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hi Tim Kretschmer
what in the what
ugh how can he go on for so long about such a trivial internet disagreement? I have difficulty mustering up the strength to even GET angry at someone these days, much less hold such a long-lasting and raging grudge
Quote from: anselugh how can he go on for so long about such a trivial internet disagreement?
no clue. im not even that bothered by snawsball anymore.
yall niggas gotta chill.
y'all just a bunch of fucken haters
talking about punching rtil in the face at con, real mature there
i just like how he tried to make it seem like the sirtom thing has anything at all to do with the backalleys
its the most ignorant thing i think he's ever said
we're going have people blaming columbine on tba next. just you guys wait. the day is a-comin.
Quote from: Zekeywe're going have people blaming columbine on tba next. just you guys wait. the day is a-comin.
oh man that would be great
we should go to comic con and walk away with assault charges B-)
Quote from: Billywe should go to comic con and walk away with assault charges B-)
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Quote from: rtilQuote from: Billywe should go to comic con and walk away with assault charges B-)
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do it
if I had the spare money I would go and kick sum buttz /w you guys!
i can do a little kung fu and I would make mc say uncle
QuoteAssociateKilla: we're people who are gonna knock his teeth out if he bothers showing up at events with us
AssociateKilla: he should act his age
aaaghaghagagaaa
Quote from: bugthis is retarded on a level thats hard to understand
pppfttaahahahahahah
I love how he keeps going on about how rtil is just trying to get attention, but then he's all, "Rtil this..." and "Rtil that..."
Way to prove a point there buddy-o!
wellwellwell
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Quote from: Tim Kretschmerdo it
if I had the spare money I would go and kick sum buttz /w you guys!
i can do a little kung fu and I would make mc say uncle
you always act like you prefer all your ng friends when you talk to ng staff on aim, but when you post here you seem to be the opposite. whos side are you really on
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Quote from: BlordowQuote from: Tim Kretschmerdo it
if I had the spare money I would go and kick sum buttz /w you guys!
i can do a little kung fu and I would make mc say uncle
you always act like you prefer all your ng friends when you talk to ng staff on aim, but when you post here you seem to be the opposite. whos side are you really on
He said not to take anything he said seriously, I think it's obvious psi was just egging swain on to get more of a reaction out of him
at least, that's what i would do
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yep
hahaha 99 thats great
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LMAO
we should make a game that's nothing but the swain beating the shit out of rtil. one button game, just keep mashing a. if you have a friend they can play as mindchamber and keep mashing p
That was fun to make.
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Quote from: BlordowQuote from: Tim Kretschmerdo it
if I had the spare money I would go and kick sum buttz /w you guys!
i can do a little kung fu and I would make mc say uncle
you always act like you prefer all your ng friends when you talk to ng staff on aim, but when you post here you seem to be the opposite. whos side are you really on
lmfao sorry I'm just a good liar!
On the internet especially cause there's pretty much nothing that could give it away.
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lmao rtil gettin pwnt all over the floor
ahahaehahaeha
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lmfao
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only one that made me laugh
the nachos forum cannot be closed when brawl funnies is over.
I really cannot believe what a colossal ass the-swain is. He's talking about how traditional animation is obsolete, and that animation is just tedious work. I think he's gotten into this mindset where he doesn't need to improve since he can get work, etc just from his flash cartoons, and he thinks having work makes him good. I just don't know where he gets all this pent-up rage from. He talks about how when you met at comic con, you talked and exchanged pleasantries and were great pals-- but he makes it out to look like you were the one who couldn't keep up his rage in real life. I have never felt as strongly as he does about anyone on newgrounds or on the internet at all, and it's a mystery to me how he's still smoldering
Quote from: anselthe nachos forum cannot be closed when brawl funnies is over.
i won't close it as long as you guys keep using it
also lmao @ all of this psi, you're really good at fooling him. you'd think after a while he'd realize what is going on, but i guess he loves complaining about me too much to let it go. amazing how much he has to say considering i haven't said so much as a word to him in almost half a year
I even HINTED to him that I was fucking with him:
Psi43 pkz: I still do that from time to time but in a somewhat deeper way
he didn't get it tho lucky me
how long has this been going on
i support this thread.
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LMAO what the fuck happened while I was gone?
QuoteAssociateKilla: his school degree will get him a great job doing the animation for other peoples' cartoons, which i think is hilarious
i don't get this.
Quote from: SashuraQuoteAssociateKilla: his school degree will get him a great job doing the animation for other peoples' cartoons, which i think is hilarious
i don't get this.
he thinks animation is a one man job and anybody who decides to work for someone else is a fucking moron aparrently
oh my lawd what is this
omg so cute!
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Quote from: SashuraQuoteAssociateKilla: his school degree will get him a great job doing the animation for other peoples' cartoons, which i think is hilarious
i don't get this.
I don't know if the swain graduated (think he did) but his degree or lack of a degree has only got him a job doing art for other people's games. I think he considers himself above other flash animators because he wants to think he's "independent."
internet fights: boring people arguing with boring people egged on by bored people
Bwahahaha. The comics and drawings are wonderful.
Quote from: Legendary Cambo Froginternet fights: boring people arguing with boring people egged on by bored people
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party pooper[/b]seriously though stop trying to act like you\\\'re all cool and above us cuz we\\\'ll drag you right down back down to earth pal
hey guys i team up with people such as spongebobfan101, afrodaziacgam3r, sasukenagato9, armord00d, and other ng peepz. that means i am proffesional at its finest
Quote from: Blordowhey guys i team up with people such as spongebobfan101, afrodaziacgam3r, sasukenagato9, armord00d, and other ng peepz. that means i am proffesional at its finest
lmfao yea i gotta admit its truly remarkable to me how someone could be so fucking stupid to think that anything NG related constitutes real world experience
envy seeps through everything he writes. the only logical reason for him to be so obsessed with predicting the career trajectories of other artists is that he's worried he himself always be too shitty for anything but the internet.
i especially love how he acts like freelance gives you so much freedom. i do freelance and hes full of shit, you get as much creative freedom as your employer gives you, which isnt always a lot. also funny how if he wants work, he'll have to continue to grovel for it online in the dwindling freelancing market where, truth be told, you'll have such sporadic work you'll be much more of a failure in five years than someone "selling their soul" at a major studio. yeah good luck outbidding the cheap indians on getafreelancer, swainy, i'd rather be animating captain flapjack....
also
AssociateKilla: animation is just data entry
AssociateKilla: the only difference between it and data entry is that it's visual
yeah if you have absolutely no creative or artistic vision in your work like swain, then animation is just data entry!
i think its a great and delicious irony of newgrounds in that all the 'popular' animators really hate animating. it sums up everything wrong with the place so well.
Quote from: MrScriblamhe thinks animation is a one man job and anybody who decides to work for someone else is a fucking moron aparrently
while it is true that not everyone wants to create cartoons for someone else it is a waste of time to blatantly insult people who want to work with a studio to other people over aim.
You would get more done if you spent a lot less time worrying about people that want to work for an animation studio and more time just working for yourself.
QuotePsi43 pkz: Yeah you do the art but he has the ideas and thinks about where to put it and all, if your art doesn't match up with his idea
AssociateKilla: but these are programmers, they dont have any artistic ideas haha
Psi43 pkz: he would still use it instead of paying someone else
AssociateKilla: they dont have something in their head already of how it should look
Psi43 pkz: lmfao how do you know that
AssociateKilla: because i know a LOT of programmers
AssociateKilla: i could go through the list i've worked with
AssociateKilla: glaiel, afroninja, toonimated rodrigo, komix, TheEXP, jmtb02, armorgames dan, mr.fulp
AssociateKilla: all guys i've done shit with
AssociateKilla: thats just the start btw :-(
I think that's the most insulting part to me. Game design is an art, and maybe there's a reason all the games he's been involved in suck dicks. What he claims to be doing is practically the exact opposite of letting a programmer do his own art. There has to be a medium of communication and creativity on both the programmer and artist's parts.
If the programmer does the art you'll get a shitty looking game and if the artist has no guidelines you'll have a great looking game that plays like shit. If everyone works together you get a good game.
I didn't hate the-swain but now I do.
He's pretty much saying that scripters can't think in pictures.
what kind of statement is that
Quote from: Tim KretschmerHe's pretty much saying that scripters can't think in pictures.
what kind of statement is that
He's just trying to justify his own lack of imagination. He is pretty much sticking with a character he said he created as a child.
most cartoonists i see on the internet already moved onto new characters they created recently instead.
Quote from: BillyI didn't hate the-swain but now I do.
Quote from: Zekeyi think its a great and delicious irony of newgrounds in that all the 'popular' animators really hate animating. it sums up everything wrong with the place so well.
Quote from: Tim KretschmerHe's pretty much saying that scripters can't think in pictures.
what kind of statement is that
yeah what kind of moron programmer doesnt know what they want their game to look like
Quote from: MrScriblamyeah what kind of moron programmer doesnt know what they want their game to look like
The ones that hire swain to draw the art.
Quote from: f0dQuote from: BillyI didn't hate the-swain but now I do.
Quote from: MightydeinQuote from: MrScriblamyeah what kind of moron programmer doesnt know what they want their game to look like
The ones that hire swain to draw the art.
the ones who are churning out stupid clone games that could have any kind of art slapped on them
the swain is not special because he has total artistic freedom, if anything it makes him more disposable
I'm kinda sad to see how The-Swain would be saying something like this.
Quote from: SonniI'm kinda sad to see how The-Swain would be saying something like this.
Yeah, I actually used to be a fan of his animation, etc. Hated Blockhead, I just liked to watch it move... I still like it, to a degree, but his comments about how it's just "data entry" have kind of ruined it. If he's not having fun animating, and he knows it, I can't respect him. Even aside from that his obsessive hatred for rtil and tba is also a big downer
i used to hate him but now i think hes cool
I still like his cartoons a bit but he said some really gay things there.
Quote from: emanI still like his cartoons a bit but he said some really gay things there.
he's a nice guy but yeah this semi-vendetta against tba and the fact that merely mentioning ryan makes him go off on a 20 minute rant is a bit silly
And most of all, why does give lengthy lectures on how people should ignore Ryan, yet he talks about him endlessly...do I smell the sickly-sweet stench of hypocrisy? MMMMMM
Quote from: 99do I smell the sickly-sweet stench of hypocrisy? MMMMMM
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hey guys i did everything rtil has ever hoped to do with half the effort i got a cartoon with a score over 3/5