Should we reduce the current male population by 90%

[rtil]

The common feminist argument is that the male dominance of these fields, at least the white-collar ones, is all that's driving women away. If it has more to do with adherence to dated gender roles as I suspect, I see no reason why women couldn't adopt traditionally masculine ones.

i'm aware of this but if a society is going to artificially force men out of all work then a massive re-education has to take place. many women would potentially be forced out of jobs they like in order to fill the void.

It was wrong/hyperbolic of me to imply raising male sexual market value was those things' only purpose, though I do think it's a major function. It's a certain kind of man who can't feel useful without them (see: r9k, MGTOW, etc.), and those are the ones who would cease to exist in this particular thought experiment. I use "sexual market value" in very broad terms, to include everything that might weigh in a woman's decision to kids, but power and provisions especially. Those institutions gave men power, significantly, men who would otherwise have less.

a lot plays into who has power over who but i feel a lot of these are largely out of our control. like where you are born, the society and class you're born into, the sex you're born as. everyone's dealt a different hand and there's not much you can do but play it.

There may not be a default sex, but there is a default selector sex (with good reason, is that flaky dude really going to stay with you and protect your bump/smile from saber-toothed tigers all winter?). Civilization and its dysgenic effects have rendered human evolution basically stagnant. My worldview is definitely warped in this instance, if only because I spend a lot of (probably too much) time around very unhappy young men online. Their unhappiness is justified: evolutionary psychology is depressing as fuck (get it?).

doesn't sound like a healthy bunch to be hanging around

[Gladius]

The plan outlined in your OP post and the article could never work in today's society because men are still the beast of burden, the author believes that the whole world is this white collar office space where her and her colleagues get around and discuss last night's sex in the city and drink coffee while the male coworkers drone around and rapingly stare at their tits. The fact is man, the human male, is still the majority force in agriculture, heavy industry, and the vast majority of service jobs exlcuding hospitality services. To kill 90 percent of all men would pull the carpet out from under the feet of modern civilization and cause it to fall into a black abyss.
If robots could somehow replace the lost manpower, the remaining 10% of men would have to be philosopher kings, adept in statecraft in order to event nuclear war as there would be no options for groundfighting because ALL THE MEN ARE GONE.
Women in this brave new world would most likely become a lower class, with the author you cited even suggesting it by stating the remaining men would have a cornucopia of special privileges afforded to them. This solution is the crux of stupid 2000s feminist work and only showcases how far the movement has fallen and how mentally deficient and vapid these people can be.


man I can't believe I seriously responded to a bait post.

literally comes down to this.

[d-floe]

If we're gonna start killing off men then I volunteer as tribute

[Bamyasi]

The plan outlined in your OP post and the article could never work in today's society because men are still the beast of burden, the author believes that the whole world is this white collar office space where her and her colleagues get around and discuss last night's sex in the city and drink coffee while the male coworkers drone around and rapingly stare at their tits. The fact is man, the human male, is still the majority force in agriculture, heavy industry, and the vast majority of service jobs exlcuding hospitality services. To kill 90 percent of all men would pull the carpet out from under the feet of modern civilization and cause it to fall into a black abyss.
If robots could somehow replace the lost manpower, the remaining 10% of men would have to be philosopher kings, adept in statecraft in order to event nuclear war as there would be no options for groundfighting because ALL THE MEN ARE GONE.
Women in this brave new world would most likely become a lower class, with the author you cited even suggesting it by stating the remaining men would have a cornucopia of special privileges afforded to them. This solution is the crux of stupid 2000s feminist work and only showcases how far the movement has fallen and how mentally deficient and vapid these people can be.

You're right in that this plan wouldn't work in today's society. As I see it, we're talking another century of technological progression at minimum. Increased automation is the only reason we can even start to think about stuff like this. There was never a plan to kill off men, only to make less of them through selective abortion and gamete selection ("designer children"). Addressing your last point, to me this is the logical conclusion of Feminism, only in this world there would be actual incentives to have a dick.

That said, I think the feminist in question vastly overestimates women's ability to get along. I think society would in fact suffer many of the same problems is does now. If the correct pressures are applied, neither sex really has more propensity for destruction. Dealing it out was just largely men's responsibility for most of history, but most female leaders have behaved accordingly.

i'm aware of this but if a society is going to artificially force men out of all work then a massive re-education has to take place. many women would potentially be forced out of jobs they like in order to fill the void.

Yes. Perhaps I overemphasized the urgency of this plan in OP and successive posts. By the time robot slaves are doing all the heavy lifting, there won't really be any need for gender roles, and thus gender-based career preference disparities will have dissolved, at least in theory.

a lot plays into who has power over who but i feel a lot of these are largely out of our control. like where you are born, the society and class you're born into, the sex you're born as. everyone's dealt a different hand and there's not much you can do but play it.

Very true.

doesn't sound like a healthy bunch to be hanging around

You're goddamn right.

I'll keep you updated if I find the data to support the woman's thesis/she delivers on it.

If we're gonna start killing off men then I volunteer as tribute

If only everyone could be as brave as you, Kissu.

[SrsSam77]

/r/ing the screencap of the article about the women-only tv agency that went tits up due to infighting and squabbles

:EDIT:
found it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html
while the credibility of the site is up to debate the article is a first hand account from the owner.

[Gladius]

on the bright side at least "gendercide" of 90% of males will make harems widespread again (but shy awkward young men will sure as heck not be having a slice of the action )

[Bamyasi]

Sort of. Not really. It would be more like a reverse harem, and shy awkward men would no longer exist probably.

"designer children"

Fun times ahead.

I also think the thesis in OP aligns pretty well with Transhumanist ideals. Women will probably be able to sprout dicks sooner than men could be bred out anyway.

[slack]

how is this the most serious thread we have on the forums currently

[Gladius]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOoPDjiSwdo

[valiums]

[zwimmy]

• Female bodies, in contrast, are inherently valuable as they possess a means of production (the uterus).

[zwimmy]

Bam is this saying we all have to become trans females until only 10% of the male population remains?


[spoiler]please no[/spoiler]

[d-floe]

thread of dank v3 is looking pretty good yo

[valiums]

2016 starting strong.

[soup]

THE YEAR IS 2017

EMOTION IS WEAKNESS AND DISPLAYS OF FREE THOUGHT / SPEECH ARE MET WITH TERMINATION.

NOTHING IN LIFE HAS ANY INTRINSIC VALUE BEYOND THE ABILITY TO PROPAGATE AND REPRODUCE.

YOUR VALUE IS DEFINED BY YOUR GENETIC WORTH, WEAK AND FRAIL SPECIMENS ARE TERMINATED FOR THE GOOD OF HUMANITY. THEIR FLAWED GENETICS MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO CONTAMINATE THE PERFECTION WE HAVE CREATED.

MEN ARE KEPT AS STOCK AND HARVESTED FOR PRECIOUS SEED.

IN VITRO FERTILIZATION AND ROBOTIC CARETAKERS ENSURE WOMEN WILL NEVER HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THE TYRANNY OF MAN EVER AGAIN.

[SrsSam77]

robot waifus 2017

[bd648]

robot waifus 2017

reduce human population 2016

[Bamyasi]