i started college last week, and now im not so sure if i want to go through with it or not. i've got 9 assessments to complete within 12 weeks. one subject i have to study and pass is an english based one which is annoying cause id rather be learning shit about things that will improve my ability with drawing etc. i dunno, i think its the college fee thats put me off a bit too. but i really just cant decide. at the moment i literally have no money at all as it is. $0 in the bank until i get paid from the government for studying which is a small allowance every fortnight. there are so many things i need and want to buy but surely wont be able while studying. im usually like this though. i go through with something and then shortly after start convincing myself i dont want to do it anymore. i guess i have a fear of finishing and then never being able to pay back my fee i owe, or just not getting into the right industry even with the qualification i may obtain. we had a game company come in and talk to us and they werent even interested in animators, and explained they need a lot of other roles filled which are sub genres from animation, such as particle effects, map developers, etc. i then realized it may be harder to get somewhere then i though as 3D technology seems to be the only area people are interested in nowadays, they dont care if you are a superb animator, just a good modeler.
so now im thinking do i go ahead with it? do i put the money into this college and learn 3d, and the little tiny bits of 2d they teach? or should i do it when i feel the time is right? i guess it is a financial thing for me. if it was free i would probably go ahead with it. i just have no idea now. is this a normal thing to be thinking or did you college guys have no hesitation when it came to applying for college and going for it?
i dunno if anyone will take me seriously here, but i hope for the most part i get some okay advice.
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go to school when you have money
in america you can get interest free loans from the government
i don't know if you can do that in the land of former convicts
Quote from: Billyin america you can get interest free loans from the government
NO.
NO. NO. NO.
YOU STAY THE FAT FUZZY FRENCH FUCK AWAY FROM LOANS.
LOANS ARE BAD
VERY
EXTREMELY
Quote from: Billygo to school when you have money
in america you can get interest free loans from the government
i don't know if you can do that in the land of former convicts
yeah we have loans you can do, which im currently on. but i have to quit the college within a week if i dont want to pay anything back to them. otherwise they start loaning me money which ill have to owe back.
Quote from: ZekeyQuote from: Billyin america you can get interest free loans from the government
NO.
NO. NO. NO.
YOU STAY THE FAT FUZZY FRENCH FUCK AWAY FROM LOANS.
LOANS ARE BAD
VERY
EXTREMELY
It'll take you at least a 564894f4sd68646 years to pay back with interest.
My dad is very persistant that I get a loan.
YOU DON'T NEED TO WORK DURING OR AFTER HIGHSCHOOL FOR COLLEGE SON, JUST GET YOURSELF A LOANI'll probably still end up getting one even If I do find a job.
Ive always doubted on loans. Therefore i will never have loans. Taking up loan for a house or a car is somewhat acceptable, but i wont cross the limit after that.
Now everyone report to the dance floor
To the dance floor, to the dance floor
Now everyone report to the dance floor
Alright Stop...Pajama time
INTEREST FREE LOAN
DO NOT GET A LOAN WITH INTEREST. INTEREST FREE OK??????
loans are bad
try to get scholarships or something unless you want to pay a shitwad of money every day for the rest of your life
scholarships are too complicated to get here. they rarely give them out.
kinda hard to say considering where you live the opportunities seem a little dry out there for 2d, unless if you want to count quick stunts on subsidiary networks like ross\\\'s gamer tonight. i know this is a stretch but i think the best thing to do might be to get your degree, then find a way to come up to the united states and find work in a place like southern california where there are just heaps and heaps of animation studios.
what\\\'s the name of your major?
yeah a lot of places here only rely on 3d. seems to be a huge lack of 2d around where i live. unless theyre just hidden really well and i dont know about them yet.
the degree is called:
Bachelor of Interactive Entertainment (with a Major in Animation)
Quote from: rtilkinda hard to say considering where you live the opportunities seem a little dry out there for 2d, unless if you want to count quick stunts on subsidiary networks like ross's gamer tonight. i know this is a stretch but i think the best thing to do might be to get your degree, then find a way to come up to the united states and find work in a place like southern california where there are just heaps and heaps of animation studios.
yeah see
get a fucking interest-free loan. You'll only have to pay back exactly what you got and you'll have no problem once you have your degree
hey as long as the word 'animation' is in it more power to ya
and at the end of it all it's your reel that is the most important
and you can build that on your own time
i dont know if i have the will power to do it though. the fee itself has dragged me down a lot. i keep thinking ill never pay it back when i finish and ill just be kicking myself in the head the whole time im at the college because i made a stupid decision. its only a small little college. prob about 150 odd students max. it aint no huge mainstream one like i imagine them to be like in the states.
most animation schools here are moderately sized. there can't be more than 1,000 people enrolled where i go. meanwhile university of washington across the lake has almost 50,000 students lmao . paying a fee or a loan back is only a matter of setting money aside gradually as time goes by. they can be the smallest amounts but if you never dig into your savings at some point you'll be able to pay it off.
is your college mainly traditional 2d stuff or a mix of 3d aswell? or mainly 3d?
cause my college is mainly 3d, which is a bummer. i tried modeling in 3ds max at college the other day, and its such an annoying program. id much rather use flash and improve on my 2d. GUHHHHH maybe i need to goto a different college.
3ds max is an awful piece of software for animators. it was originally designed for technical artists and architects. the animation stuff was tacked on later after animators complained. a piece of software designed for animators is maya. i made my final project last year in maya and i was one of the few who actually finished in time because so many people had issues with max, even though we had been learning max for 2 years and maya only that year.
my school is a good mix.
the first year you don't even touch a computer.
2nd year it's digital painting, flash, and an introduction to 3d.
3rd and 4th year it used to be all 3d (they would force you to do your final projects in 3d). but then some real animators took over the art department knowing that some people weren't interested in throwing away traditional mediums for the rest of their lives. needless to say, next semester for our final project, blvd-square and i will be making a cartoon with traditional animation, flash and photoshop.
thats awesome. i want to move to america and study there lol
my college doesnt even allow you to use maya, they only let you use 3ds max wtf. even industry related people ive met said they dont use 3ds max in the industry, they use maya. so yeah thats a bit gay.
yeah, that's another thing they fixed in my school recently. we have a 3ds max certified teacher here, but he's not an animator - he's an architect. it was a nightmare when he tried to teach us character animation 2 years ago. then another teacher who worked at suckerpunch studios was like 'uh, sup guys, nobody uses 3dsmax in the game/animation field', and the school is slowly switching over to maya. the packages are really different and it's not healthy for people to go straight into the industry having no maya experience, because they'll only give you a week or two to pick it up.
what college are you going to rtil, i am sorta stuck between doing art related things and CIS/programming but I got a feeling i am going to get bored of doing the latter
http://digipen.edu/main/Main_Page (http://digipen.edu/main/Main_Page)
one thing you will probably like about this school is that your junior/senior year you can collab with programmers and make games
that is awesome, hopefully i will be able to double major
Digipen sounds nice but I cant be goin all da way to Washinton boy!
what state you live in anyway
i would have gone to digipen if i knew it wasn't hard to get into 3 years ago when i was applying to colleges.
I have this option of going to a college where its just a one year intensive course of classical animation and then you get your diploma and make your reel. You get to work with other students as you go along, like voice actors, sound guys, witters, etc. So the collaborative experience is great, but the tuition is high and one year go through the whole thing seems like a lot of work crammed into a small amount time.
Also, I will be only learning 2d mediums. Is having some knowledge of 3d animation important even though the main objective is 2d?
cooldrmoney lives in maryland and should go to my school so we can be best buds
Quote from: FrozenSheepI have this option of going to a college where its just a one year intensive course of classical animation and then you get your diploma and make your reel. You get to work with other students as you go along, like voice actors, sound guys, witters, etc. So the collaborative experience is great, but the tuition is high and one year go through the whole thing seems like a lot of work crammed into a small amount time.
Also, I will be only learning 2d mediums. Is having some knowledge of 3d animation important even though the main objective is 2d?
only one year? that's not enough. also, the more you know the better. so yes it's good to know 3d.
my course is 2 years. but they squish an extra year into those 2 years. so its 3 years crammed into 2, which means more work in less time.
Quote from: rtilQuote from: FrozenSheepI have this option of going to a college where its just a one year intensive course of classical animation and then you get your diploma and make your reel. You get to work with other students as you go along, like voice actors, sound guys, witters, etc. So the collaborative experience is great, but the tuition is high and one year go through the whole thing seems like a lot of work crammed into a small amount time.
Also, I will be only learning 2d mediums. Is having some knowledge of 3d animation important even though the main objective is 2d?
only one year? that's not enough. also, the more you know the better. so yes it's good to know 3d.
I looked into it a bit. They put into nicer words but basically they throw in a lot of work into one year.
I live in Maryland and should go to Billy's school so we can be best buds
Quote from: FrozenSheepQuote from: rtilQuote from: FrozenSheepI have this option of going to a college where its just a one year intensive course of classical animation and then you get your diploma and make your reel. You get to work with other students as you go along, like voice actors, sound guys, witters, etc. So the collaborative experience is great, but the tuition is high and one year go through the whole thing seems like a lot of work crammed into a small amount time.
Also, I will be only learning 2d mediums. Is having some knowledge of 3d animation important even though the main objective is 2d?
only one year? that's not enough. also, the more you know the better. so yes it's good to know 3d.
I looked into it a bit. They put into nicer words but basically they throw in a lot of work into one year.
sounds like a bad idea if you ask me. my first year was hard enough as it was. i can't imagine extra years being crammed into it. doesn't really give you enough time to soak it all in
agreed! thats why im leaving my college tomorrow lol pwnt back to my normal boring life until i find a new college
lmao
im just gonna go to a major college that has a good art program so that way i can learn about art and get education in everything else
Quote from: rtilyeah, that's another thing they fixed in my school recently. we have a 3ds max certified teacher here, but he's not an animator - he's an architect. it was a nightmare when he tried to teach us character animation 2 years ago. then another teacher who worked at suckerpunch studios was like 'uh, sup guys, nobody uses 3dsmax in the game/animation field', and the school is slowly switching over to maya. the packages are really different and it's not healthy for people to go straight into the industry having no maya experience, because they'll only give you a week or two to pick it up.
every time i open this topic i read this post all the way through even though i know exactly what it says because its at the top of the page
sometimes i do that too
we are connected
sometimes i feel as though people only read the most recent page
or they only read the most recent post
Quote from: CoolDrMoneyI live in Maryland
just like half of the other users here
goddamnit what is wrong with this place