thebackalleys

wikiflash will be coming to thebackalleys sometime this summer. however, we need a new name for it. because there is a site called flashwiki.net, and i'm not sure i want the names to be so close. they have around 400 articles, but the content and the design of the site is nothing like what i have planned for the flash community. i have much bigger plans than these people do, and i have ideas for more organized templates.

which also reminds me, i need help developing it and getting it ready to introduce to the community. do any of you have any knowledge on wiki software, or know someone who does and would be willing to help me? it's a tough job doing it alone on top of my personal projects and commissions.

I have some ideas for names

Wikimation
AnimationWiki
Flashopedia
Flashasaurus
Flashinary

I might be able to help ya. I think my friends knows about it, we had a wiki for our site and such. Ill get back to ya on that.

As for the name...how about .SWikiF. Get it? SWF? SwikiF?...or I can shut the fuck up

I think an acronym is a good idea for a name, it would correspond with your name "rtil" whatever the hell that means.

Quote from: DagolithI think an acronym is a good idea for a name, it would correspond with your name "rtil" whatever the hell that means.

it has been said that anyone who tries to figure out rtil's name

dies

we were trying for a wail, but he wouldn't budge.

I like that Flashasaurus suggestion made by Anigen.

Like I said in your journal once upon a time ago, I have some experience with the MediaWiki software, so I'd be able to offer some help with running it.

are we going to have a poll for the names too

wikimation and SWikiF sound great to me so far. flashasaurus is cool but the name is too playful.

the aim for flashasaurus was like "flash + thesaurus" not like "flash + suffix for dinosaurs"

but im glad yer considering wikimation  

Like I said before I'll volunteer with helping out with the Wiki. I'm not sure of how much help I can provide, but I've edited some Wiki pages before, yes I'm very juvenile, so I'm a bit familiar with the code and then I know some HTML which is basic anyways. What areas would you need help with exactly?

Quote from: Anigenthe aim for flashasaurus was like "flash + thesaurus" not like "flash + suffix for dinosaurs"

but im glad yer considering wikimation  

OH MEH GAWD! flashasaurus REX! WEE'S ALL GONNA DIE!!

Aaah. Yeah, I suppose Flashasaurus does sound a little childish (as proven in the post above), Wikimation is cool too, I guess.

swikif kind of reminds me of zwickel

wikination sounds alright to me.  lol, for once I'm stumped on trying to name something...

wikiFedia? =P

lmao, those don't sound flash related at all rain

Gah, the first was a misspell though.  I was talking about favouring the wikimation one from before. =P

hsalfikiw? XD

FlashWiki is a joke. Only half of the site actually has anything to do with flash (and it's pretty easy to say that the guy who made the site probably knows nothing about flash or what it was originated for). The rest of what's left (which is actually a lot) is all based around overrated pricks like LegendaryFrog and bbs mods/faggots (difference?) that do nothing aside from sit on ng all day and close topics made by faggots who want people to make movies using their scripts. really who gives a fuck about ng mods?

since the idea for "flash wiki db" has already been taken, forget stupid shit that came from me like flashasaurus. I say go and make a wiki about animation that isnt just talking about stupid faggots from the internet who in the case of most of them can't animate or are overrated in the end. out of the ideas for names i listed in my first reply to yer topic, i say wikimation is the only one i like because it actually matters and will give material to people who really want to learn the traditional/graphic art of animation, not just some faggots from newgrounds who want to be popular. my suggestion to ya is make it all about animation and just make flash a subcategory or something

this is your project so im just trying to shell out some ideas for yeh

Yet the Flash program is also used by some who do not wish to animate their work, but just rather it as their prefered paint program?  Instead of Photoshop and such.

Flash was originally designed for web graphics, not animation. Animation was just considered an extra added 'bonus'. Nowadays instead of seeing the internet for what it is and what it likes, adobe still makes flash for web graphics. That is why each flash going up from 7 in animation is barely different aside from exports and filters.

But I commonly use flash as my drawing program as well because I'm not really that good with photoshop anyway. Aside from that I only see it as an animation tool, I never even bother with actionscript and trying to use it for web design etc etc etc

To me flash is only a tool, a wiki shouldn't be limited to it. A wiki should be broader in my opinion and has more coverage. Besides, once you cover flash essentially you're only covering what FlashWiki covers. If you cover animation and shit you're covering the good part of FlashWiki and a LOT more

i originally intended this to be specifically geared towards animators. while still artists are welcomed, they will not be allowed to make their own profile pages, and they won't have a lot of articles to gather infromation from. animation is enough in itself to dedicate a wiki to, and i have a lot of ideas for the articles.

the flash community will only be a part of it. it's dedicated to animators in a  broad sense, whether or not they use the software. there will be pages dedicated to truly famous animators like Tex Avery and Chuck Jones, an extended history of animation and the way animation works.

Here is how I have laid out the site in terms of categories:

[–] WikiFlash
>[–] Animation
>>

• Animation tests
  >>
• Elements of animation
  >>
• Flash FAQ
  >>
• Flash animation
  >>
• History of animation
  >[–] Software
  >>
• Actionscript
  >>
• Plugins
  >>
• Resources
  >>
• Tools
  >>
• Versions
  >[–] World
  >>[–] Community
  >>>
• Collabs
  >>>
• Debate
  >>>
• Flash animators
  >>>
• Flash progammers
  >>>
• Voice actors
  >>[–] Exclusive
  >>>
• Albinoblacksheep
  >>>
• Thefriendsociety
  >>[–] Portals
  >>>
• Deviantart
  >>>
• Flashportal
  >>>
• Newgrounds
  >>>
• Phrozenflame
  >>>
• Sheezyart
  >>>
• Ugoplayer
  
  This should be enough to chew for a start of a website. each category or subcategory can hold an unlimited amount of articles. sound adequate?
  
  also, wikimation is probably my choice for new name.
  
  although wikimation is being used by two other sites, but they're not copyrighted. so neither is the name. we'll just become the most popular one, then.

Seems like a solid layout for the wiki content.
And the good thing about Wiki is that you can add more categories to it, and cross link articles to multiple categories.

Haha, makes me wish I had the motivation to animate.

ahahah you chose mine?

awesome dude, yeah i think its a lot better to make a page about Chuck Jones than to make a page about LegendaryFrog

Shame you guys weren't making a wiki about Photoshop.  At least I'd have have been of some help. =P

Edit: so will you be doing research/making pages for animators from the anime/game side of things?

all animators from any practice , yes.

except in the case of wonchop which is slap your dick against the keyboard and make whatever comes to mind

Awesome.

So there's a possibility that you'll even cover animated works, on a name to name detailed basis?  If that was so, this project would open up to an encyclopaedia on shows as well as the animators behind them.  And what about still artists that the animators rely on, for their creative designs and such?

i already plan to cover animated works and famous animators. not full casts.
if the artist is significant in the world or industry, i'd like them to have a page.
keep in mind animators do a lot of still work as well.

I'm aware of that.  I was just saying that in some cases, an illustrator's work is brought to life through an animator's partnership.

everybody stand back i think it's high time i lock this topic with my cool mod powers

OH WAIT THEY DONT EXIST

Why?  There's no fire around here.  There might even be some latecomers with names.

na i was just playing

I'd say macropedia, but flash is now owned by adobe so it's kind of gay!

Quote from: Anigenna i was just playing

he not even a mod  

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na i was just playing

he not even a mod  

thanks to you pricko

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na i was just playing

he not even a mod  

thanks to you pricko

I wouldn't want Anigen to be a mod. Not because he wouldn't do a good job, I like Anigen and I'd trust him, but he wouldn't stop gloating about being a mod here.

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na i was just playing

he not even a mod  

thanks to you pricko

I wouldn't want Anigen to be a mod. Not because he wouldn't do a good job, I like Anigen and I'd trust him, but he wouldn't stop gloating about being a mod here.

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na i was just playing

he not even a mod  

thanks to you pricko

I wouldn't want Anigen to be a mod. Not because he wouldn't do a good job, I like Anigen and I'd trust him, but he wouldn't stop gloating about being a mod here.

that is bullshit. i dont care about being a mod on any of the other forums people made me a mod on

lmao i love how you force the whole "anigen likes to suck rtil's dick" thing i think this is a decoy to avert the shame you have for doing it yourself when you liked him

haha ya, it's funnier still how you've done that kind of thing more than anyone on this forum has. and you've only been here for a month or so, i guess your just an over achiever.

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na i was just playing

he not even a mod  

thanks to you pricko

I wouldn't want Anigen to be a mod. Not because he wouldn't do a good job, I like Anigen and I'd trust him, but he wouldn't stop gloating about being a mod here.

that is bullshit. i dont care about being a mod on any of the other forums people made me a mod on

lmao i love how you force the whole "anigen likes to suck rtil's dick" thing i think this is a decoy to avert the shame you have for doing it yourself when you liked him

I wasn't the one to bother him on skype, call him during worms games, calling him on the mobile phone and sending him text messages.

ok, i never 'bother' him on skype considering he's never on in the first place.

next, i never call him during worms games, what would be the point considering I'm playing with him

stay out of my fucking business on the text things. if you hate him so much then don't speak for him. im not constantly texting him, only on certain occasions, and if he truly minded this he'd tell me himself.

just because i value him as a friend i dont get why all of you are like "oh anigen sucks his dick haHAHAHAAH". i mean psi you stopped liking him for the gayest fucking reason I have ever heard, being "he didnt give me all the attention i craved from him on aim"

Quote from: Anigenok, i never 'bother' him on skype considering he's never on in the first place.

next, i never call him during worms games, what would be the point considering I'm playing with him

stay out of my fucking business on the text things. if you hate him so much then don't speak for him. im not constantly texting him, only on certain occasions, and if he truly minded this he'd tell me himself.

just because i value him as a friend i dont get why all of you are like "oh anigen sucks his dick haHAHAHAAH". i mean psi you stopped liking him for the gayest fucking reason I have ever heard, being "he didnt give me all the attention i craved from him on aim"

Now tell me who is more obsessed, you or me.

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ok, i never 'bother' him on skype considering he's never on in the first place.

next, i never call him during worms games, what would be the point considering I'm playing with him

stay out of my fucking business on the text things. if you hate him so much then don't speak for him. im not constantly texting him, only on certain occasions, and if he truly minded this he'd tell me himself.

just because i value him as a friend i dont get why all of you are like "oh anigen sucks his dick haHAHAHAAH". i mean psi you stopped liking him for the gayest fucking reason I have ever heard, being "he didnt give me all the attention i craved from him on aim"

Now tell me who is more obsessed, you or me.

does anyone here not see you for what an asshole you are

uhhh, you said that wrong; you implied that we all see him as an asshole, instead of "does anyone else see you for the asshole that you are". what you said made no sense.

And no i don't think any thinks he's an asshole, were a very outspoken forum. if someone thought poorly of someone else, they'd let em know.

Besides, your the one having a hissyfit and attacking him personally instead of trying to prove him wrong, or at least giving up and laughing it off.

Quote from: DagolithBesides, your the one having a hissyfit and attacking him personally instead of trying to prove him wrong, or at least giving up and laughing it off.

Pretty much what I was aiming for. I wanted to know if he reacts cool or spasts out. It sadly was the spassing out part.

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Quote from: DagolithBesides, your the one having a hissyfit and attacking him personally instead of trying to prove him wrong, or at least giving up and laughing it off.

Pretty much what I was aiming for. I wanted to know if he reacts cool or spasts out. It sadly was the spassing out part.

na im kidding nigga

sure

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Quote from: DagolithBesides, your the one having a hissyfit and attacking him personally instead of trying to prove him wrong, or at least giving up and laughing it off.

Pretty much what I was aiming for. I wanted to know if he reacts cool or spasts out. It sadly was the spassing out part.

na im kidding nigga

writing three paragraphs of anger every time psi43 makes a sentence doesn't qualify as kidding

haha way to blow it off we're all convinced

yes i am so cool they don't suspect a thing

solo tango

Here's the angry letter Anigen knew he was bound to receive. To organize my discussion, I suggest that we take one step back in the causal chain and investigate the development of unilateralism as a concept. There are two kinds of people in this world. There are those who impact public policy for years to come, and there are those who give him a rhadamanthine warning not to feed us ever-larger doses of his lies and crackpot assumptions. Anigen fits neatly into the former category, of course. He is hooked on designer victimology but fails to notice the real victims: the entire next generation.

That's a very important point; Anigen's foot soldiers don't represent an ideology. They don't represent a legitimate political group of people. They're just flat resentful. It is disgraceful that, with a wink and a smile, Anigen has signified his approval of incorrigible dorks who perpetuate harmful stereotypes. Finally, any one of the points I made in this letter could be turned into a complete research paper, but the conclusion of each would be the same: Anigen has announced a number of postmodernist ideas on how to run -- or is that ruin? -- everyone's life.

wow, that was a long one.