Spiral Knights

Started by sev, June 21, 2011 08:27 PM

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sev

this game is extremely fun, visually appealing and free. if you want to get really ahead in the game you generally have to either deal with the day-to-day process or put money into it, but it's still probably one of the best MMO/hacknslash games i've ever played. check it out here






pros:
- very pretty; attractive graphics, cute characters and awesome npcs
- has that sort of "party raid" feel to it, where you can get in a group and jump into an elevator and go fuck shit up in a dungeon whenever you want
- has guilds
- killing everything feels really crunchy and enjoyable
- conceptually simple with no boring dumb sidequests or overcomplicated system
- once you're on the proper alchemic path, given the items you're using, pretty much everything you can do in the game is constructive
- very non-grindy with tons of items and miscellaneous cool shit to quest for

cons:
- everything in the game pretty much runs on energy, which is kind of a dick in every players collective shoe because you can only get about 100 units of non-stackable energy every 24 hours. in order to exceed this painfully small (as every level takes about 10 energy from you) limit, you can purchase energy for actual money, or do the day to day grind and spend about an entire quests' worth of in-game currency to buy a measly additional 100 units.
- there is no upgrade to the in-game mist tank, which is used to store the 100 energy you get on a day-to-day basis. i think if it was upgradeable to store more than 100 per day, that would be really useful and badass


W.A.S.I.M.

yo im a big fan of games that have knights in it (no bs)

this game looks good ill definatly try and get this


Crabarms

I really hate micro transactions in games. Tried it today wasn't too bad but I notice that some of the recipe crap requires crystal energy(which I believe costs money) and I guess people can sell those for crowns(the games currency) so its probably not too bad for people who refuse to pay to find enough in game stuff to trade for in game time and I guess it also beats gold farmers hacking accounts for fake currency in return for real money.

Looks alright haven't really seen a whole lot or what kind of cool things are in it. But it does just seem like a collection game so far and doubt I will get too in to it.

MarcK

Quote from: sev- everything in the game pretty much runs on energy, which is kind of a dick in every players collective shoe because you can only get about 100 units of non-stackable energy every 24 hours. in order to exceed this painfully small (as every level takes about 10 energy from you) limit, you can purchase energy for actual money, or do the day to day grind and spend about an entire quests' worth of in-game currency to buy a measly additional 100 units.
this is the only thing stopping me from playing. I like it a lot but this is too much of a con for me to play.

Getting tier 2 weapons costs half of your day's potential playing. i dont see sense in that

sev

well if you could just get top tier weaponry instantly without coughing up some cash, the game would be ridiculously easy and you could be overpowered very fast like in terraria. a few days of playing that and it already sort of loses its charm because nothing's super limitless and you can have the best armor in the game in a few days.

tier 2 armor, though, doesn't cost half of your day's potential playing. everything tier 2 is fairly inexpensive.

but yes i can see why energy would be a turnoff. it doesn't allow you the same grindability as other mmo's, which to some works out well, and to others, makes it a less attractive investment of time.


MarcK

yeah I'll play it if I can do it with some friends once in a while as the game mechanic wont allow grinding. I can see reasons why theyd do that but it sorta turns me off of it. If I like a good game I like to play a lot of it.

Necronomitr0n

i'd like to play this game but they decided to make it have issues with my specific make and model of [spoiler]wireless[/spoiler] router

huehuehuehuehue
<+fawx> im trying to animate a dick coming out of a toaster how do i go on about doing this
<~rtil> well fawx what you would do is delete the fla and do something productive instead

<+ansel> i lure children into my van with candy and then i read them passages from 'the origin of species'
<%ropesnake> billy con ends with billy raping his cat
<+billymonks> FUCK YOU BUG

<~rtil> ya one time i gave this hobo some cat food and he ate it like the animal he is it pleased me

sev

aww, that sucks. what kind of router is it


rtil

i heard it's basically any model of wrt54g

Necronomitr0n

<+fawx> im trying to animate a dick coming out of a toaster how do i go on about doing this
<~rtil> well fawx what you would do is delete the fla and do something productive instead

<+ansel> i lure children into my van with candy and then i read them passages from 'the origin of species'
<%ropesnake> billy con ends with billy raping his cat
<+billymonks> FUCK YOU BUG

<~rtil> ya one time i gave this hobo some cat food and he ate it like the animal he is it pleased me

spite

I have that router but I can play it
though I'm wired to the router and not using wireless

Sinitron

play champions online instead it's the same kind of f2p crap but no time limites and you can make cool characters

Taokaka

#12
champions sucks because you can't have a wide variety of skills like when it was pay to play you have to pick a skill set and pay for the cool ones

spiral knights also sucks because LOL ENERGY

also

Quote from: sev- very non-grindy with tons of items and miscellaneous cool shit to quest for

have you ever tried crafting in this game or what

it's a grind to get materials and it costs AT LEAST 50 fucking energy to make ANYTHING

highest energy cost ive seen to craft was a whopping 800

sev

Quote from: Taokakahave you ever tried crafting in this game or what

it's a grind to get materials and it costs AT LEAST 50 fucking energy to make ANYTHING

highest energy cost ive seen to craft was a whopping 800


Quote from: sevcons:
- everything in the game pretty much runs on energy, which is kind of a dick in every players collective shoe because you can only get about 100 units of non-stackable energy every 24 hours. in order to exceed this painfully small (as every level takes about 10 energy from you) limit, you can purchase energy for actual money, or do the day to day grind and spend about an entire quests' worth of in-game currency to buy a measly additional 100 units.

Quote from: sevbut yes i can see why energy would be a turnoff. it doesn't allow you the same grindability as other mmo's, which to some works out well, and to others, makes it a less attractive investment of time.


sev

i made a minor starting guide for anyone who wants to play this btw:

here are all the weapons i recommend people start with if any of you start playing in order to keep your game constructive and give you something to strive for and not hit any dead ends with wasted money. 2STAR items on this list are preferable, as they are much cheaper and easier to alchemize.

Swords
**Calibur - Standard 3 hit-combo sword with a knockback combo finisher and an AOE charge attack
**Brandish - More varied alternative to the Calibur. Same stats all-around, but different attacks
**Cutter - The speedy sword with 5 attacks in a combo instead of 3
**Flourish - A saber-style weapon that operates like fencing, with thrusting and jabbing movements
**Snarble Barb - Special boss weapon with medium speed and piercing power
***Sealed Sword - Evil high-tier bastard sword. Not as recommended

(these ones only go up to 4STAR, which can still get you into tier 3 levels)
**Troika - "Standard" bastard sword, pretty much only prevalent in strength
**Spur - A blunt axe-like weapon that shoots projectiles on charge

Guns
**Blaster - Standard handgun that works similarly to the Calibur, only in gun form
**Autogun - The game's automatic firearm, with two very distinctly different upgrades
**Alchemer - A basic elemental weapon that comes in five varieties
***Antigua - The game's revolver pistol, allowing six controlled shots
*** Magnus - The shotgun of spiral knights, allowing two powerful shots that can Stun

Defense
**Cobalt
**Jelly
**Magic
**Skelly
**Spiral Demo
**Spiral Plates
**Wolver
***Angelic
***Chroma
***Drake Scale
***Gunslinger

i also recommend taking a look at the 5STAR stuff on the wiki to see what you want in the end and how the items you get early can be turned into them later

there are also bombs but i haven't tried those out yet!


Taokaka

DO NOT CRAFT AN AUTOGUN it forces you to stay still while moving and isn't worth it

sev

Quote from: Taokakait forces you to stay still while moving

what


Taokaka


Necronomitr0n

Quote from: systechi'd like to play this game but they decided to make it have issues with my specific make and model of [spoiler]wireless[/spoiler] router
so they patched this issue recently and i can play now

anddd i'm not quite sure what to do now
<+fawx> im trying to animate a dick coming out of a toaster how do i go on about doing this
<~rtil> well fawx what you would do is delete the fla and do something productive instead

<+ansel> i lure children into my van with candy and then i read them passages from 'the origin of species'
<%ropesnake> billy con ends with billy raping his cat
<+billymonks> FUCK YOU BUG

<~rtil> ya one time i gave this hobo some cat food and he ate it like the animal he is it pleased me

Sinitron

its a shitty game just click around until something happens