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after some thought i've decided to turn freetown into a comic. reasons being:

• it will take me years just to make a single episode (aka another "fallen angel")
• what i want to do with it as a cartoon is an unrealistic amount of work for one person
• i can focus more on the quality of the artwork as a comic
• teh

so, i've sent the animated series to scrap and started a comic. i haven't put this anywhere yet but i'll be showing stuff here first to see what you guys think. here is the cover page. i'll make a couple pages before i start releasing it, because i won't able to work on it alot from here on until may when i'll be dealing with final projects, graduation, getting a job and probably moving out of state. hope you guys like it. the first part of freetown focuses on the story of erelli, which i haven't touched on at all until now

well it'll be sad to not see it animated but yeah at least each episode or chapter won't take 2 years to be released

also that is one niec cover

Yeah, I've gotta say that it's sad to hear that I won't be able to sit back with some popcorn and watch another episode.
But Freetown is Freetown, and I'll take whatever of it I can get.
Besides, comics are cool

Also, it looks like there's three suns out there now, and he's wearing an overcoat...

i love it, but i think the hat should have some texture. right now it kinda looks like it's made of paper
but wow, it's beautiful.

i will only read it if it has lots of fan service

Quote from: Sashurai love it, but i think the hat should have some texture. right now it kinda looks like it's made of paper
but wow, it's beautiful.

Hey pointy paper hats are all the rage...

So you couldn't get any help on the animated series?
Why not recruit some people?
But still, a comic is better than nothing.

i don't have the money or resources to do that
and if you're suggesting people online i've never met before
that's a disaster waiting to happen

rtil you make the body parts and ill tween them for you
and maybe grinace can do some rap for the soundtrack
and wac can be our executive producer
starring the voice talents of rina chan

Wait really? I assumed it was something you wanted to make into like a full-fledged series someday and not tackle it completely on your own. I can understand the comic route, the same thought crossed my mind about my series a few times but I don't nearly have the experience for doing solid artwork to make a halfway decent comic. Like the cover, too.

Also if you were up to it you could do special points of the story as fully animated movies or something.

rtil before you do any of this shit read watchmen.

Quote from: rtilso, i've sent the animated series to scrap and started a comic.

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did you animate anything on the second episode?

I'll say its better to get your story out this way.
What other plans for the comic do ya have?

Quote from: KirbopherWait really? I assumed it was something you wanted to make into like a full-fledged series someday and not tackle it completely on your own.

yeah really, that's why i said that.

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Also if you were up to it you could do special points of the story as fully animated movies or something.

i've been thinking about it

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rtil before you do any of this shit read watchmen.

alright

Quote from: f0ddid you animate anything on the second episode?

yes

Quote from: J_SeedI'll say its better to get your story out this way.
What other plans for the comic do ya have?

to stick with it unlike anorexia man

Everyones already taken the good points so just going to say good luck! It'll be great to finally see what freetown is actually all about as this pic here's been somewhat of a tease. http://www.thebackalleys.com/freetown/the-...uctors-cast.png (http://www.thebackalleys.com/freetown/the-conductors-cast.png)

but we won't get to hear your wonderful voice acting

I always thought it would work better as a comic with say metrocircuit style shorts produced once a year just to show things off a bit. Glad you're taking this direction, because like Khale it would just take you too long to tell the entire story if you did it in Flash.

mm yeah khale too. but seriously i'm talkin fallen angel lengths of wait times for single episodes. then there's the size issue thing.. sometimes it's just better to convert it all to video but then LOL THIS BELONGS ON YOUTUBE

Are you gonna use the Comic Section of TBA and post them there, or are you gonna make a different site and make it like a webcomic? How are you gonna distribute it around?

Quote from: J_SeedAre you gonna use the Comic Section of TBA and post them there, or are you gonna make a different site and make it like a webcomic? How are you gonna distribute it around?

theres like a million ways for him to do it i guess. deviantart etc. I guess he could make a special section for it on TBA.

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Quote from: J_SeedAre you gonna use the Comic Section of TBA and post them there, or are you gonna make a different site and make it like a webcomic? How are you gonna distribute it around?

theres like a million ways for him to do it i guess. deviantart etc. I guess he could make a special section for it on TBA.

yeah, you should put it on tba. it might bring you some more members

i'm going to post it here and on deviantart. i will post the pages here a few days earlier though for people that are actually interested in reading it. i will utilize the comics section, i'm looking for some good free software right now, something that will just allow you to browse by page and all that. i've also been thinking of putting things here you can only get here, like maybe colored pages or flash/comic hybrids. but i really can't bother with all of that right now, school calls

well la de da

to be honest
i didn't expect this  

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• teh

holy fucking dick

Well rtil... if this is what you really have to. It would be great to see it animated but, i understand you. Its only one of you. You will turn 50 when youre done animating the whole freetown story. Besides, i always enjoy reading good quality comics, especially with a capturing and strongly appealing style like yours. Itll be just as good, sorta... if you really know how to be alive with the story and the moments of the comic. Plus you get to enjoy the artwork on a closer perspective. Its not all bad... i look forward to your comic then!

cool
looking forward to it

whats freetown

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Quote from: KirbopherWait really? I assumed it was something you wanted to make into like a full-fledged series someday and not tackle it completely on your own.

yeah really, that's why i said that.

Oh no I mean it sounded like you were gonna do the entire thing on your own, but when I saw the first "episode" I assumed that it was just a test and you'd really wanted to have it done in an animation team. It was hard to tell what direction you were goin' for.

oh. well maybe someday i'll pitch it , but not with that. the reason why i animated metropolis circuit was to test how far i could push myself from just an animation standpoint. i took a song i liked, some characters i had for what was a vague idea at the time (which was freetown), and made them do crazy shit. as far as the story, i'm not even sure where it will go as i actually start putting it down in comic form

Okay cool. Hell I'd imagine after a while you'd establish enough connections to make that happen, who knows. Either case I'll definitely check it out.

I hope to see it animated later on as you are an animator more than a comic artist in my book.

Well, I'll still enjoy the other flashes you make every now and then.


It's a sad day for MEETNFUCK Metropolis Circuit.

Quote from: SHADOWFOX2Yeah, I've gotta say that it's sad to hear that I won't be able to sit back with some popcorn and watch another episode.

lmao are you serious?

That's too bad. But at least we're going to get to see the comic though.

That sucks ass. I'll still read the comic though. I wanna see what you got done animating before you changed your mind all the sudden.

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Quote from: SHADOWFOX2Yeah, I've gotta say that it's sad to hear that.
I won't be able to sit back with some popcorn and watch another episode.

Fixed

But seriously I was lookin' forward to Freetown and that game we still haven't picked up 'cause of Brawl Funnies.

thanks guys. i took some parts of the intro for the episode and made a short promo out of it which i'll put on ng and da to let whoever cares know that it's turning into a comic.

i'm definitely not gonna stop animating though, blvd and i have that animation out in april or may and i've got lots of other things i'd like to animate this year as well

It's sad that you won't animate the thing anymore.
But I'm sure looking forward to the comic anyway.

submit it to teh ng art portal LoL

not in a million years

I was still expecting at least one more movie before you gave up on this thing.

i didn't give up, i'm being realistic and moving it in another direction.

man.  i want the storyboard or whatever u completed of the animation

i will show tiny parts of it in a short promo for the comic but that is all, sorry

Quote from: FrozenSheepI was still expecting at least one more movie before you gave up on this thing.

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maybe make it an animated comic

i have been thinking about that, a flash/comic hybrid. it would be hard to pull off but really fun at the same time. i will probably try it on a page at some point and see how it turns out

make it like men's warehouse

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Quote from: SHADOWFOX2Yeah, I've gotta say that it's sad to hear that.
I won't be able to sit back with some popcorn and watch another episode.

Fixed

But seriously I was lookin' forward to Freetown and that game we still haven't picked up 'cause of Brawl Funnies.

that's what i was talking about, sitting back with some popcorn to watch a flash movie. i just can't help but ropesnake

on the subject of freetown, on a recent watch i noticed that violet lights her cig wrong. she doesn't inhale when lighting it!!

also the comic/animation hybrid sounds awesome

Quote from: rtili have been thinking about that, a flash/comic hybrid. it would be hard to pull off but really fun at the same time. i will probably try it on a page at some point and see how it turns out

you could animate the comic and add voiceacting, that'd be neat.

no voices.. also there's hardly any talking in the first volume

Quote from: rtilno voices.. also there's hardly any talking in the first volume

i think you should make a flash version of the comic that basically moves from panel to panel and has the sound and voices

imo

i think you should make it a stage play that uses minimal props except a chair and a bottle of whiskey and a statuette of a weeping mime.

i also think you should only cast 2 people to play all the parts. and that both of those people should be girls.

ok? ok.

those are my helpful suggestions

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Quote from: rtilno voices.. also there's hardly any talking in the first volume

i think you should make a flash version of the comic that basically moves from panel to panel and has the sound and voices

imo

that's starting to sound like broken saints but with voices

Quote from: Zekeyholy fucking dick

Quote from: f0dsubmit it to teh ng art portal LoL

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there are 3 black guys in part of a sub story , dunnno if they'll make an appearance though

On the way to Oklahoma, I turned into a cat
My true love was a Tiger, I'm sure you can see that
I called the tiger Dolly, it was my mother's name
On the way to Oklahoma you finally became sane

On the way to Oklahoma, a voice inside my mind
Demanding that my senses expanded space and time
The voice revealed a feeling of heated ecstasy
On the way to Oklahoma, I peed upon a tree

On the way to Oklahoma, I needed to eat meat
So I attacked a dog who was sleeping in the heat
While eating in the sunshine a pleasant thing occurred
On the way to Oklahoma I licked myself and purred

On the way to Oklahoma, his split became complete
Reality had faded, his fantasy complete
The world he had constructed, from felines and despair
On the way to Oklahoma, became as clear as air

Quote from: FrozenSheepI was still expecting at least one more movie before you gave up on this thing.

unreasonable fan expectations are exactly the type of thing that cripple an ambitious project like this

fuck off

page two

i will make five pages before i start "releasing" it. that should be a good buffer in case i wont be able to make a page once a week

the first pages will be a little slow , i want to nail the location and there won't be a lot of dialogue either

Now that looks cool, especially the bike, can't wait to see more.

hmm i think i've already figured the ending out..

haha

even i don't know the ending yet

oh cool are there gonna be dystopic-world-esque motorcycle gangs fighting for turf?

I like the drawing

there are gangs in the story but they're not necessarily motorcycle gangs, although there are a couple other motorbikes and hoverbikes

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Quote from: rtilno voices.. also there's hardly any talking in the first volume

i think you should make a flash version of the comic that basically moves from panel to panel and has the sound and voices

imo

that's starting to sound like broken saints but with voices

except broken saints is boring and shitty.

KANADAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Seriously tho, im looking forward to it. Tho i dont know where people get this weird idea that comics take less time to do then animation. A really nice looking comic can take just as long to put together as a quality fbf cartoon.

i like the pages so far and i saw your other stuff on DA and i think this will turn out very good! im looking forward to it as well!

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Quote from: rtilno voices.. also there's hardly any talking in the first volume

i think you should make a flash version of the comic that basically moves from panel to panel and has the sound and voices

imo

that's starting to sound like broken saints but with voices

except broken saints is boring and shitty.

well yea but that was kinda my point, i don't really like "animated slideshows"

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Seriously tho, im looking forward to it. Tho i dont know where people get this weird idea that comics take less time to do then animation. A really nice looking comic can take just as long to put together as a quality fbf cartoon.

from my experience i am able to get a story done through a comic faster, and this is a looooooooooong story. also welcome back

Quote from: chickeni like the pages so far and i saw your other stuff on DA and i think this will turn out very good! im looking forward to it as well!

thanks chicken

it came out amazing. i love the lighting on everything. i thought there were 2 suns tho

there are but you can't see both in that for aesthetic reasons alone

page 3??????????

i'm too busy to work on this at the moment

aww

This guy is making his project part comic part animation. Might be something for you?
Just throwing it out there.

http://unknown-person.deviantart.com/ (http://unknown-person.deviantart.com/)

I bet you could pull off something like this.
http://balak01.deviantart.com/art/about-DI...OMICS-111966969 (http://balak01.deviantart.com/art/about-DIGITAL-COMICS-111966969)

or like
http://www.nawlz.com/ (http://www.nawlz.com/)

yep, thought about it.

Quote from: HarryTheHeador like
http://www.nawlz.com/ (http://www.nawlz.com/)

oh wow, that one's amazing

Quote from: FuzzI bet you could pull off something like this.
http://balak01.deviantart.com/art/about-DI...OMICS-111966969 (http://balak01.deviantart.com/art/about-DIGITAL-COMICS-111966969)

I dont see why DeviantArt dosent have a Flash app for navigating through comics. I mean it saves time and compiles the whole comic in one deviation. I know you could do this yourself in Flash, but it would be better if dA made one for us (not everyone knows how to use Flash).

I like teh bike.

i think it would be much better if you made it a normal comic, that way youll focus on the story telling and the sceneries and stuff and not ooh look ill put some neat buttons here and there and a flashing thingy here pretty cool huh

like that nawlz thing ugh

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Quote from: HarryTheHeador like
http://www.nawlz.com/ (http://www.nawlz.com/)

oh wow, that one's amazing

rtil linked me to it a while ago in some other topic so its a full circle irony thing