

so basically the U.S. govt is finally getting ran out of the middle east for 'accidentally' killing some allied soldiers but are so used to being able to do whatever they want under the guise of protecting national interests that they are redirecting the suspicions towards American citizens and eliminating all of our basic freedoms to keep us obedient to their wishes.

man, I hope I don't get scooped up in a van and sent to guantanamo bay for making this post

[emanhattan]

Who the fuck is giving the goverment all of these insane ideas?
Seriously sometimes I just think theres people who WANT the fucking goverment to enslave them. what part of DONT GIVE THE FUCKING GOVERMENT MORE POWER BECAUSE THEY ARE CRAZY ENOUGH TO DO ANYTHING AND IF THEY CAN USE FORCE THEY WILL do these people not understand

[dinky-dau]

So apparantly, the way the Senate tried to make the law less terrifying was to leave the courts and local law enforcment to decide how detainees should be treated, in order to keep the act from overshadowing existing laws in place to keep the 'police state' situation from happening.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/02/1041911/-National-Defense-Authorization-Act-Detention-of-US-Citizens-Fenstein-Amd-Text-Debate

[ZennyPLUS]

I think a large majority of Congress members are 2012ers if you know what I mean.

[FunnyDog]

info wars dot com

[DrRumack]

there has never been more reasons for a new american revolution than in the last couple years

in the last couple months, even

[trent bortknob]

i kind of like that though. having a common goal and being against a common enemy is something that has unified numerous groups in the past to actually accomplish things. when i read about those kind of scenarios in history class i felt sort of jealous. i wished i could go back to civil rights demonstrations or whatever to be a part of something larger than myself. and i now may have a chance to actually do something like that.

[Gladius]

now you too can not wash for weeks and soil yourself in a tent

[trent bortknob]

all of my dreams are coming true

[ZennyPLUS]

Well, to be part of some revolutionary movement would be interesting, I'm sure, but think if you really were in that time period. You'd probably be an outcast among your community, family and friends for taking up a side with second class folks like blacks, native americans, hispanics and other minority groups. I'm thankful for those who put their valuable time and effort into changing the future so that their fellow neighbors and kids wouldn't have to endure what they went through.

I'm assuming you're a white guy, so my previous statement would be accurate. NOW if I were to be back in that period, fuck that.

[psi43]

i kind of like that though. having a common goal and being against a common enemy is something that has unified numerous groups in the past to actually accomplish things. when i read about those kind of scenarios in history class i felt sort of jealous. i wished i could go back to civil rights demonstrations or whatever to be a part of something larger than myself. and i now may have a chance to actually do something like that.

Well, it didn't work for us Germans and we were basically the best when it comes to that.

[trent bortknob]

Well, to be part of some revolutionary movement would be interesting, I'm sure, but think if you really were in that time period. You'd probably be an outcast among your community, family and friends for taking up a side with second class folks like blacks, native americans, hispanics and other minority groups.

i am already an outcast in my community

[ZennyPLUS]

Well, to be part of some revolutionary movement would be interesting, I'm sure, but think if you really were in that time period. You'd probably be an outcast among your community, family and friends for taking up a side with second class folks like blacks, native americans, hispanics and other minority groups.

i am already an outcast in my community

I'm sorry. I always thought you were an "in" kind of guy.

[trent bortknob]

Well, to be part of some revolutionary movement would be interesting, I'm sure, but think if you really were in that time period. You'd probably be an outcast among your community, family and friends for taking up a side with second class folks like blacks, native americans, hispanics and other minority groups.

i am already an outcast in my community

I'm sorry. I always thought you were an "in" kind of guy.

being an atheist puts me in a smaller margin, along with being pro-gay marriage, but then i'm in an even smaller margin because i'm basically against everything else that exists.