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Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: W.A.C. on August 14, 2010 08:14 PM
(https://thebackalleys.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpicon.ngfiles.com%2F544000%2Fportal_544726.gif&hash=d8ad032932aa75f0a8a18aaa73c5fc4288b29ec1) (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/544726) Click here to watch this flash! (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/544726)

I forgot to make a thread about this. >_> The reception have been extremely mixed because people had huge expectations thanks to the really well made trailer from '06. [LINK] (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/303079) I really like this flash animation a lot and even if you dislike it, at least you have to admit a lot of effort went into this compared to a lot of other Sonic flashes with gigantically huge scores that are absolute shit. (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/475659)
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: DrRumack on August 14, 2010 08:22 PM
not watching

dont care
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: Fuzz on August 14, 2010 09:30 PM
I didn't think it was possible... but WAC... you just made me hate you.    You just made me cross that line...
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: creamcorn on August 14, 2010 09:45 PM
Quote from: W.A.C.(https://thebackalleys.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpicon.ngfiles.com%2F544000%2Fportal_544726.gif&hash=d8ad032932aa75f0a8a18aaa73c5fc4288b29ec1) (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/544726) Click here to watch this flash! (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/544726)

I forgot to make a thread about this. >_> The reception have been extremely mixed because people had huge expectations thanks to the really well made trailer from '06. [LINK] (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/303079) I really like this flash animation a lot and even if you dislike it, at least you have to admit a lot of effort went into this compared to a lot of other Sonic flashes with gigantically huge scores that are absolute shit. (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/475659)

its also better than this (http://cool.on.nimp.org/) imho
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: retrosmash on August 14, 2010 09:46 PM
why do you keep making threads
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: W.A.C. on August 14, 2010 10:56 PM
Quote from: FuzzI didn't think it was possible... but WAC... you just made me hate you.    You just made me cross that line...
D:

Quote from: creamcornits also better than this (http://cool.on.nimp.org/) imho
Hahahaha. I'm not foolish enough to fall for the Last Measure. >_> Nice try though.
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: Gerkinman on August 14, 2010 11:36 PM
Dude, that was a steaming pile of ass.That fbf looked shit, all done with the line tool, sometimes really angular and other times really wobbly, the 3d effects were thrown in too look cool, only they didnt look cool, they just pulled things down further. Just bad, why would you post this? Saying this is better then most other sonic flash is like saying having Herpes is better then having AIDS.
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: rtil on August 15, 2010 02:19 AM
this guy admitted that he traces sfx animation to me a few years ago

in any case this was horrible
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: W.A.C. on August 15, 2010 06:39 AM
Quote from: rtilin any case this was horrible
I remember you once gave the trailer an 8/10 with the main criticism being the footage at the beginning which was from his '03 flash. Why do you view this as horrible?
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: rtil on August 15, 2010 06:41 AM
Quote from: W.A.C.
Quote from: rtilin any case this was horrible
I remember you once gave the trailer an 8/10 with the main criticism being the footage at the beginning which was from his '03 flash. Why do you view this as horrible?
because it's not 2005
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: W.A.C. on August 15, 2010 06:56 AM
The trailer released in '06, but it was March '06 so w/e.
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: jjjjjjjjjj on August 15, 2010 07:05 AM
im really mad at this thread
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: rtil on August 15, 2010 07:07 AM
wac if you watch that and can't figure out why it's horrible you need to find out why your brain stopped maturing at the age of 12
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: jjjjjjjjjj on August 15, 2010 07:07 AM
jseed is getting frustrated i dont like it
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: W.A.C. on August 15, 2010 07:36 AM
Quote from: rtilwac if you watch that and can't figure out why it's horrible you need to find out why your brain stopped maturing at the age of 12
I love the flash and think it was totally worth the wait but what can I say? I'm a Sonic fanboy. <_<
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: rtil on August 15, 2010 08:19 AM
any real sonic fan would know that piece of garbage is in the same league as every 3d sonic game that has come out in the last 5 years
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: W.A.C. on August 15, 2010 08:26 AM


Why do you dislike the flash movie so much and what made you like the trailer back in '06?
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: shura on August 15, 2010 08:45 AM
idk i guess i can appreciate the effort this guy put into the flash, but it was just so cheesy, lame, and stupid
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: Gerkinman on August 15, 2010 10:45 AM
Quote from: W.A.C.
Quote from: rtilwac if you watch that and can't figure out why it's horrible you need to find out why your brain stopped maturing at the age of 12
I love the flash and think it was totally worth the wait but what can I say? I'm a Sonic fanboy. <_<


There hasn't been a good sonic game since before you were born.
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
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Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: rtil on August 15, 2010 05:11 PM
Quote from: W.A.C.Why do you dislike the flash movie so much and what made you like the trailer back in '06?
can you seriously not figure this out for yourself?

ok, not only was this 4/5 years ago and i was a lot more lenient back then considering i was gay enough to be leaving reviews on sonic flash cartoons, but have you ever seen a trailer that ended up being better than the final product? you know, trailers that only show the good parts (aka traced parts) of the end result? and then it comes out years after the mediocre hype for it died down, only for it to completely suck? if you spend 5 years on a flashy, shakycam fight between sonic and shadow and the animation ends up looking that shitty, i don't care how much sonic dick you suck, you'd have to be completely deluded to think that flash was even mediocre.
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: MarcK on August 15, 2010 07:12 PM
I was thinking that maybe this flash would be good because someone worked on it for a long time. Maybe it would be so bad it would be funny, unintentionally by the artist and the wac.

But no this flash wasn't even funny.
1st I was confused by the loading screen page. The town in the background running really fast with the looped ocean sparkes was fucking backwards and weird and horrible.

Then the frame by framing with line tool came in and I almost closed it then, but I was curious.

Music: shitty, annoying, gay.
Animation: if you trace over 3d animation, can't time up a fist/eye closing correctly, and depend on line tool for consistency then you're a bad animator and need to practice/stop trying.
Plot: aaaaaaaaaaaaa

I wouldn't even add it as a plus that the guy spent years making it, because what took up those years was the length, which I noticed had a timeline: the crystal at the bottom which I could slide through the plot with. When I noticed it, I closed it out, because holy shit fuck no im not watching this for that long.

Summary: waste of time for everyone why am i even writing this.
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: W.A.C. on August 15, 2010 07:19 PM
Quote from: GerkinmanThere hasn't been a good sonic game since before you were born.
I was born on October 24th, 1989 and the first Sonic game released on June 23rd, 1991 so you are very incorrect unless you don't view any of the Sonic games as good which would still make you incorrect. >_>

Quote from: rtilcan you seriously not figure this out for yourself?

ok, not only was this 4/5 years ago and i was a lot more lenient back then considering i was gay enough to be leaving reviews on sonic flash cartoons, but have you ever seen a trailer that ended up being better than the final product? you know, trailers that only show the good parts (aka traced parts) of the end result? and then it comes out years after the mediocre hype for it died down, only for it to completely suck? if you spend 5 years on a flashy, shakycam fight between sonic and shadow and the animation ends up looking that shitty, i don't care how much sonic dick you suck, you'd have to be completely deluded to think that flash was even mediocre.
While the animation was inconsistent, there were a lot of very well animated parts of the movie that aren't in the trailer. Act 3 had some of the best animation in the flash and yet none of that was even in the trailer.
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: MarcK on August 15, 2010 07:25 PM
Quote from: W.A.C.
Quote from: GerkinmanThere hasn't been a good sonic game since before you were born.
I was born on October 24th, 1989 and the first Sonic game released on June 23rd, 1991 so you are very incorrect unless you don't view any of the Sonic games as good which would still make you incorrect. >_>
he was calling you 12

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Quote from: rtilcan you seriously not figure this out for yourself?

ok, not only was this 4/5 years ago and i was a lot more lenient back then considering i was gay enough to be leaving reviews on sonic flash cartoons, but have you ever seen a trailer that ended up being better than the final product? you know, trailers that only show the good parts (aka traced parts) of the end result? and then it comes out years after the mediocre hype for it died down, only for it to completely suck? if you spend 5 years on a flashy, shakycam fight between sonic and shadow and the animation ends up looking that shitty, i don't care how much sonic dick you suck, you'd have to be completely deluded to think that flash was even mediocre.
While the animation was inconsistent, there were a lot of very well animated parts of the movie that aren't in the trailer. Act 3 had some of the best animation in the flash and yet none of that was even in the trailer.
one good part in like 6 to how many fucking minutes of 3d tracing and shitty timing/spacing doesn't make this flash a goldmine for inspiration in the art of cinema you dense wac

i havent even seen act 3 but im pretty sure it sucks
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: Casey Pixmintro on August 15, 2010 07:41 PM
WAC you are a super deluxe faggot. Here is why:

1. you made a sonic cartoon
2. wasn't even a good sonic cartoon
3. takin shit way too seriously
4. arguing like a bitch
5. fuck you i can't stand you and i never could
6. die please or at least go away
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: rtil on August 15, 2010 08:58 PM
Quote from: W.A.C.
Quote from: GerkinmanThere hasn't been a good sonic game since before you were born.
I was born on October 24th, 1989 and the first Sonic game released on June 23rd, 1991 so you are very incorrect unless you don't view any of the Sonic games as good which would still make you incorrect. >_>

Quote from: rtilcan you seriously not figure this out for yourself?

ok, not only was this 4/5 years ago and i was a lot more lenient back then considering i was gay enough to be leaving reviews on sonic flash cartoons, but have you ever seen a trailer that ended up being better than the final product? you know, trailers that only show the good parts (aka traced parts) of the end result? and then it comes out years after the mediocre hype for it died down, only for it to completely suck? if you spend 5 years on a flashy, shakycam fight between sonic and shadow and the animation ends up looking that shitty, i don't care how much sonic dick you suck, you'd have to be completely deluded to think that flash was even mediocre.
While the animation was inconsistent, there were a lot of very well animated parts of the movie that aren't in the trailer. Act 3 had some of the best animation in the flash and yet none of that was even in the trailer.
any part of this that look good was traced. it's pretty obvious because the guy clearly can't draw or animate on his own, and there's huge drops in quality at random times, presumably when he couldn't find something to trace that suited the camera angle
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: lenko on August 15, 2010 09:15 PM
im still trying to fathom how this took him 4 years? this comes off more like it took 3-4 months. casually at that
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: Capsize on August 15, 2010 09:22 PM
The result of Sonic - Link (http://www.cogsdev.org/cwcki/Christian_Weston_Chandler)

I hate sonic.
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: Gerkinman on August 15, 2010 09:22 PM
Why hasn't this thread been locked, im worried ill catch WACs Super Sonic gay germs.
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: W.A.C. on August 15, 2010 09:35 PM
Quote from: MarcKone good part in like 6 to how many fucking minutes of 3d tracing and shitty timing/spacing doesn't make this flash a goldmine for inspiration in the art of cinema you dense wac

i havent even seen act 3 but im pretty sure it sucks
Well, the flash movie was broken into three prts.

Quote from: Casey Pixmintro1. you made a sonic cartoon
I didn't make it. The best thing I've animated is a moving boat with tweening. >_>

Quote from: rtilany part of this that look good was traced. it's pretty obvious because the guy clearly can't draw or animate on his own, and there's huge drops in quality at random times, presumably when he couldn't find something to trace that suited the camera angle
Generally, the animation continued to get better as the flesh went on because he continued to improve his art style. I highly doubt he did a bunch of tracing as you claim he did and he has some articles on his site on how he animated the flash. [LINK] (http://www.nushift.net/animation/sxcc/animation.htm) [LINK] (http://www.nushift.net/tutorials/tut01.htm)

Quote from: vegetaim still trying to fathom how this took him 4 years? this comes off more like it took 3-4 months. casually at that
He started working on this in '03 so it's actually 7 years.
Title: Sonic X: Cosmic Chase
Post by: ZekeySpaceyLizard on August 18, 2010 11:03 AM
Each time you post I'm shocked at how you fulfill every possible possible cliche of the casual internet retard. All you need is a god damn invader zim avatar, but you have Xombie so that's close enough. You have the taste of a child. Fuck yourself.

in short, ride a boat of cocks off a waterfall of shit.