Official TBA StarCraft II Thread

[Sinitron]

uh actually these guys got a ton of shit wrong and the presentation is really messy

for example, they said samir duran 'betrayed' the terran dominion to join the united earth directorate, which is why dugalle thinks of him as a traitor

however duran presented himself as a member of the remnants of the toppled confederacy working to undermine the dominion, which was his given reason for joining the UED

dugalle presumably considered him a traitor due to him not aligning with his fellow terrans and instead rushing to the aid of the 'earthlings' come to conquer the koprulu sector

[psi43]

^I actually played SC1 and SC:bw very recently and when they were talking about that bit of Duran's past, I was wondering "Hm. I guess I understood it wrong in the game or something" but thanks for clarifying that again. That's how I understood it in the game.

I'll be playing through the SC2:WoL campaign again now, cause I haven't done that on my US account yet anyways.

[rtil]

i thought it was actually very well represented, the host was well spoken and the show was well produced. i can't imagine they really got all that much stuff wrong. they didn't get any WoL plot points wrong.

[psi43]

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/9067510/Heart_of_the_Swarm_League_Percentages-3_11_2013
^interesting

[psi43]

okay fuck what I said about the writing before

the writing is quite cool (at least in the first 30 minutes of the game, that's about as far as I am currently) and Kerrigan is hilarious. Like, legitimately funny.

[cipher]

i thought it was actually very well represented, the host was well spoken and the show was well produced. i can't imagine they really got all that much stuff wrong. they didn't get any WoL plot points wrong.

Yeah they obviously put a lot of time into this research, definitely a good watch. Thanks for the link, especially since I last played the sc1 campaigns so long ago

[Sinitron]

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/9067510/Heart_of_the_Swarm_League_Percentages-3_11_2013
^interesting

maybe, but wholly uninteresting to most of us since we are platinum-masters anyway (the ones who do play anyway)

last time i played i made a diamond zerg seethe with unending anger at getting meched to death, then promptly lost to a gold protoss because i tried to mass marines as a macro excercise

[rtil]

it will be good for new players which is all that matters.

overall, hots is super friendly towards newer players and a lot more inviting. also, the interface is 10x less confusing. i'm sure we all remember a few patches ago the maze-like interface of trying to get to ladder, now it's literally two clicks away.

[psi43]

it will be good for new players which is all that matters.

Yeah. Not sure if any of you remember, but it took me about a year to get out of Bronze league. I didn't play a lot but it was round about 30 games, which I won most of. Weirdly enough, getting from Silver to Gold didn't take too many games for me and after that I gave my account to Haustka or whatever his name was.

[Sinitron]

got the CE

it's pretty cool, better than the WoL one in some ways but it lacks the same amount of substance (things like the raynor dogtag)

installing atm

[cipher]

my only complaint about the CE is that it was a real missed opportunity to not call the art book "Art of the Swarm"

[psi43]

[Sinitron]

done and done

blared through it on hard difficulty, just massing roach/queen/ultra and a-moving for the most part while microing kerrigan

the conclusion was as expected, but it made more sense than the leaked ending

for the most part they wrapped up most of the questions in wings of liberty

but i feel they could have handled a certain good doctor somewhat better

i did like how the satellite you can inspect towards the same is the same kind as the one seen in one of the original terran cutscenes in vanilla starcraft though

nice little touch really

[Sinitron]

also the achievements are a lot easier to get than in wings of liberty because you don't have to play on hard difficulty to get them all, so you can take your time in normal to get most of them right then follow up with harder playthroughs

overall it was better than wings of liberty, but i believe this was partially because you didn't have to put up with raynor talking about dumb shit

[psi43]

done and done

blared through it on hard difficulty, just massing roach/queen/ultra and a-moving for the most part while microing kerrigan

the conclusion was as expected, but it made more sense than the leaked ending

for the most part they wrapped up most of the questions in wings of liberty

but i feel they could have handled a certain good doctor somewhat better

i did like how the satellite you can inspect towards the same is the same kind as the one seen in one of the original terran cutscenes in vanilla starcraft though

nice little touch really

I pretty much agree. Towards the end I basically just massed Vile-Roaches with a couple of queens and 3-4 infestors; won without much of a problem. I didn't micro Kerrigan at all, aside from spamming E.

oh and that satellite is also the multiplayer symbol for sc1/bw.

[rtil]

if you guys want to discuss the campaign, don't forget we have spoiler tags and you can do that without worrying about what you can't say

[Sinitron]

[spoiler]the ending was pretty much the same as the 2010 leaked one except with the xel'naga artifact instead of tormented kerrigan clones

also, since jim was apprehended early on they missed a great opportunity to make him come back in tychus' armor[/spoiler]

[psi43]

[spoiler]the ending was pretty much the same as the 2010 leaked one except with the xel'naga artifact instead of tormented kerrigan clones

also, since jim was apprehended early on they missed a great opportunity to make him come back in tychus' armor[/spoiler]

Heavy spoilers so if you haven't completely finished the campaign, don't read:
[spoiler]I haven't seen what you're talking about, but I am quite satisfied with the ending. When I saw the vengence trailer I thought that Kerrigan would be ungrateful and just regain her Zerg powers for revenge, when in the campaign it's mainly fueled by her thinking that Raynor died. That took me off guard immensely btw, that "Jim Raynor is dead" thing. Glad to see they didn't pull through with that, though. [/spoiler]

[Sinitron]

[spoiler]when jim is announced dead, they show his armor with a bullet through the visor - how would he get it back for the final mission? it would just be cool if he showed up in tychus' armor using it as a substitute since it's more likely the raiders would actually have access to it, with a little comment about it or something to top it off

also they were like YEAH WE'RE GONNA TOUCH ON SARAH/JIM'S RELATIONSHIP AND FENIX AND STUFF before - but it turned out to just be that one cinematic where they busted him from jail[/spoiler]

[psi43]

[spoiler]when jim is announced dead, they show his armor with a bullet through the visor - how would he get it back for the final mission? it would just be cool if he showed up in tychus' armor using it as a substitute since it's more likely the raiders would actually have access to it, with a little comment about it or something to top it off

also they were like YEAH WE'RE GONNA TOUCH ON SARAH/JIM'S RELATIONSHIP AND FENIX AND STUFF before - but it turned out to just be that one cinematic where they busted him from jail[/spoiler]

[spoiler]The Kerrigan/Raynor thing they handled well imo, but the entire game was basically about those two + Mengsk. There was no protoss in there whatsoever (or at least none of importance, aside from a very brief cameo of Zeratul). WoL was a lot more broad imo and it's sad that they didn't try to apply that to some extend to HotS. HotS was a lot more narrow, story-wise.
Also I'm pretty sure the Raynor suit with the bullet through it was an artwork for the newschannel and not a photograph. At least that was exactly what I thought when I saw it. [/spoiler]