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As far as I know, most art/animation private schools that cost $500000000000000 are bullshit.
But I do want to get into a public school, and learn actual basic construction of cartoon animation and etc.
What universities or colleges are there that make you learn how to animate/draw/etc that are public or at least don't cost me my fucking life to pay off?

Also: Do most of them require you to go to art classes and stuff in your high school?
I doubt it, but if so, disappointment all around, since everyone who do go to those classes are nothing but anime otakus who tries to copy Dragonball Z/Death Note/bleh.

:'(

EDIT: tl;dr What public schools are there that teach you how to draw cartoon construction and animation?

no art schools care about what you did in high school besides graduating

your portfolio is what's important

Quote from: rtilno art schools care about what you did in high school besides graduating

your portfolio is what's important

Ok, that's good.
Now I gotta find myself a good school that's not gonna put me in debt for the rest of my life.
Well, most of my life, but not all of it :/

don't do it don't go to art college

Quote from: J_SolidseedAlso: Do most of them require you to go to art classes and stuff in your high school?
I doubt it, but if so, disappointment all around, since everyone who do go to those classes are nothing but anime otakus who tries to copy Dragonball Z/Death N

You can always expect the anime people and the people who try to hard but
There's always a few people there that are incredibly talented and make you insecure.
It makes me regret not surgically attaching a pencil onto my hand and spending every waking minute drawing.
or actually trying to improve and experiment with uncomfortable territory rather than just doodling.

Quote from: J_SolidseedAs far as I know, most art/animation private schools that cost $500000000000000 are bullshit.
But I do want to get into a school, and learn actual basic construction of cartoon animation and etc.
What universities or colleges are there that make you learn how to animate/draw/etc that are public or at least don't cost me my fucking life to pay off?

http://www.allartschools.com/ (http://www.allartschools.com/)

could this possibly help?

Quote from: Squeefdon't do it don't go to art college

Don't worry I won't.
Gonna find myself a public college first.

Im fuckin pissed

I checked on my portfolio and all the work that was in there is gone
And I find my brothers stuff in there

I cant find my shit. Most of my strongest work was in there

Sorry to here that CDM.

no i mean dont get a job doing anything artistic it will suck the life out of it and you wont be creative get a job as a teacher thats the way to go twice the pay half the work

I know.
But I still want to find a college that has cartoon animation basic construction.
So I can improve and learn from a teacher, instead of reading John K's nazi blog all the time.

im john k I invented animation blablablablablabla

Quote from: rtilyour portfolio is what's important

Does sheezy count as one?

ahhaahhahahahaha

a portfolio is a collection of your best and most diverse works. you'd need to present it as prints in a folder. like a real folder you can hold in your hand and turn the pages, that kind of folder. although most schools will accept CD's with your work on it as a portfolio. that's what i did

Quote from: rtila portfolio is a collection of your best and most diverse works. you'd need to present it as prints in a folder. like a real folder you can hold in your hand and turn the pages, that kind of folder. although most schools will accept CD's with your work on it as a portfolio. that's what i did

Well thats cool. What did you put in it?
Like, realism stuff, cartoony stuff, anime, etc?

he put http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/310683 (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/310683) in it

no, i made those my first semester of school
if you\\\'d like to see what i put in my portfolio, check out this part of my dA gallery: http://rtil.deviantart.com/gallery/#_newest--8 (http://rtil.deviantart.com/gallery/#_newest--8)
everything with the word "portfolio" in the title was what i put in
there was actually no animation in my portfolio
all i had made at that point was the \\\'trix rabbit justice ad\\\' ahahhhhhhhoh god



or maybe i did put it in there

i don\\\'t remember

ahahahah i love the falling one and your dog

just a regular 2b pencil yo

one of them sakura brushes yo

Quote from: J_SolidseedAs far as I know, most art/animation private schools that cost $500000000000000 are bullshit.
But I do want to get into a public school, and learn actual basic construction of cartoon animation and etc.
What universities or colleges are there that make you learn how to animate/draw/etc that are public or at least don't cost me my fucking life to pay off?

this part depends on where you live and how far away from home you are planning on living

my expertise is california schools because i applied to a bunch here with your exact thoughts in mind. i know a few good colleges around here for what you're looking for. if you have great grades and writing ability, you can apply to UCLA, which is what i did. i got into the college of letters and sciences and spent my first 2 years completing all of my general education as an undeclared. this allowed me to take the graduate level animation courses as an undergraduate. i then applied and got accepted into the film major. if you want to go more of an art route, you can apply to the art school or the design and media arts major which they also have here. as far as price, its more expensive than other public schools but cheaper than the majority of private schools or art schools.

if you're looking for a less competitive public school in CA, i highly recommend san francisco state. its cheap, easy to get into, and has a pretty good film school with an animation program. there are also good community college programs and such throughout california if you want to go really cheap.

if you're looking outside of CA, talk to someone else  

Wow f0d, thanx for the great suggestions. I live in Texas, so it's not that far away. I'm trying to leave Texas anyways :P

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Hey, how is UCLA? So far, San Francisco State looks easy, cheap and has a film school AND animation class. Also, can you have 2 majors you are going for? And does animation school teach you construction, and slowly build you up to good really stuff?

Quote from: J_SolidseedHey, how is UCLA? So far, San Francisco State looks easy, cheap and has a film school AND animation class. Also, can you have 2 majors you are going for? And does animation school teach you construction, and slowly build you up to good really stuff?

you're right, san fran state is fairly easy and cheap even for out of state students. the animation class is a part of the film school, so you can get a film major with an emphasis in animation. i have no idea what their art program is like though, and you would still need to take 2 years of general education before applying to the major.

UCLA is definitely very different. its EXTREMELY competitive. ill put it this way, more people apply to UCLA than any other college in the country, but only around 23% get accepted. and thats just to the larger university. the film school is really tough... it's undergraduate program is rated number 1 in the country, every bit as competitive as USC and NYU. they accept 30 people per year, 15 transfers and 15 from within UCLA. if you're already a UCLA student, your chances of getting in are around 10%. if you're a transfer, its closer to 1%. that sounds discouraging but if you just say "fuck the statistics, im going for it" like i did, who knows things might work out. and in any case, you can still do animation even if you have another major. like i said, you could major in art or design and media arts and still take the animation courses no problem. they let anyone who is a UCLA student take them. they start out with absolute beginner material in the intro class... you don't need to be able to draw well, you just have to be willing to put in the work to make a 15 second film on pencil and paper. they then move on to more advanced stuff in the B and C class. ive already finished those, so they may even let me move on to the graduate 3D animation courses

the price at UCLA may be a problem for you though... it basically doubles for out of state students. its still around half as much as USC and even less if you live off campus, but im not gonna lie its expensive as fuck. as for 2 majors, they do not allow you to double major if you're in film. you'll have enough on your plate as it is. you can always minor in something else though

Quote from: f0dUCLA is definitely very different. its EXTREMELY competitive.

Well, I have a few choices in mind right now (Priority first):
University of Austin
San Francisco State
UCLA
Community college with animation somewhere in California

At least one of these four will have to take me in :(
I'm trying to find animation/film schools so not only I can animate, but make real movies as well. It'll be a lot of work, but I don't mind as long as I do all work stuff first. I really want to make movies, but some of my ideas and stories can only be shown in animation. Money won't be much of a problem for me, but getting into the school will. I'm about to graduate too :(:(:(

Also: what do you do f0d? Are you still in school or did you find a internship or what?

I decided to get a career as a teacher and just do art courses to help me get better but keep it as a hobby. My life goal is to get a PhD in something, anything, just so I can be like "Yeah im a Doctor bitch suck my fucen dick" basically.

Quote from: SqueefI decided to get a career as a teacher and just do art courses to help me get better but keep it as a hobby. My life goal is to get a PhD in something, anything, just so I can be like "Yeah im a Doctor bitch suck my fucen dick" basically.

If I was going to pick a career just for the PhD title, I'd go for something in relation to psychology.
I'd actually love to go to school for it, but I don't think I have the patience or money for ten years of schooling.

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Quote from: f0dUCLA is definitely very different. its EXTREMELY competitive.

Well, I have a few choices in mind right now (Priority first):
University of Austin
San Francisco State
UCLA
Community college with animation somewhere in California

i take it when you say "university of austin" you mean "university of texas at austin"
i read into it a little bit and i guess you can get a certificate in animation there as well as a film major. their film program is good. thats a nice option but not if you want to leave texas.
in terms of CA community colleges, i highly recommend checking out santa barbara city college and its "SOMA" program. the school itself is one of the best community colleges in the country in terms of transfers to UC schools. the campus is unbelievable, right by the beach and constantly a sunny and warm 70 degrees even in winter. having taken some of their film and animation classes i can tell you they are up to snuff, nearly as good as the stuff ive taken at ucla.

Quote from: J_SolidseedI'm trying to find animation/film schools so not only I can animate, but make real movies as well. It'll be a lot of work, but I don't mind as long as I do all work stuff first. I really want to make movies, but some of my ideas and stories can only be shown in animation. Money won't be much of a problem for me, but getting into the school will. I'm about to graduate too :(:(:(

san fran and ucla are PERFECT if you want to do live action in addition to animation. at both schools, your junior year will be spent doing live action production and your senior year will be spent doing animation

Quote from: J_SolidseedAlso: what do you do f0d? Are you still in school or did you find a internship or what?

i'm in my first year at the UCLA film school. so far its pretty cool. will get an internship eventually

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Quote from: SqueefI decided to get a career as a teacher and just do art courses to help me get better but keep it as a hobby. My life goal is to get a PhD in something, anything, just so I can be like "Yeah im a Doctor bitch suck my fucen dick" basically.

If I was going to pick a career just for the PhD title, I'd go for something in relation to psychology.
I'd actually love to go to school for it, but I don't think I have the patience or money for ten years of schooling.

I have much more interest in History and Philosophy than Psychology personally.

Oh man, these are great man. Thanks. Now at least I have a good idea on where to go.

lmao is your ava from aachi and ssipak

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Quote from: FrozenSheep

Quote from: SqueefI decided to get a career as a teacher and just do art courses to help me get better but keep it as a hobby. My life goal is to get a PhD in something, anything, just so I can be like "Yeah im a Doctor bitch suck my fucen dick" basically.

If I was going to pick a career just for the PhD title, I'd go for something in relation to psychology.
I'd actually love to go to school for it, but I don't think I have the patience or money for ten years of schooling.

Philosophy

This too. Anyway, good luck.
Keeping art as a hobby will probably be great since you will have more freedom with it but with a job you'll feel more accomplished. You are also forced to improve.

Quote from: rtillmao is your ava from aachi and ssipak

Rugrats, lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdwG7UHzPfM

Quote from: J_SolidseedOh man, these are great man. Thanks. Now at least I have a good idea on where to go.

good stuff, yea apply to all of them and at least one of them will work out.

for me back when i applied to colleges as a senior in high school, i had a REALLY tough decision to make. san francisco state not only accepted me, but gave me a full ride scholarship. UCLA accepted me, but didnt give me much money and had a much more competitive program with a slim chance of making it. i still ended up choosing UCLA because of the prestige, the alumnis, the connections in hollywood and such. everyone i talked to told me to go for my gut instinct regardless of what anyone else said. i cant even begin to tell you how hard it was to turn down that full ride, but im actually very glad i did in hindsight. right when i first got to UCLA, the workshop for the film major told me these exact words: "the odds of getting in are less than 10%, so basically don't get your hopes up, chances are you won't be accepted." that just made me want to work twice as hard as everyone else to actually get in, and it worked.

so just keep in mind when you're choosing where to go that money should never be an issue. choose the school that will best help you accomplish what you want to accomplish, then work your fucking ass off making movies and getting good grades so you really stand out when you apply to film. if you need to get a student loan, so be it.

and hell, if you really want, you could go to a community college for your first two years and simply transfer to san fran state or UCLA. its all up to you.

just keep this in mind: don't let anyone tell you its impossible or you cant do it, not even me. even if you don't get accepted, there are numerous other ways to get into the industry. it may not seem like it now but even these forums could end up acting as networking for your future career

oooooooooooooo num nums

Man f0d, thank you so much.
I don't mind getting a student load at all, even if it means working it off for a bomba clot load of time (hopefully, not my whole life). I just didn't want to go to those $50,000 film/animation schools, where most of them work for people instead of actually making their own films. I really want to do both film and animation, since I love both arts so much.  Even if I don't, I'll just be independent and make my own stuff like Robert Rodriguez or something.

bomba clot load

Quote from: f0dbomba clot load

lmao

Damn it rtil and your silly word filters

f0d\\\'s "speeches" were embarrassingly stupid. There are way better resources out there than this place, come on...

Anyways, I don\\\'t know too much about these colleges, but if anything, I recommend San Francisco State for animation and arts. I\\\'ve heard a lot about it corresponding with the animation programs and all.

Also, University of Austin at Texas would be good because their clock tower is the site of the 1966 massacre in which sniper Charles Whitman shot and killed fourteen before being shot by Austin police. That\\\'s a big part of history which would be nice to see from a modern-day view.

Quote from: rtillmao is your ava from aachi and ssipak

Wow...

Quote from: CyThf0d's "speeches" were embarrassingly stupid. There are way better resources out there than this place, come on...

yeah im sure the ronald rangers or barney bunch is a much better networking tool than tba

Quote from: f0d

Quote from: CyThf0d's "speeches" were embarrassingly stupid. There are way better resources out there than this place, come on...

yeah im sure the ronald rangers or barney bunch is a much better networking tool than tba

And you're comparing this place to a group defunct for over two years that I created when I was 12 intended for childish spamming?

Quote from: CyThf0d's "speeches" were embarrassingly stupid. There are way better resources out there than this place, come on...

I really can't think of anything else other than Collegeboard.com or TBA.
But I would rather ask TBA since they most likely have looked up the school and made sure it wasn't gonna be a shitty waste of money.

Quote from: CyThAlso, University of Austin at Texas would be good because their clock tower is the site of the 1966 massacre in which sniper Charles Whitman shot and killed fourteen before being shot by Austin police. That's a big part of history which would be nice to see from a modern-day view.

Oh ok nevermind what I said up above.

um I wouldn't take advice from mrblue

Quote from: Squeefum I wouldn't take advice from mrblue

yeah he is demented

Shut up. If you guys don't think history is interesting then that's your fault.

picking a school based on its history irrelevant to actual education is stupid

i cant tell when mr blue is being serious or not

but you can tell when he's being a failure which is all the time

What are you gay or something taking advice from a 14 year old fucking psycho in special-ed vs. taking advice from people who go to college and spent months researching and visiting colleges to scope them out, has nothing to do with a pursuit for historical knowledge an gggg fuck this.

Quote from: SqueefWhat are you gay or something taking advice from a 14 year old fucking psycho in special-ed vs. taking advice from people who go to college and spent months researching and visiting colleges to scope them out, has nothing to do with a pursuit for historical knowledge an gggg fuck this.

calm down boyo

Well yay!
I found out that I am able to actually get a FULL PAID grant for a comunitty collage for being the first person in my generation to go to college, so I'll being doing that! Just gotta keep a B average and not be a douche to the teachers.

After that, I may be going to either University of Austin or San Fransico State.

Also cyth, suck a dick

Quote from: SqueefWhat are you gay or something taking advice from a 14 year old fucking psycho in special-ed vs.

\
I'm 15
I'm not in special ed
I'm just giving out my opinion
Please go fucking shoot yourself in the head so I don't have to waste my time pulling the trigger, you worthless, pretentious piece of shit

Quote from: rtilpicking a school based on its history irrelevant to actual education is stupid

You idiot. I was never too serious with my opinion to begin with. I just thought it'd be interesting to live in a dorm on the same campus which had a shooting 40 years ago. I don't care too much about animation, I was giving out my opinion on what is interesting about it.

Ryan Miller, owner of the most biased and most hated online animation community on the web. Hope you're proud of that title, you scumbag.

Quote from: CyTh

Quote from: rtilpicking a school based on its history irrelevant to actual education is stupid

You idiot. I was never too serious with my opinion to begin with. I just thought it'd be interesting to live in a dorm on the same campus which had a shooting 40 years ago.

I go to a school where a kid once blew out his brains with a magnum pistol to the head about 15 years ago.
Woooooo. Fuuuuun. Yaaaaay. Blaaaaaaaah.
It's not interesting btw.

:/

Quote from: CyTh

Quote from: rtilpicking a school based on its history irrelevant to actual education is stupid

You idiot. I was never too serious with my opinion to begin with. I just thought it'd be interesting to live in a dorm on the same campus which had a shooting 40 years ago. I don't care too much about animation, I was giving out my opinion on what is interesting about it.

Ryan Miller, owner of the most biased and most hated online animation community on the web. Hope you're proud of that title, you scumbag.

i am proud of that title, thanks for being the first to coin it. i'll be sure to put it in my resume. could you write me a referral?

devils are dreaming of a blue angel

mr blue
please explain to me why you keep posting here

Quote from: morgan freemanmr blue
please explain to me why you keep posting here

Explain to me why you post here and I'll answer your question.

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Quote from: CyTh

Quote from: rtilpicking a school based on its history irrelevant to actual education is stupid

You idiot. I was never too serious with my opinion to begin with. I just thought it'd be interesting to live in a dorm on the same campus which had a shooting 40 years ago.

I go to a school where a kid once blew out his brains with a magnum pistol to the head about 15 years ago.
Woooooo. Fuuuuun. Yaaaaay. Blaaaaaaaah.
It's not interesting btw.

:/

You have to be kidding me. It happened 40 years, not 15. He didn't even shoot his brains out, he was shot by police. Obviously you're exaggerating or whatever and the history is interesting. I mean, they still hold memorial events on the anniversary of the shooting.

Im talking about my fucking high school I'm in.
Learn2read.

Also, why would I be in a University already if I'm asking where to go to?
Learn2usecommonfuckingsense.

l2stfu owned ahahah ahah ha

man im so funny  

havent used that one in awhile    

Quote from: J_SolidseedIm talking about my fucking high school I'm in.
Learn2read.

Also, why would I be in a University already if I'm asking where to go to?
Learn2usecommonfuckingsense.

ok, fine, you got me there. I read too fast and I was tired, so I took it as the Charles Whitman shooting...

Let me guess, you go to a high school called Richardson High School, where Jeremy Wade Delle shot himself in front a classroom, in which the Pearl Jam single "Jeremy" was based on.

Yes

i like that song

Quote from: CyTh

Quote from: morgan freemanmr blue
please explain to me why you keep posting here

Explain to me why you post here and I'll answer your question.

its kind of different for me considering
im not the one who keeps leaving then coming back and acting like hes just a typical user even hes disliked by a majority of the forum regulars
i would understand if you were trying to troll tba or something but stop posting things about your life and your interests

Quote from: f0di love that song

Quote from: morgan freeman

Quote from: CyTh

Quote from: morgan freemanmr blue
please explain to me why you keep posting here

Explain to me why you post here and I'll answer your question.

its kind of different for me considering
im not the one who keeps leaving then coming back and acting like hes just a typical user even hes disliked by a majority of the forum regulars
i would understand if you were trying to troll tba or something but stop posting things about your life and your interests

and don't you hate most of the people here?

no
i dont hate anyone here
i think some people are gay but i dont hate them

Quote from: morgan freemanno
i dont hate anyone here
i think some people are gay but i dont hate them

I meant blue.

oh ok whoops

I come here out of complete boredom. I don't act as the "typical member," I act as a person who knows he can enjoy a place where I'm disliked at by humoring myself. I wouldn't call it "trolling" but I just love posting stuff here that have you people confused. I'm also using this board to observe people like you, kind of like how a psychologist would observe a patient.

Quote from: CyThI come here out of complete boredom. I don't act as the "typical member," I act as a person who knows he can enjoy a place where I'm disliked at by humoring myself. I wouldn't call it "trolling" but I just love posting stuff here that have you people confused. I'm also using this board to observe people like you, kind of like how a psychologist would observe a patient.

i knew something fishy was goin' on

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Quote from: CyThI come here out of complete boredom. I don't act as the "typical member," I act as a person who knows he can enjoy a place where I'm disliked at by humoring myself. I wouldn't call it "trolling" but I just love posting stuff here that have you people confused. I'm also using this board to observe people like you, kind of like how a psychologist would observe a patient.

i knew something fishy was goin' on

which is?

im blue dabade dabadie

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Quote from: unconditionallyguarANTeed

Quote from: CyThI come here out of complete boredom. I don't act as the "typical member," I act as a person who knows he can enjoy a place where I'm disliked at by humoring myself. I wouldn't call it "trolling" but I just love posting stuff here that have you people confused. I'm also using this board to observe people like you, kind of like how a psychologist would observe a patient.

i knew something fishy was goin' on

which is?

uh maybe that you have a fuckin creepy mentally unstable stalker personality

Quote from: f0d

Quote from: CyTh

Quote from: unconditionallyguarANTeed

Quote from: CyThI come here out of complete boredom. I don't act as the "typical member," I act as a person who knows he can enjoy a place where I'm disliked at by humoring myself. I wouldn't call it "trolling" but I just love posting stuff here that have you people confused. I'm also using this board to observe people like you, kind of like how a psychologist would observe a patient.

i knew something fishy was goin' on

which is?

uh maybe that you have a fuckin creepy mentally unstable stalker personality

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Quote from: unconditionallyguarANTeed

Quote from: CyThI come here out of complete boredom. I don't act as the "typical member," I act as a person who knows he can enjoy a place where I'm disliked at by humoring myself. I wouldn't call it "trolling" but I just love posting stuff here that have you people confused. I'm also using this board to observe people like you, kind of like how a psychologist would observe a patient.

i knew something fishy was goin' on

which is?

uh maybe that you have a fuckin creepy mentally unstable stalker personality

Make up your mind. You were "oh  you're so annoying and fucking weird," and then "sorry I can't stay mad at you forever, I had a project that I was stressed with and I acted gay about it," and now more of the "you're fucking creepy."

CyTh,
We are sorry to say that you have been reported by one of Thebackalley members and the report has been accepted to be taken action to.
Expect a timely ban from the forums shortly.

Have a nice day!
-rtil & friends

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Quote from: CyTh"sorry I can't stay mad at you forever, I had a project that I was stressed with and I acted gay about it,"

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simple yet effective

I think this topic was originally about animation schools

I'm thinking of going to one with just a great film program too, so the top ones that I am right now considering are NYU (more film oriented), USC, and UCLA. Definitely going to a real University instead of a prestigious or specific art/animation school like CalArts is a much better option, at least to start out with. I'm thinking of going to UCLA for my undergrad, then possibly going to CalArts for my master's.

Also rtil is a scumbag who should be banned

yes notorious do it

do the same thing i did, i can give u a step by step surefire way to bullshit your way in. ill even send you my application essays and whatnot

Quote from: f0dyes notorious do it

do the same thing i did, i can give u a step by step surefire way to bullshit your way in. ill even send you my application essays and whatnot

send me a copy

Quote from: J_SolidseedAlso: Do most of them require you to go to art classes and stuff in your high school?
I doubt it, but if so, disappointment all around, since everyone who do go to those classes are nothing but anime otakus who tries to copy Dragonball Z/Death Note/bleh.

OMGosh wtf J-kunchansama anime I liek is hot sauce and you are mad just death note is too mature for you. Death not for adults the is best anime cause it make you smart. DBZ is awesome classic lan cube loooong time  

yungjazz has been brainwashed

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I just quit my animation school.

you punk ass

Quote from: RyanLeReipschlägerI just quit my animation school.

Which One?
Was it any good?

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Quote from: RyanLeReipschlägerI just quit my animation school.

Was it any good?

Probably wasn't, hence his reason to quit.

it was Sheridan college. it's a good school, i just don't want to be a professional animator. to much gay shit in the industry

become a philosophy professor like me ryan le rat!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: RyanLeReipschlägerit was Sheridan college. it's a good school, i just don't want to be a professional animator. to much gay shit in the industry

i don't really want to be a professional animator either to be honest. if working for the wrong people, it can be a thankless job.

i'd rather become a director of an animated show

just make sure you hire us all etc.

I may go to Sheridan.

If I learn French I'll apply to Les Gobelins...

you can't get into that school unless you're indigenous and know someone , forget it haha

Quote from: rtilyou can't get into that school unless you're indigenous and know someone , forget it haha

indigenous??


whatd u mean


cmon, it's possible

indigenous as in you were born and raised in that country

it's near impossible and definitely not worth your time . and you probably can't afford it, anyway. you'd also have to learn how to speak french

Oh you'r talkin bout Gobelins, I thought you were talking about Sheridan.

Well at least, no matter which school... I'm really dedicated so there's no problem.

It's mostly about what you give into your career .

Hey, have you even checked out Edinboro University outside of Erie, Pennsylvania? It may be a little far for you, but it's an awesome animation school and fucking CHEAP! I got accepted a few weeks ago for an animation degree and tuition is only $6000... Cheaper if you're a PA resident. LIKE ME! Anyway, very cheap school and the place BREEDS television animators. They teach you every type of mainstream animation and history of animation, teach you creative writing, video editing... etc... etc... etc... It's cool because once you're in your second year, they make you decide which type of animation you want to focus on for the rest of your college years... With others taking a backseat, just in case you want to know them too.  

Quote from: IxintroIt\\\'s cool because once you\\\'re in your second year, they make you decide which type of animation you want to focus on for the rest of your college years... With others taking a backseat, just in case you want to know them too.  

that sounds odd... why would they want to limit you to one medium of animation? who says you cant do traditional, experimental, stop motion, and computer animation all at the same time?

i guess its good to focus on one

but yeah there are probably tons of smaller animation colleges like that where you can get a comparable education for a much lower cost than a university

i just dont know where they are

Quote from: f0dthat sounds odd... why would they want to limit you to one medium of animation? who says you cant do traditional, experimental, stop motion, and computer animation all at the same time?

i guess its good to focus on one

but yeah there are probably tons of smaller animation colleges like that where you can get a comparable education for a much lower cost than a university

i just dont know where they are

I probably worded it weird but they pretty much let you learn whichever type best suits you. You have to do at least one project in every medium I think but they'd rather be having kids graduate who are really good at one thing instead of just okay at a lot of things.  For the type of school it is, it's RIDICULOUSLY cheap though.

Ok so im going to take community college here for 2 years and improve in my art
I looked into some things in Cal Arts and I heard things such as its "The harvard" of animation.

is paying like, 40k for 4 years REALLY worth it because it looks like a nice school but, yeesh.

I'm majoring in animation at a place called Columbia College which is a school in Chicago that's been working out pretty well for me. I'm going into my senior year this fall, but it's crazy expensive and I'm taking out quite a bit of lone money to pay for it all. Will it be worth it? Well hopefully. We'll see if I can get a job when I graduate.

CalArts is a great place because they have all the connections with the big studios like Pixar. Of course you can learn a lot in animation school too... I find that you get out of it what you put into it.

Quote from: R. Wappinyou get out of it what you put into it.

Ill see if I can raise money to go somewhere, because I dont know of any great schools here in Texas and the only studio I know is here is the guys who make Jimmy Neutron :/

Quote from: j_seedthe guys who make Jimmy Neutron :/

texas is gay

I'm doing community college art courses to stay on health insurance and maybe learn a thing or two.

I know that I wanna work with cartoons, though.

How do I get finances for art school? I live in Cleveland, so the animation classes here are shit.  I don't mind moving, I just have no money. I tried getting a job several times but I haven't been hired.

If I could pick any school, I'd just do Cal Arts 'cause it's in the area of every animation studio ever and seems pretty cool. If anything it'd be a good excuse to move to the LA area.  

I've thought about getting a job there, and just living in an apartment and seeing where that'd take me, but I don't think it's a good idea because I can't even find a job here.

Anyone here who's going to art school have any secrets for paying for it?

cali's economy is in the fuckin tank right now, i wouldn't move to LA without a job. everyone i've known who did it ended up more broke after

You're in Cleveland, Edinboro University is less than 2 hours away near Erie, PA. I'm not saying that because I go there, but because they're a really good animation school. And pretty cheap.

Oh really? I'll check them out.

What do you like about their animation program?

They cover the whole spectrum of animation, and you can concentrate in either 2D or 3D animation at a certain point, like 3rd year. They also give you Character Psychology and Writing courses to improve every facet of your cartoons. The animation building is excellent, they've got big greenscreens and hundreds of high powered computers and tons of cel animation tables. Edinboro is like one of 15 best animation schools in the US, and one of the cheapest. Tuition for me is like $5700 annually since I live in-state.

Quote from: IxintroThey cover the whole spectrum of animation, and you can concentrate in either 2D or 3D animation at a certain point, like 3rd year. They also give you Character Psychology and Writing courses to improve every facet of your cartoons. The animation building is excellent, they've got big greenscreens and hundreds of high powered computers and tons of cel animation tables. Edinboro is like one of 15 best animation schools in the US, and one of the cheapest. Tuition for me is like $5700 annually since I live in-state.

this sounds really good

http://www.edinboro.edu/virtual_tour/v1/ (http://www.edinboro.edu/virtual_tour/v1/)
The building of relevance to animation is Doucette Hall. This thing's a little outdated because Scranton Hall was torn down several years ago and all of the Highlands Apartments have been completed for a while now.

You might want to consider enrolling in a boarding school. The Idyllwild Arts Academy strives to be a special kind of high school that has perfected the art of arts education. They seek to build a close-knit, working community of students and teachers whose passion for the arts is balanced by a dedication to learning. Check out this website (http://www.militaryschools411.com/) where you can get info about boarding schools.

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2nd time's the charm

superjake? more like superlate  

Hey guys?

I don't know how relelvent I am to this topic, but i registered to add my 2 cents.

I just recently graduated in the U.K.

I attended the University of the West of England's animation school; The Bristol School of Animation.

The international fees are going to ba around $50000 for your three years of tuition, in TOTAL.

We have good links to aardman, Regular talks from their staff; and have the company founders drop in from time to time.

Every now and then Richard Williams drops by too (DONT mention the cobbler and the thief, seriously) and I've run into him at Aardman a few times (he lives in bristol).

The encounters film is hosted here every year (AMAZING NETWORKING EVENT), great way to get yourself out there.

The curriculum itself is pretty broad and extensive, taking in everything from production scheduling, principles of animation to stop-motion studio health and safety law (OH GOD, I KNOW MORE ABOUT UK HEALTH AND SAFETY LAW THAN I CARE TO).

All the detail is up on the website, but the good part is that you could do what I did and complete 1.5 years of film school and 1.5 years of animation in that order on the same campus. You'd come away with BA (HONS) MEDIA PRACTICE WITH ANIMATION.

If you have any questions I'd be happy to answer some Birdale@googlemail.com.

http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2011/11/bristol-festival-volunteers.html (http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2011/11/bristol-festival-volunteers.html)

John was the guest at encounters this year, Rebecca (in the second photo) is one of my best buds from the final year; She's the junior fellow at the BSA right now, had an extended bout of work experiance at aardman and is on a first name basis with Peter lord, David sproxton and John K. Also most of our year were involved in animating this; Gulp. The world's largest stop-motion animation set, shot on a Nokia N8. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieN2vhslTTU#ws) (Aardman's 'GULP')

I animated the fish on the right at 18 seconds and you can see me sweeping off the facebook logo  :)

come study here! :) its just about the best balanced animation school in the UK.

thread is old as fuck but

Quote from: eladkitt on January  7, 2012 01:53 AM
Every now and then Richard Williams drops by too (DONT mention the cobbler and the thief, seriously)

lol

Wow. Can't tell if I should pursue animation like I wanted, or continue going on to be a family physician.
I'm at a community college in a small town right now so it's hard to make any connections. I see some saying animation isn't worth it and some saying it'll be fine. I see the "you get out if it what you put into it," but I'm just not sure yet. I know you can still get cheated out by *cough* "some" companies and have your creativity drained out of you. I don't know if that's just for those who go in wanting to just do whatever that they can apply their style to (whatever their allowed to anyway), or if the same applies to those who have been wanting to bring to life this story of theirs for so long.

I'm assuming the average years to finish art school are 4-6. Right?
And apparently for a typical student the MINIMUM number of years it takes to finish med school to be a physician is about 11. Then there's the extra few years in internships and trying to establish connections.

I was thinking I could go in to finish med school, become a physician, work and save some money, and then go to an art school. But I don't know.
I've been told to get a degree for a career I'll enjoy doing for the rest of my life. (who hasn't?) And animation is my passion. But I don't know how well I'd be able to support myself or a family doing that. Or if I'll be able to keep up with a possibly dirty industry. I'm also assuming most of the things that I want to do, I won't be able to do. I see that many people go in with hopes and leave with shattered dreams. But I also hear that if they left then they weren't strong enough to keep pushing through to make what the wanted happen. So there is that. We've celebrated individuality for so long though that how will I know if my passion is worth chasing? What if I need to go into physiology and become a physician for the sake of the next generation of the work force? How much will I have to sacrifice? I'm not sure what I can do and what I should do yet. I wanted to be an animator so I could create this story that I've been working on for years to reach out to people and help them somehow. As a physician, there will be only so much I can do to help people. I want to do more than just diagnose physical problems. I want to be able to help people with more than that.
I did see a couple of places I could go to to work at as an animator, but.. I just don't know.

I guess I don't know what I'm getting myself into just yet.