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sorry, for making so many art threads! i promise this is the last one. so anyway,

WOO!

my dad surprised me with a wacom for hanukkah!! fuck line tool shit =D

so here is a screenshot from a flash that i've been working on since rtil helped me crack CS4
i originally drew the outline with my touchpad, but with the wacom i was able to redraw, color, and refine it. I wish i could have done a better job shading, but i honestly have no idea how to do proper cel-shading in flash. im still pretty unfamiliar with it =/
the reason why the background is plain, is because im currently trying to make a nice background in photoshop

so yeah, that's pretty much it. i know it isn't much, but criticism and advice would be much appreciated =]

the cel shading looks fine to me. good choice of colors

look forward to seeing a backdrop

do the characters have faces? i've noticed all your full bodied characters never have one. while it could be on purpose, i think it's important characters at least have eyes they're the windows to our soulssssss

yeah its very good but like rtil said the lack of eyes is kinda weird

the colors are great =]
the rest has already been said

i hate drawing faces DX
i might just make her hair longer so i can just cover up her face =/

actually...

there is a part of the flash where you do get to see her face. i'll color it and put that up here

anime

You seem to be very familiarized with anatomy,( wich I know its basic for an animator and Im working on it too).

I dont really mind the eyes and such, I guess that is part of your style.

i saw someone mention "fisheye" in another thread, so i thought i would give it a shot.

this is a girl playing soccer. why she has no pants, i do not know. i just omitted them for some reason. whatever, people play soccer in their underwear, right? in japan??

so here's my first attempt at fisheye, drawn in flash. i didn't use the "fisheye filter and trace" technique because my photoshop doesn't have a fisheye filter, so i drew this freehand. but i did use another picture as a reference. i had A LOT of trouble with this. =P
i don't feel great about this piece, but i think it came out alright for my first time =/

it's good for a first time
only things i see wrong is her left arm seems too thin, and the right leg kinda confuses me but yea first time

a fisheye filter wouldn't work so well because it requires depth to know what to distort more. so it would probably look strange on art that wasn't meant to be viewed in a fisheye lens to begin with. this is a pretty good shot at it , i think there are a few lines that are causing problems but it's not really worth mentioning. a lot of issues can be cleverly solved with coloring & tone

OKAY. so i know i never draw faces. facial anatomy is difficult for me, especially noses.  so i've been practicing a lot.

question about coloring:  i tried to color this by using cel-shading on it, and it came out terrible. is there any sort of shading method i can use that will allow me to blend colors more and make them softer? i know photoshop has soft-shading methods, but i have no idea how to do that =/
also, i prefer drawing in flash to photoshop, because flash has the line-correction thing.

can anyone offer help?
oh yeah, and here's the pic. sorry it looks like she has down syndrome D:

what the fuck underware soccer aka hentai
oh whatever she has a nice bum

Quote from: Sashuraalso, i prefer drawing in flash to photoshop, because flash has the line-correction thing.

Did you tried to adjust the "smoothing" on the brush? Because lowering it down gives you more control with the brush.

what if you did the line art in flash and colored it in photoshop

i'm not too sure what you're asking actually

Quote from: Jeinuwhat if you did the line art in flash and colored it in photoshop

i'm not too sure what you're asking actually

i tried doing that, but everytime i copy+paste my line art into photoshop it comes out looking all pixelated and shitty. idk why =(

Quote from: Sashurai saw someone mention "fisheye" in another thread, so i thought i would give it a shot.

this is a girl playing soccer. why she has no pants, i do not know. i just omitted them for some reason. whatever, people play soccer in their underwear, right? in japan??

so here's my first attempt at fisheye, drawn in flash. i didn't use the "fisheye filter and trace" technique because my photoshop doesn't have a fisheye filter, so i drew this freehand. but i did use another picture as a reference. i had A LOT of trouble with this. =P
i don't feel great about this piece, but i think it came out alright for my first time =/

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Dam she got a nic lil ass

Quote from: Sashurai saw someone mention "fisheye" in another thread, so i thought i would give it a shot.

this is a girl playing soccer. why she has no pants, i do not know. i just omitted them for some reason. whatever, people play soccer in their underwear, right? in japan??

so here's my first attempt at fisheye, drawn in flash. i didn't use the "fisheye filter and trace" technique because my photoshop doesn't have a fisheye filter, so i drew this freehand. but i did use another picture as a reference. i had A LOT of trouble with this. =P
i don't feel great about this piece, but i think it came out alright for my first time =/

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Dam she got a nic lil ass

Quote from: Sashurai tried doing that, but everytime i copy+paste my line art into photoshop it comes out looking all pixelated and shitty. idk why =(

yeah, copy-pasting isn't going to work

you need to export it as a PNG, so when you've got your lineart down, go to FILE>EXPORT>EXPORT IMAGE... save it as a PNG, match the screen dimensions when the window pops up (select 'match screen' and include 'full document size', etc). then just uh, open it up in photoshop

and that should do it

ta-dah

Quote from: Jeinu

Quote from: Sashurai tried doing that, but everytime i copy+paste my line art into photoshop it comes out looking all pixelated and shitty. idk why =(

yeah, copy-pasting isn't going to work

you need to export it as a PNG, so when you've got your lineart down, go to FILE>EXPORT>EXPORT IMAGE... save it as a PNG, match the screen dimensions when the window pops up (select 'match screen' and include 'full document size', etc). then just uh, open it up in photoshop

and that should do it

ta-dah

i know how to do that, but the problem is that whenever i save it as a .png and open it up in photoshop, the lines that i drew are part of the background and not on a separate layer. so it's a hassle when i cel-shade because it means that all the lines are going to appear underneath the color, which is not what i want =[

Quote from: Sashurai know how to do that, but the problem is that whenever i save it as a .png and open it up in photoshop, the lines that i drew are part of the background and not on a separate layer. so it's a hassle when i cel-shade because it means that all the lines are going to appear underneath the color, which is not what i want =[

ah, i think i forgot a part: try saving it with the 'colors' option as '24 bit with alpha channel' when the export PNG window pops up. that should save only the line art and not any of the background

Quote from: Jeinu

Quote from: Sashurai know how to do that, but the problem is that whenever i save it as a .png and open it up in photoshop, the lines that i drew are part of the background and not on a separate layer. so it's a hassle when i cel-shade because it means that all the lines are going to appear underneath the color, which is not what i want =[

ah, i think i forgot a part: try saving it with the 'colors' option as '24 bit with alpha channel' when the export PNG window pops up. that should save only the line art and not any of the background

holy shit!!!! YES!! thank you!!! this is exactly what i was looking for!!

Quote from: Sashuraholy shit!!!! YES!! thank you!!! this is exactly what i was looking for!!

quite welcome

You has beautiful arts. I enjoy seeing them.

Quote from: FuzzYou has beautiful arts.

congratulation your ban level is now on 100% whatever that means


don't you ever learn or something

Quote from: FuzzYou has beautiful arts. I enjoy seeing them.

thank you! =)

okay, here's another thing i did in flash
the violin was a bitch to draw. so were the hands. i had to use my own violin as a model so i could get it right. it looks kinda messed up tho i don't know what i should do to fix it =/

i hope this drawing doesn't look as stiff as all the others!
i took jeinu's advice and exported it as a .png with no background. i might spruce this up in photoshop.

whoa. 500th post =o

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wow sasha that last one is nice
could you use some shading tho

i think the right hand might be a teeeeny bit longer than the other but its ok

did you trace the violin or what

Quote from: NoneZopwow sasha that last one is nice


did you trace the violin or what

no i didn't, which is why it came kinda shitty imo. notice how the right side of the violin is way wider than the left =/
i really need to fix that part. but im happy with how the guy came out =)

its nic

Quote from: Belief

Quote from: FuzzYou has beautiful arts.

congratulation your ban level is now on 100% whatever that means


don't you ever learn or something

Of course. I just refuse to do what everyone here wants me too. Nobody here ever seemed to like me in the first place so I just do whatever I feel like with little regard for what comes of it.

I think the Violinist looks fine, but it looks like there's a bit of his nose missing. The shading thing too...

new pic: rapist

i finally learned how to use the pen sensitivity on my tablet. i like how this came out. it looks much different than my previous stuff. i tried something slightly different with this pic. i'm still trying to settle on a definite style :/

this is definitely unfinished. im not sure if i want to add hair or a hat. suggestions?


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Pretty good!
Aside from ears and a nose, I'd probably put a hat over some ruffled hair or something I dunno

id say short scruffy hair and maybe scar him, looks good so far!

blue hair and a schoolgirl outfit

Quote from: Sashuranew pic: rapist

i finally learned how to use the pen sensitivity on my tablet. i like how this came out. it looks much different than my previous stuff. i tried something slightly different with this pic. i'm still trying to settle on a definite style :/

this is definitely unfinished. im not sure if i want to add hair or a hat. suggestions?

Love the lineart but the lines you've used for the neck are a bit thick.

I think a trilby would look pretty bitchin if it's a guy you're drawing

For some reason i think flat/rudimentary colours (ie no shading) would suit your stuff HOWEVER if you're gonna do that then be careful what colours you pick, otherwise it'll look garish and not very smart at all yo.

keep it up!!  and borrow me your tablet sometime  

i think you should erase the head and the neck outlines and start with some hair to come up with a more fitting head shape

I said i would do a picture of Redm, and here it is!

it's unfinished. i HAD a colored version, but flash quit unexpectedly so i lost it all. You can see i colored the eye and that's about it. so im in the process of recoloring. im just putting up what i have right now. i do plan on finishing it. advice? criticism? I hope you like it red. I was afraid that it would come out looking to pointy/anime/indiana jones.

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Pretty alright but the right eye seems like its not there.
At all.
Put like, some more hair in the way so it seems like the eye is being covered up.
Or just draw a part of the eye so it shows that its there.

Quote from: J_SeedPretty alright but the right eye seems like its not there.
At all.
Put like, some more hair in the way so it seems like the eye is being covered up.
Or just draw a part of the eye so it shows that its there.

ok

oh and btw, flash crashed AGAIN. i think i have too many programs open at once. w/e im too pissed off to finish it now.

You should really torrent something like photoshop or try to get Art Rage for your mac or something.
Flash crashes alot, especially CS4.

sasha that looks awesome thank you

dont give up! make the hat red and leave the rest it will look super cool

now i wanna do a drawing of red
oooh boy

draw a picture of redm and recieve ultra VIP tba validation

Quote from: Sashurapic

hmm the mouth and nose are kinda bugging me. He has a manly chin but a very feminine nose, and his mouth seems a bit small.

really nice lines though.

mmyeah im really not liking how this one is coming out. i really hate drawing faces. i like to practice faces, but i think im much better with bodies. :/

ugh OKAY. flash is giving me problems so fuck it. im getting too pissed with flash at the moment >:C
here's a new pic of red, that i drew in 2 sec. UGH. FUCK GETTING VALIDATED.
 

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Quote from: Sashuraugh OKAY. flash is giving me problems so fuck it. im getting too pissed with flash at the moment >:C
here's a new pic of red, that i drew in 2 sec. UGH. FUCK GETTING VALIDATED.

Haha thats awesome

what smoothing you using Sash?

Quote from: lenkabisca

Quote from: Sashuraugh OKAY. flash is giving me problems so fuck it. im getting too pissed with flash at the moment >:C
here's a new pic of red, that i drew in 2 sec. UGH. FUCK GETTING VALIDATED.

Haha thats awesome

what smoothing you using Sash?

thank you. i usually use 30, but for this one i used 50

btw, here's the new and improved rapist picture. i took all of your suggestions: disheveled hair, nose, ears, a scar, and i fixed the neck
ANY MORE?

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Looking very good now that everything has been put together.

ears are a bit big, they should roughly go from the top of the eye to the bottom of the nose and they go well past that

great pic otherwise. color it

He still looks a little too feminine for a rapist but nice work all the same, now colour this bitch!

Quote from: AshingtonHe still looks a little too feminine for a rapist but nice work all the same, now colour this bitch!

hmmm maybe some five o' clock shadow would help?

The hair in the middle looks slightly strange, but that's probably just me.
Great pic though, good job

i wouldn't bother outlining his adam's apple or whatever

very well done! the first ones were very nice. i think you got the, how do you say that, the proportions uhh under control (my english sucks)...
but when i looked further i seemed that your style is very influenced by anime, i can tell by the eyes.
try drawing the eyes a different way, and study real pictures of eyes of something.
but then again what do i know im just a noob, i mean just look at my postcount

Quote from: Sashura

Quote from: AshingtonHe still looks a little too feminine for a rapist but nice work all the same, now colour this bitch!

hmmm maybe some five o' clock shadow would help?

prehaps, i personally don't think anime looking characters make good sinister people, something about how they're done just doesn't make them look intimidating in my eyes.

lmao Sasha that is a beautiful drawing of red. He looks so happy.

I think there should be more sasha/salutations hentai happening fo sho
 

ilu

Hhhm, some neat stuff. Last weekend I wiped out my hard drive and now my tablet works, pretty fun, neat, awesome, still not used to it yet, and last night I drew something incredibly mind fucking amazing and flash crashed. I was fucking livid.

Quote from: SnawsBallHhhm, some neat stuff. Last weekend I wiped out my hard drive and now my tablet works, pretty fun, neat, awesome, still not used to it yet, and last night I drew something incredibly mind fucking amazing and flash crashed. I was fucking livid.

cool drawing anyway me me me me me me

^lmfao

Quote from: rtil

Quote from: SnawsBallHhhm, some neat stuff. Last weekend I wiped out my hard drive and now my tablet works, pretty fun, neat, awesome, still not used to it yet, and last night I drew something incredibly mind fucking amazing and flash crashed. I was fucking livid.

cool drawing anyway me me me me me me

god you have no idea how hard i laughed at that

anyway, here's a new picture i drew today! im DEFINITELY gonna color and shade this one, but i would like some advice and feedback before i do.

Rape victim #1:

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missing a nose an ears
Something about the hair is iffy, but you could probably fix all this up when you color it
Also shes a bit stiff in the shoulders
also: rape

taking everyone's advice in the irc, here is the 2nd version of the picture

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the weird lines are outlines for shadows. i'm gonna redo them and color them in, don't worry, but for now, i just need advice on her basic form and outline.

idk what to do about her clothing

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I think it came out well
Although the nose still looks sorta weird for me, the coloring is nice ya
Add a background or shadow.

add beads of sweat and bruises

And  despairing look on her face and a dead look in her eyes and cuts and

i would pick a lighter tone for the shading of the clothes, and i'd use something with a hint of blue in it. i'd also only use a single tone for the shading, and if you want variation use a gradient. when you use more than two as you have here it gets very complicated because of the nature of vectors. in reality, the darkest tone of anything that has roundness to it is closer to where the shadow meets the light as opposed to the edge of the object.

below is a poor example of what i am talking about
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in either case, i think a gradient would be better suited. gradients can express dimensionality a lot easier than what are essentially shapes of color

ok! i've never thought of using gradients for shading before, i've always just used cel-shading, but that sounds pretty cool  ima try it

well it's still technically cel shading

bondage anime rape, cool

nah, i like the way the picture came out, its nicely colored too

hot

i was about to say something,but then rtil said what he said and i think i couldnt add anything to that so take his advice.

Other than that: really nice drawing!! keep it up

sashura you're pretty good actually but i dont know why you always draw naked or half naked girls

Quote from: taylorsashura you're pretty good actually but i dont know why you always draw naked or half naked girls

Cos its what the tba crew loves to see!

Quote from: lenkabisca

Quote from: taylorsashura you're pretty good actually but i dont know why you always draw naked or half naked girls

Cos its what the tba crew loves to see!

cause its all she ever thinks about

:*

so here's a little walking cycle that i created today.

http://spamtheweb.com/ul/upload/050209/78407_womaaaaan.php (http://spamtheweb.com/ul/upload/050209/78407_womaaaaan.php)

i know it isn't much, but i tried    
i wanted to give the girl a lot of 'movement'. i know her bouncing hair and boobies may be a tad exaggerated,  i had so much fun drawing them

some advice would be great. i made a few other movement cycles, but they're too choppy.
er, so yeah that's about it. any advice for making it look less shitty?
thanks

it's really good, but i wouldn't make the breasts flippity flop like that

but it's exaggerated well so w/e

the boobs would be less distracting if the shoulders were going up and down with each step, that's what they would be doing to counteract the motion of her hips

i did another drawing. i was gonna draw more battered women/rape victims, but i guess i creeped people out, so here's a picture of the opposite. a girl that will fuck bitches up >:C
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i'll do cell-shading and add more textures later

draw an old fat man

Quote from: mr. sweaty assdraw an old fat man

haha why? you need me to prove that i can draw other things besides young women? :p

well, i can draw fat people, and i can draw guys, but i've actually never attempted to draw old people. their skin is so saggy and wrinkly. i think it would be really difficult, but i can try!

I'm the opposite really

As for the walk cycle aside from what rtil said I guess, lighting effects would probably take some attention to whatever flaws one may find.
I'm assuming that she's walkning on a red carpet, and usually there are tons of people taking pictures and whatnot, so the flashes of light reflecting off her face and blah blah blah would distract the viewers

well that was an impressive 4 pages

on the walk cycle make her boobies bounce less

Quote from: Sashurai did another drawing. i was gonna draw more battered women/rape victims, but i guess i creeped people out, so here's a picture of the opposite. a girl that will fuck bitches up >:C
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i'll do cell-shading and add more textures later

the beck is too long

the body is too far down and a bit long

the hips aren't wide enough

*neck

her torso isnt curvy enough it looks like a guy

her head is too centered and should be more to the left

why is it all of your pieces on your first page are good and show a sense of anatomy and this drawing completely throws all of that away

actually i think if she just moved the head down it would solve nearly all of those problem

Yeah I figured either she should move her head down or her body up

i dont really like the fact that shes wearing clothes you knowww

Quote from: Beliefi dont really like the fact that shes wearing clothes you knowww

yeah and she doesnt appear to have been sexually assaulted at all what the fuck

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The body structure on this one annoys me, it's short with a long neck. But that's an exception, I love your drawing style.  It's delicious turtles love bingo long time.

Quote from: taylorthe beck is too long

the body is too far down and a bit long

the hips aren't wide enough

*neck

her torso isnt curvy enough it looks like a guy

her head is too centered and should be more to the left

so i used to draw models from magazines and i would only focus on proportions of the body. i never drew faces. sometimes i didn't even draw heads. which is why a lot of my full-bodied characters usually don't have them. it's also why my style is very stiff, plain, and boring. i tried finding a style that suited me in the past, but the closest thing to what i was doing was anime. i drew anime for awhile, but i hated how androgynous and simple the characters looked so i tried to break away from that too. i guess i just need to keep drawing shit. i don't know what to do.

oh btw, more motion cycles are in the works. i'll try and finish them up this week and post them, but i have 2 midterms this week so idk. and the next motion cycle will have an old fat man  

Argh! Fuck Wacom! Goddamn mainstream tablets! People keep talking about it like it was the only kind of tablet on the entire market! Wacom's grossly overpriced shit! Not much more comfortable than a normal one, ten times as expensive (and not even half as big if you don't want to spend 500 bucks on it...) that shit only sells because it has a popular and common name...

I really like your style, tho...

Well drawing more is basically the best thing to do in your situation.
I can imagine that being a fashion designer wouldn't try to design clothes using disproportioned dummies.
I guess faces wouldn't really matter either considering that it's not what you were working on then.

But uh yeah just keep practicing

adding shading to that picture was like adding sprinkles to ice cream - 10000 times better

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thingy i drew in facebook graffiti. ugh sorry it looks kawaii anime

your other stuff is better

I think this is pretty good for a fun doodle

i like the girl in the red scarf. that pic's way cute

i'd like to see you take on:

-an old fat man
-a fat opera woman
-a nerd (boy or girl)
- some sorta animal i guess?
- a manly dude like erm i dunno captain falcon

Quote from: lenkabiscai like the girl in the red scarf. that pic's way cute

i'd like to see you take on:

-an old fat man
-a fat opera woman
-a nerd (boy or girl)
- some sorta animal i guess?
- a manly dude like erm i dunno captain falcon

behold, the male anatomy. like usual, im gonna do the shading and coloring later on. i was gonna put like a gun or something in his left hand, but i don't know how to draw guns freehand, so i need to practice that first. i know the hair and face look really bad. i'll fix these. im working on an animal and a fat lady right now. i can do the nerdy kid, but i really cannot draw old people :/
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that male guy is pretty good, i think the proportions are good, but its hard to tell cus i cant see his knees. but its good! his muscles are also right, its nice to see you trying something else!!

oh and i might give you tips on how to draw old people but you should try yourself first. it might seem hard but its really fun to draw all those wrinkels and details and aaaaaaa im gonna draw one right now