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this summer i'll be adding a big section of the site for Flash help.
poll - do you think it would be better to have this as a FAQ or a WIKI?

FAQ
advantages: more organized, easier to sort through
disadvantages: editable only to administrator

WIKI
advantages: editable by anyone/members, collective knowledgebase
disadvantages: less organized, vandalism, false information, harder to mantain

please vote and express your opinion. this is important.

my vote (for now) goes to the FAQ, as a wiki would be hard to manage on my own and i don't know anyone who would be commited to helping.

....Honestly I thought that said FAG not faq

Anyway I like the idea of a wiki as most people apart of this community have something to contribute. Whether it be flash or art suggestions.

You should have a couple people kinda moderate important wiki articles to keep em from bein misleading and such.

mabey it should be wiki based, but all edits have to pass inspection by..... probably you. so you just go ahead and give the green light to change whatever after making sure it's right.

moderating EVERY edit is kind of a nightmare, and pointless since wiki can revert to any previous version of the page. but i see where you are coming from.

Quote from: rtilmoderating EVERY edit is kind of a nightmare, and pointless since wiki can revert to any previous version of the page. but i see where you are coming from.

you could assign moderators, but then again it's dangerous to even mention that, because then they'll be some big stupid flame war about who gets to be a moderator. still; it's something to think about.

I'll vote for Wiki because I can tell there a good number of people who'd want to contribute as much as they can , and it seems to me that people like a user based community. Of course there will vandalism, and if it does become a problem you could maybe install a bot or something.

I WANNA BE A MODERATOR

cleaning bots and moderators will be part of it, there's no way i'd do it on my own. i'm leaning towards wiki now, since i think it'd be great to have a collective of information from lots of people, instead of just myself. plus, no one has ever done it before for flash.

well if you're gonna have a nmoderator for a flash thing you should pick people that actually DO FLASH and are good at it

I think I'm pretty good at flash,,, :/

of course i'll be picking people who are knowledgable about flash so that they know which edits are the right ones to make .

you can be one ok

Quote from: rtilof course i'll be picking people who are knowledgable about flash so that they know which edits are the right ones to make .

you can be one ok

ooo boy that'll be SWELL

Hey I know quite a bit about flash too. Just look at that batting average OH MAI GAWD!

Id like to help out anyway

i've decided on the wiki. now the issue is, wikitext and templates for infoboxes and whatnot . i am totally new to these things, and I can't do it alone. any of you knowledgable on wiki formatting?

Wiki's are amazing.

It would allow alot more information to be amassed with better tutorials.

wikis suck you guys are crazy

ya he right, that wiki is gonna get messed to shit, also your way too lenient of an admin, so if someone decides to fuck everything up as a joke, then you probably wont do anything, aside from fix it and tell them to stop.

Except for roast dogg, but that was because he was new, and intolerable.

what makes me too lenient?

i'm only lenient with taylor because he is swell and in all reality this is just a forum and i don't use a ban unless someone truly shows they don't want to be here (like roast dogg)
however with the wiki things will be a little bit different and i won't be tolerating abuse of it no matter who it is.

overviewing the topics i'd want to cover in a project like this i realize that i won't be able to do it myself. i've decided on the wiki. it is more flexible and people will be willing to help out as it will be a community project for the community to work on.

i've installed the software and begun designing templates and projects. once the skeleton of it is ready to go, i will introduce the feature to you guys first to tell me what you think. and then i'll make journals on sheezy and deviant with a catchy title so that people will read it and go check it out.

if anyone thinks this is a bad idea, instead of trying to change my mind they can suggest ways to improve it once it is ready.
the main page of it will be extremely accessible, and will cater to what people will usually be coming there for - FAQ's.

Only go with Wiki, if you can find competent moderators.  Seeing as I have no clue about flash, I've been hit for six on that one... as far as cricket terms go.  Assign at least 2 mods in any case.  3 if it becomes popular.  Anything less is just asking for trouble you don't need.  Try to find mods that aren't in the same time zone too.  Though I doubt that's really necessary, unless if you get a lot of incoming stuff throughout the day when you're offline.

But yeah, I reckon you're capable of it.  Shouldn't prove to be much trouble at all.

to start i'll be getting all the anti-spam wiki features i can find, and then when the project begins to appoint people who are experienced and, yes, competent.

thankfully wiki logs every IP that anonymously edits so i can pinpoint, revert and prevent vandalism/spam from those IP's quite quickly.

ooo and I'll get to ban a bunch a people that act up oooo boy

it';s like

a dream come true

oh shit! Taylors an moderator?! all of my smart ass comments are coming back to haunt me.

no but I'll be one on the wiki

HAHAHA! safe!

lmao

hey I'm noit a moderator but at leas I'm a huge d

your right, i don't know what i was thinking.... wait, what does the "d" stand for?

everything

thats makes sense.

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minus the peenus

I like the idea of having a flash wikipedia. If it worked, it would be an amazing collection of knowledge. However, there are problems like animator's personal preferences and opinions that may be voiced through the editing system etc.

Even so, I think it would be a lot better than an FAQ, just for the fact that there would be a lot more information available in a flash wiki in a shorter time scale. I think an entire Flash FAQ would be a seriously large amount of work for you Rtil.

Yeah, I thought it said fag. I vote faq though, because I'm afraid that if you try to do this whole wiki thing, you'll get too lost in it to do flash work, and that would be too bad :[

i'd try my very best to avoid such a thing. the problem with the FAQ is that i'd be doing it all by myself. that would get in the way of my flash work. with the wiki, everyone could help me.

wiki because who is going to ask questions

not i

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shut up

Yeah, you're right. Also, with wiki, we could put up tutorials and stuff. The flash wikipedia article isn't close at all to what you're talking about. I didn't really understand the whole idea before, but now I kinda get it.

awesome. glad to hear it

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shut up

post whore.

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hey man you pointed out a spelling mistake I made on purpose you sure put me in my place

fuck off

whats you unintellectual about "and you" it just means "you too" as in, "fuck you too", but i only say these things because i want love... love me Taylor.

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i better never see this happen again or the next person is in for a big fat visit from the fbi

Wiki. Now.

well, at first i thought he was trying to write baka, which would have made it different, it means idiot in Japanese. but then i saw he was just pointing out a hypocritical error made by Taylor. but i wouldn't say it was too much, not at all.

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24 hour ban for repeating such a crude statement far too many times
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i better never see this happen again or the next person is in for a big fat visit from the fbi

really, you tyrant

somebody stop me

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pink  flyers

can nothing be done?

I don't think anyone on the internet dislikes you except anime faggots but they're too gay to do something fun like vandalism so I think the whole vandalism scare for the wiki isn't much to try blocking.

I don't know I think the people want the wiki

the wiki got a very positive response on sheezy and deviant blogs. i haven't touched it in a while, but it's still to early to release it to the public, it's in a pretty premature development stage.

yes I'll help you if you're doing a wiki

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what the hell does that mean, who are these people. is it a cult "anime homosexuals of the cloth"?

oooh, soooo..... me

I'm flattered that you think of me soo much Anigen.  
but sorry, i'm not like that.

Quote from: Dagolithoooh, soooo..... me

I'm flattered that you think of me soo much Anigen.  
but sorry, i'm not like that.

anigen is zeke you fuckin idiot

banned

how the fuck am i suppose to know?

I'm still up for helping out with the wiki. I have one more week til I'm out of school.

i'll be getting back on top of it once i finish polishing up my new cartoon, called "gum".

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24 hour ban for repeating such a crude statement far too many times
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i better never see this happen again or the next person is in for a big fat visit from the fbi

i yaymfo'd

I don't see the point of having an enire wiki dedicated to the back alleys, I don't think there would be enough to write about.

you misread. it's not a wiki dedicated to my site. it's a wiki dedicated to the entire realm of flash, which encompasses thousands of things far past the regions of my site.

You should do tutorials for drawing and stuff too if the people are reading it are trying to learn flash. Otherwise there will be no end to the sprites and sticks. If they can't draw at all, they shouldn't animate. Just like that 'tard on the flash/art upload forums with the stick animations.

there should be a

athinganigenwiki.wikia

get rid of "anigen" in the name and i completely agree!

don't forget who gave you that record contract young man

Well the advantages and disadvantages of the FAQ seem a little less hectic than the ones for the wiki. It's easier  AND more organized as you said, and no one else could mess with it.

But wiki sounds good too because it seems like there's a good amount of people who would contribute and protect it.

i think he decided on a wiki guys

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lmao

I don't know whats gonna happen now because some "John" guy from newgrounds made a flash wiki. [got this from the latest newgrounds article. THE LATEST BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO KEEP UP WITH NEWGROUNDS ARE COOL RIGHT]

yes i know about the flash wiki. i'm making a new topic about an alternative name now.

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hi jean

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