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Title: Blood & Snow
Post by: YungJazz on November 20, 2008 10:11 PM
New pic woot 5 hours. enjoy
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Title: Blood & Snow
Post by: rtil on November 20, 2008 11:11 PM
it definitely has a more lively look to it than your old line-tool stuf. good work
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Post by: sQueef on November 20, 2008 11:32 PM
Well now, I get low and I get high,
And if I cant get either, I really try.
Got the wings of heaven on my shoes.
Im a dancin man and I just cant lose.
You know its all right. its ok.
Ill live to see another day.
We can try to understand
The new york times effect on man.
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Post by: jjjjjjjjjj on November 20, 2008 11:41 PM
I like this one alot
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Post by: SnawsBall on November 21, 2008 12:26 AM
Pretty nice
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Post by: Daveb0t on November 21, 2008 12:55 AM
I like this one alot more than your other stuff because of the constant color feel of cold n shit. umm
Its a bit sloppier but I like it like that
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Post by: Fuzz on November 21, 2008 06:18 PM
Looks more "artsy".
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Post by: YungJazz on November 25, 2008 01:10 AM
thanks rtil and friends, you guys make me jizz rainbows  

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Post by: mishkamash on November 25, 2008 01:11 AM
well will ya check this out
pretty nice
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Post by: Michelle on November 25, 2008 01:49 AM
ghghg confusing poses
you should take notice so you can change it before finishing

anyway nice color choices it's pretty neat
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Post by: rtil on November 25, 2008 02:38 AM
her pose would make a good animation cel, but for a cel it's not refined enough. especially with all the busy background work
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Post by: texas on November 25, 2008 03:06 AM
i respect yungjazz as an artist now
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Post by: CoolDrMoney on November 25, 2008 03:56 AM
Quote from: YungJazzthanks rtil and friends, you guys make me jizz rainbows  

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Arent those the kinda swords that Kabal or Stryker had from Mortal Kombat or am I ?
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Post by: sQueef on November 25, 2008 04:13 PM
should have someone else do the graffiti for you

imo!!!
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Post by: rtil on November 25, 2008 05:02 PM
it doesn't even look like graffiti it just looks like a totally wacky font
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Post by: YungJazz on November 25, 2008 05:23 PM
Quote from: CoolDrMoneyArent those the kinda swords that Kabal or Stryker had from Mortal Kombat or am I ?

Yezzir, I think it was just Kabal that had em though. I doubt anybody's used them in some ancient Chinese war or something, but they popped into mind at the moment heh.
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Post by: texas on November 29, 2008 06:25 PM
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Post by: sQueef on November 29, 2008 07:27 PM
Quote from: rtilit doesn't even look like graffiti it just looks like a totally wacky font
fuck you it looks like some prick who sucks at graffiti co-opted a ton of shitty graffiti fads and slapped them together haphazardly and made this shit FUCK

YOU
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Post by: Daveb0t on November 29, 2008 07:32 PM
Grafitti is shit made by spics and stoners
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Post by: rtil on November 29, 2008 08:26 PM
Quote from: Squeef
Quote from: rtilit doesn't even look like graffiti it just looks like a totally wacky font
fuck you it looks like some prick who sucks at graffiti co-opted a ton of shitty graffiti fads and slapped them together haphazardly and made this shit FUCK

YOU
either way it's really bad

also drop the saying "FUCK YOU" in every post you're not sinister sry!
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Post by: sQueef on November 29, 2008 10:14 PM
umm   !

fuck you

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Post by: rtil on November 29, 2008 10:25 PM
no caps that's an improvement
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Post by: sQueef on November 30, 2008 01:24 AM
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Post by: Labusch on November 30, 2008 02:48 AM
Quote from: rtilno caps that's an improvement
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Post by: Ying on November 30, 2008 02:35 PM
why did you use the line tool to draw your characters in the first place?
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Post by: YungJazz on December 1, 2008 04:48 AM
i liked thin, crisp lines. now i want my stuff to look more stylized though, so i'm just doing whatever. and for some reason i feel like doing logos lately...

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Post by: Labusch on December 1, 2008 04:49 AM
Quote from: YungJazzi liked thin, crisp lines. now i want my stuff to look more stylized though, so i'm just doing whatever. and for some reason i feel like doing logos lately...

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SHIT Jazz thats awsome did you use Fireworks
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Post by: YungJazz on December 1, 2008 04:50 AM
thanks. nah, it's flash.
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Post by: Labusch on December 1, 2008 04:51 AM
Quote from: YungJazzthanks. nah, it's flash.


I take it you drew it in Flash and then exported it as a Jpeg you wouldn't know how to turn on a Wacom Graphire 3 would you
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Post by: YungJazz on December 1, 2008 04:54 AM
nope, i do this.

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Title: Blood & Snow
Post by: Labusch on December 1, 2008 04:56 AM
Quote from: YungJazznope, i do this.

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yeah I've tryed drawing with a mouse and a tablet but I can't draw shit and I either draw the bodies or faces to big and then it takes over the 500 x 400 flash
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Post by: sQueef on December 1, 2008 05:16 AM
you need do work on yout logos

< need do stop using this joke from some bad review
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Post by: MRat on December 1, 2008 05:19 AM
ursula andress
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Post by: YungJazz on December 1, 2008 05:21 AM
Quote from: Squeefyou need do work on yout logos

specify, maybe?
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Post by: sQueef on December 1, 2008 08:34 AM
Well firstly I would like to say that your logos are always very sloppy. I'm not suggesting you try using any other methods or tools but I am suggesting you spend more time making sure that the lines are clean, the backgrounds are clean, the gradients and strokes are all clean, any and all effects must be clean. Logo's aren't like characters you can't half-ass them in a sketch-tone and expect brilliant results, I wanted to mention making your linework cleaner first because not only is it the most important facet that you need to concentrate on, it will also become cyclical for you, in that if you focus on cleanliness and symmetry you will begin to notice vastly superior results already.

Secondly, I would like to point out your style choices. Judging from your SAMURAI LOGO, you like to use Arrows, you like to overlap letters, you like to use a curvy free-flowing style of lettering (all very basic observations to make me seem like I know what i'm talking about when really its just filler). Now this is all well and good if you are a master of style which clearly you aren't, not that I am either I'm just stating facts. Drop the arrows, nobody does fucking arrows, do you want all of your logos to look like Grinachi dropped by and took a huge shit on your logo before you send it out to various art dumps? Of course not! You have almost no balance in any of your letters, where are you getting this shit from, why does the S suddenly curve in on itself? It looks more like a retarded 8 than an S. You don't do any 3D effects either you just do a flat shitty drawing and slap some gradients on it, add some stroke and a stroke behind that stroke and voila! horseShit!

The U why is there a dot above the U.

The M almost looks like a good letter if it wasn't being space raped by the fucking A, i do like the style transition between the M and the U however thats not much redemption for you since overall it still looks very basic and boring. The M is also another one of your habits where you start a letter, and then midway through it decide "oh fuck symmetry!" and the other half doesn't even make sense in how it connects.

The Spider logo. Sure its fine to use logos in your logo thats all well and good, firstly I'd like to ask what the fuck a Spider has to do with a Samurai anyway, but historical inaccuracies aside, its O.k. In fact I'd say ditch the shit lettering and just stick to making that spider look badass, since the spider is at least clean. Did you use the line tool on the spider? It looks like it. The SUPER FATASS Stroke you got going on would be great if you had the stroke going off to one side, giving a 3D sort of "pop" to the piece but you don't you just have a flat layer of stroke behind a flat layer of shit lettering.

Now it ALMOST seems like you are trying to emulate graffiti, this could be totally false and just the way i'm perceiving it, if so then so be it I don't really care. However, if you are going to emulate graffiti and if that is the desired effect, then do it right. Observe the way the letters connect in your favorite local pieces, and take in what makes what letters pop and what makes the piece as a whole really stand out.

Now if you are going to go off blaming your "add" again then you can get fucked because ADD isn't even a real fucking syndrome, I've been diagnosed with ADHD and guess what I can keep my attention on a fucking .fla for more than 5 hours straight. I've also been diagnosed as "suicidally depressed" and I'm still breathin aren't I!!!!!!!!!!! Doctors are horseSHIT liars that want to steal your money and women............ do not trust them..................................................



I hope I've managed to help you in some small way. Now go off into the world and do as you please.
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Post by: YungJazz on December 1, 2008 06:42 PM
damn, i will never say the word "specify" around you again lol. i'll work on it, and the ADD blame is a joke.
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Post by: rtil on December 1, 2008 08:27 PM
Quote from: YungJazzthe ADD blame is a joke.
well it's not very funny
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Post by: YungJazz on December 1, 2008 10:19 PM
Quote from: rtil
Quote from: YungJazzthe ADD blame is a joke.
well it's not very funny

It is to me, that's all that matters  
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Post by: sQueef on December 2, 2008 12:24 AM
Well you'll be getting used to a tablet now and I would expect even better results that is if you aren't more accustomed to using a mouse then a pencil by this point.

I know you ditched Pencil tool for characters, and that's fine, but perhaps you should stick to pencil tool or line tool for logo work. If you want cleaner logos that is!
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Post by: rtil on December 2, 2008 08:59 AM
convert lines to fills
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Post by: Loathsome on December 4, 2008 09:13 PM
Quote from: SqueefLogo's aren't like characters you can't half-ass them in a sketch-tone and expect brilliant results

I hope you don't mean that you can halfass characters and make them look good. Cause if so, I strongly disagree. Characters needs as much planning as everything else.
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Post by: sQueef on December 5, 2008 02:10 AM
i didn't mean half-ass the character concept, I meant the technique used to draw them. You can get relly neat looken characters by being sketchy and erratic, hey kina like gestural drawing@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

but your logos are gona look gay as hell unless you are doing graffiti shit if you do it all loose an erratic lik dat ok!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: InsaneX on December 5, 2008 03:59 PM
Quote from: YungJazzi liked thin, crisp lines. now i want my stuff to look more stylized though, so i'm just doing whatever. and for some reason i feel like doing logos lately...

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all i can make out is a fucking S, U and R and a fucking SPIDER OR SOMETHING

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Post by: Loathsome on December 5, 2008 05:42 PM
it says samurai
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Post by: sQueef on December 6, 2008 12:16 AM
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Post by: mishkamash on December 6, 2008 03:24 PM
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Post by: YungJazz on December 10, 2008 05:23 AM
PLAAAAAAY BAAAAWWWL

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Post by: CoolDrMoney on December 11, 2008 04:39 PM
That aint bad! Grinace pants are a nice touch!