blade runner 2049

[rtil]

can someone go see this movie before me and tell me if the critics are just memeing or not i refuse to believe this movie isn't horrible

[Stu4U]

im gonna watch it this weekend.

things i want to see:

- a glimpse of what the off world colonies are like.
- gosling's character showing genuine emotions and not getting beat up like a little bitch like how ford did while confronting the replicants.
- more props less cgi

things i dont want to see but might happen anyway:

-politics of this day and age to influence how the film is written.
-special effects/props that look nothing like the original blade runner world.. similar to what happened with gits.
-deckard being a replicant
-a cgi spinner chase scene

[rtil]

i agree with everything except that

not getting beat up like a little bitch like how ford did while confronting the replicants.

deckard getting bested by batty had to happen or the climax of the film and the overarching narrative of his character wouldn't have had any impact or wouldn't even have been able to happen

[Stu4U]

oh yea of course.

but its just that 2/3 other replicants got to beat him up to near death before he gets saved by someone else intervening (crowd of girls potentially witnessing zora murder someone / rachel shoots leon). i understand replicants are stronger than humans but you would think that blade runners are trained specifically to take care of things like this. call me picky but at least have him be able to kill 2/4 replicants on his own.

[rtil]

he killed zhora and pris, two of the four replicants. it's true that he would have died if rachael didn't kill leon and roy could have obviously let him die.

deckard was also retired when bryant asked him to do the job - idk if we know how long he was retired, it's true that he says he was the best blade runner, but it's possible that he's past his prime or hasn't hunted down a replicant in a while. all the replicants he was assigned to kill were also nexus-6 replicants, designed much stronger and more agile than previous models because of the work they were required to do.

and of course it's a movie and if deckard kills them all with relative ease then the movie lacks tension

[Yvonne]

Tension's going to be jam-packed with Gosling's angst and silence shots. And environment music score-accompanied shots.

You's go kill 2/4 replicants on your own.

Can't wait. They've played with politics back then, and it would make sense for this one to cater to the one now, at least in partial.

[rtil]

i don't particularly care for gosling or leto but maybe they can change my mind

[Stu4U]

- a glimpse of what the off world colonies are like.

[spoiler] instead of showing the off world colonies they expand on other things like what things are like outside the mega cities which is equally as interesting imo. however they do talk about the war of calantha quite alot and i appreciate that.[/spoiler]

- gosling's character showing genuine emotions.

i was sort of predicting this since i saw the first trailer:
[spoiler]gosling's character is a replicant. now that doesn't mean he should be devoid of emotions because he is a replicant. he has his own arc and story conflict with what he originally thought about himself, not just a rehash of the original like every other reboot has done. and overall he did a good job expressing what this replicant-blade runner who hunted down his own kind was going through throughout the film.[/spoiler]

- more props less cgi
-special effects/props that look nothing like the original blade runner world.

[spoiler]there was more cgi than props, however i understand the use of cgi in certain areas to establish things and it was really well done. the props were still great but the cg was surprisingly better. and as for how the world looked, it was very believable as what the blade runner world would look like 30 years in the future.[/spoiler]

-politics of this day and age to influence how the film is written.

[spoiler]the themes in the film were actually pretty relevant but the topics were in all the right places. gosling's girlfriend was my favorite example of that.[/spoiler]

-deckard being a replicant

[spoiler]they actually left that inconspicuous. there were parts in the film where they kinda clue you in about it but never confirmed or de-confirmed it. in fact i think that they actually did a better job about that thought than the original.[/spoiler]

-a cgi spinner chase scene

[spoiler]there was a scene at very end that involved spinners, but the spinners were not the focus of that scene at all. if you saw the movie youd know which scene i was talking about. its better to just see it for yourself.[/spoiler]

overall it was great. i absolutely recommend watching it in theaters, especially for the soundtrack and visuals.

strangely enough my theater was only half full. and one of my friends who works at another theater in maine says that most of the showings including imax barely got filled up at all. so theres a high chance it'll bomb on sales but will become a cult classic much like the original. more people might be interested to see it through word of mouth while its still in theaters but it probably wouldnt make a huge impact.

it also makes me appreciate these three shorts a bit more knowing that they actually do help explain some events that happened between the original and 2049.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMP1YpQSGhQ

[Yvonne]

Maybe they'll wait on half-price Tuesday discounts. Or they'll do the normal thing and watch it later. When they can squeeze in time to. Discounts on tickets. That's the dream.

[Bamyasi]

Didn't like it.

[Jon]

i liked the GIRL WHOM COULD MAKE THE DREAMS

[cipher]

i still haven't seen it and I feel bad about it. i don't care too much in particular about the universe, but i feel a need to try and support films that actually try new things, good or not.

although it seems its still playing here somehow, so maybe this weekend

[Bamyasi]

i feel a need to try and support films that actually try new things

Try a different movie tbh.

[Stu4U]

Didn't like it.

i feel a need to try and support films that actually try new things

Try a different movie tbh.

y u no like movie bam

[Bamyasi]

Various whiny reasons but mostly I thought the storytelling was less than brilliant, and the writers didn't seem to know which of their ideas were the most interesting.

Luv was a great character though and I wish she'd gotten more screentime or at least a better [spoiler]death.[/spoiler] Honestly she would have been a suitable love interest. On that note there was far less sexuality in this one compared to the first, but more violence. Unlike in the first I wasn't sure how these things were meant to make me feel, especially the scene where the Goose was strangling [spoiler]Luv.[/spoiler]

I'd still recommend seeing it over probably anything else in theaters right now though (Martin McDonagh's new movie included). I think you nailed the reasons to see it in your post.