Things that make you cry

[Jon]

Looks like death grips isn't as memetacular as I hope, although there are songs by them that are kinda memey (that takyon song). I would still argue that they're doing something unique and special during this era, though. Glitchy songs about technology and government distrust are relevant to me but i guess theyre not nirvana level. Maybe someday but I wonder if they're too extreme for mainstram. Some other artist is more likely to water their style down and popularize it. Is there any music you find yourself shocked by

[rtil]

i've never really paid attention to death grips lyrics so i'll have to take your word for it. nirvana was the epicenter of grunge, a genre and counterculture that spread not unlike a meme from seattle in the 90's. it met all the qualifications of memetics before the term was ever uttered in the context we use it in today. death grips probably isn't as digestible to your average person as nirvana is or was in most respects so i don't think the same thing could happen with them, but their music certainly is different in that it mixes two genres that generally don't mix.

the only thing that's ever shocked me is that people would willingly go to concerts where they would probably be injured - namely HANATARASH's early shows in the 80's that centered around mixing destruction with live music, which included things like chainsaws, smashing walls and throwing debris and miscellaneous shit into the audience. of course this is an outlier, your average injury at a concert involves getting your shit pushed in in a moshpit or something. and while i don't find those shocking i do find them kind of stupid. i never liked them personally.

[Bamyasi]

http://u.nya.is/tdwffj.mp3

[SrsSam77]

did someone say D E T H  G R O P S?

[SPOILER]NOIDED[/SPOILER]

[Jon]

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[spite]

Cool thread

don't listen to this unless you want to feel terrible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxxRIEsHFHc

[Jon]

that guy has a way with words. weirdly soothing. stunning. hope he has some audiobooks.

[Bamyasi]

Here's some real meme music so it's related but it also makes me cry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4feUSTS21-8

[SrsSam77]

He's right tho

[MaxCady]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF6rUf4QwUk

Gotta be my favorite Burzum album. You can really hear Varg's presence in this one.

[Bamyasi]

Imagine making indie shmups and SRPGs and having this as your opinion.

Imagine how stupid you would be.

[soup]

rami continues to disappoint me

[SrsSam77]

How does it feel then bam-o

also I need someone to convince me not to buy nier androidal-ass-o-mata

[rtil]

i'm glad i don't know who this person is

please don't enlighten me

[Bamyasi]

Since you asked he's the money guy for a Dutch indie studio that makes games soup likes.

The normie coverage/reactions to P5 have been generally tear inducing.

[BluPhoenix]

this is unbelievable i meet with this man named morpheus who i have never met before and he asks me which of these two pills if i take the blue one i wake up in my bed and believe whatever i want but if i take red then he would show me how deep the rabbit hole goes, naturally i chose the blue pill because i like sleep but then i wake up in my bed wtf! i wanted to be flushed down the toilet of the real but this game didnt colour-code my exact words or emotions this is all morpheus' fault

[rtil]

Since you asked he's the money guy for a Dutch indie studio that makes games soup likes.

disgusting

[Bamyasi]

http://thespinoff.co.nz/games/12-04-2017/the-jrpg-is-dead-long-live-the-jrpg/

Cut to 20 years later and the JRPG is no longer really a thing. Final Fantasy XV, the game intended to save the once titanic Final Fantasy franchise, skewed so far towards the open world and side-quest driven tropes that litter Western RPGs that it was more Dynasty Warriors than it was Final Fantasy. The things that made JRPGs special, the things that made the genre stand out like the Lynchian design or the almost Korean soap opera tonal shifts, were nowhere to be seen. Final Fantasy XV seemed to announce that the JRPG was, if not dead, irreparably changed.

From the moment the game begins, you feel like you're settling into something iconic. It's like Aerith walking out of the alleyway in Final Fantasy VII, the blitzball game in Final Fantasy X or hell, any Final Fantasy opening. You're thrown into an anime cutscene, and then you're escaping across chandeliers in casinos. The lighting wants to give you a seizure, the music is Engrish jazz and the design choices are insane. Persona 5 announces. I have arrived. I am important.

There's a lot of gameplay elements to cover in Persona 5, like the fact that hanging out with people in the game powers you up in battle or that you collect monsters (the titular Personas) like Pokemon and then cut off their heads in a guillotine in order to fuse them together into more powerful monsters. But honestly you guys, it's a JRPG.

It's an honest-to-God JRPG where you sit down and play for 50 hours. Where you get into random, turn-based battles. Where you walk three seconds from one cutscene into another. Where the characters talk in poetic and iffily translated Japanese. Where the boys are prettier than the girls. Where the plot, no matter what, is actually secretly about friendship.

And even better than that? It's a great one. There's a momentum to Persona 5, a drive to keep you playing, to make friends with that disgrace politician because he'll teach you how to be better at speeches which will make you better at winning Personas over to your side. It's a momentum that a lot of JRPGs lacked, and it's probably part of what killed the genre. But Persona 5 makes you want to cancel meetings, cut friends out of your life, and stop eating.

And even better, and more shockingly? Persona 5 is about something. I'm only 15 hours in, and there's already been a shockingly mature and developed plotline about systemic abuse that I never expected from a video game, let alone an RPG. The game, sometimes a bit too obviously, is about teenage rebellion and what place that has in society. It's something that's more relevant in Japan, but even if you don't know a lot about Japanese society (and why would you), there's an honesty to the way that these characters deal with trauma that's rare in a videogame.

This man has never played a JRPG that wasn't Final Fantasy.

[MealGin]

This thread is basically just the Thread of Bad now

[Bamyasi]

Allie's law: as a discussion on TBA grows longer, the probability of it becoming the thread of bad approaches 1.