thebackalleys

totally EXCLUSIVE for the next 5 HOURS!!!!!!!!!! wow!

edit: i'm tired i'll release it to more MORE EXLUSIVITY

http://www.thebackalleys.com/go (http://www.thebackalleys.com/go)

animated in the pixel style and based off the music video 'Move Your Feet' by Junior Senior, one of the favorite songs of the person i made this for for christmas. just something fun you probably won't understand at all but hopefully it'll be fun to watch. made with the flash pixel tools plug-in

that was great haha
every single bit was awesome

Lmfao wow this is fucking great. I actually like it more than your Project Freetown movie to be honest.

hahaah this is just as good as the original if not better

you messed up the width. It's 1pixel wider than it should be sometimes.

Even Jr. Sr. would like this

nice job!!!

bad

Quote from: mongrel architectbad

better than your music

Quote from: anigen teh

Quote from: mongrel architectbad

better than your music

no

Quote from: mongrel architect

Quote from: anigen teh

Quote from: mongrel architectbad

better than your music

no

uh yes

because animation and music can be compared

brb

Quote from: mongrel architectbecause animation and music can be compared

level of enjoyment can be compared

you see armon there's a sort of latter when it comes to entertainment

x - amazingly entertaining
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x - made me smile
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x - it was ok
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x - it wasnt funny
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x - made me cringe
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x - made me barf
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x - made me want to rip my head off and have someone shit down my neck
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x - armon pakdel


as you can see, your music is clearly the bottom of the barrel

I like HLG's music, stop overreacting anigen. It's kind of obvious that he wasn't even 100% serious.

i just dont get why hlg hangs around here all day when all he does is make rude asshole posts as if he owns the place

which is totally absurd because psi is obviously the real owner of thebackalleys

back

Quote from: anigen tehi just dont get why hlg hangs around here all day when all he does is make rude asshole posts as if he owns the place

which is totally absurd because psi is obviously the real owner of thebackalleys

ok

I am pretty sure rtil knows well enough how to ignore hlg and that he wasn't being serious.

hlg has definitely changed

not really

Lol,  I was wating all day for this vid!

Lmao. you know who must have loved this!

Also. Do you kno if the Pixl plug-in tool comes with Cs3?

wow rtil is at it again

quit stealing sprites rtil it's not your own work i swear to god nintendo will sue you for this judgement day will come

YOU ARE LATE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OUT ALREADY.

I enjoyed the flash movie and it's refreshing seeing a polished sprite movie with all the sprites custom made.

Quote from: MishkaMashthat was great haha
every single bit was awesome

thank you

Quote from: Psi43Lmfao wow this is fucking great. I actually like it more than your Project Freetown movie to be honest.

haha, that's cool. thanks

Quote from: Daagahhahaah this is just as good as the original if not better

i wanna know how those animators made theirs. animating with pixels is so time consuming, but really fun

Quote from: Psi43you messed up the width. It's 1pixel wider than it should be sometimes.

i'll be sure to fix that before i release it on NG and stuff , thanks for noticing. i do that on almost every damn cartoon i've made

Quote from: SystekEven Jr. Sr. would like this

nice job!!!

maybe i'll show it to them and see what they think. they like user created content. thank you

Quote from: mongrel architectbad

Quote from: GRINACELol,  I was wating all day for this vid!

Lmao. you know who must have loved this!

Also. Do you kno if the Pixl plug-in tool comes with Cs3?

no , it does not. you need to download the adobe extension manager (or if you have a version below CS3, find the old macromedia extension manager), download the plugin (it's free - google it), and install it with the ext manager. then, you can use it in flash after you re-open it.

Quote from: notoriouswow rtil is at it again

quit stealing sprites rtil it's not your own work i swear to god nintendo will sue you for this judgement day will come

i changed all of mario's colors therefore it is my own original work  

Quote from: W.A.C.I enjoyed the flash movie and it's refreshing seeing a polished sprite movie with all the sprites custom made.

thank you. i don't see a lot of original sprite cartoons and it's disappointing. there's so much potential (and demand) for it

well animated

the ginyu force made me jump for joy

rhythm bandits

Okay Rtil. I got the Adobe Extension but I cant seem to find the Pixel Plugin for flash cs3 on google...

I just watched that flash for the 5th time. I've grown to really like it, a lot. My favorite flash from you was GUM but I might like this flash even better.

I KNEW IT WOULD COME TO THIS

Lol, thanx & sorry Rtil. I downloaded it but it saying that "Cant find installer file".

ok you're doing something wrong. this is how it works

1. close flash
2. download & install adobe/macromedia extension manager
3. open adobe/macromedia extension manager
4. hit "install new extension"
5. open extension, it should install automatically
6. open flash, edit your button layouts to add the pixel tools to a toolbar

I got It. What I was doing wrong was that I would run the file and not save then use it. Lol I did find the file before. I just didn't save it. Thanx Rtil!

Quote from: REDMONGOOSEwell animated

the ginyu force made me jump for joy

rhythm bandits

lmao awesome
watch out we are rhythm bandits

Quote from: bugthat was really fun to watch

e: this made me check out the original music video and i just discovered the origin of a thousand overused avatars

haha  same thing happened to me when i saw it

Quote from: GRINACEI got It. What I was doing wrong was that I would run the file and not save then use it. Lol I did find the file before. I just didn't save it. Thanx Rtil!

glad you figured it out

Hmm I was hoping that you could change the size of the pixel brush size... Pencil I mean.

you can change it in the same place you change the thickness of lines (properties window)

Ohh... lol I never use the properties window...

aha, it was fun and my friends now make +2 fans, who are amazed cause they dont know what flash is/how it works

awesome job

Awesome
I missed this dammit
Very amusing
grrreat

That was so totally awesome, better than the original video by far!

hay liridon

make an introduction topic or nobody will like you

oooo, I like how half of what you're drawn is still there when you press ctrl+z.

That was actually, really fun.

Btw Rtil, were do you get those plugins? The pixel tools are really useful.

Quote from: Inquisitor GalloglassesThat was actually, really fun.

Btw Rtil, were do you get those plugins? The pixel tools are really useful.

i get them from wherever i can find them on google.
eventually all the free ones will be available for download on anipedia

Quote from: Psi43oooo, I like how half of what you're drawn is still there when you press ctrl+z.

you should see what happens when you undo the eraser tool en-masse
sometimes i have to undo 10 times to make everything come back

uhmmm so i don't know how to get this thing to work

when you install it says to make tools available go to Edit>Customize tools panel and i go there and it says the plugins are installed but I can't seem to find out how to use them

oops accidental double post

you should see 4/5 different pixel tools as individual buttons that you''ll have to categorize under something else like pencil tool
also did you restart flash after you installed them with the extension manager?

ooo ok now it works thank ya

been waiting for a pixel art movie from you for a long time

glad you didn't steal the habbo hotel art style

i really enjoyed watching it wonderful job

I fucking want CS3 so bad because of that plugin.

Quote from: TealonI fucking want CS3 so bad because of that plugin.

well then download it it's not too late!!!

Quote from: TealonI fucking want CS3 so bad because of that plugin.

I use Flash8 and it works, too.

AAA

the dbz parts made me laugh the rest was just neat

^lmao yes. Submit it to NG already.

Quote from: Psi43^lmao yes. Submit it to NG already.

Yeah you're like a day late.

Genyu Force away!!!

IT'S OUT

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/337125 (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/337125)

um
!!!

Good work rtil. I liked that 'special NG version'.

[LINK] (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/418412)

It's out.

I didn't like it that much to be honest ):
Sorry ):

Already 5'd it

Quote from: rtilmade with the flash pixel tools plug-in

I must get this thing.

Somehow.

bug's comment reminds me


long ago (like 2 years) someone wanted me to turn the 'bouncing toast' sequence from the original Junior Senior music vid into an avatar.

The catch was it could only be 30k.
I dont think I've ever spent more time on compressing a gif as much as I did that.

The graphics are terrific. All the sprite art is costume made and it all runs very smoothly.

^lmao W.A.C

I made the same typo on Worms Armageddon a few weeks ago lmao.

tricky word.

lmao, there are always Germans when you play worms online

and, unlike psi, they can never speak English right

one of them even asked me "WHERE GOT YOU THIS MAP?"

lmao, idiots

I was originally hoping my review would have been one of the first reviews for the flash but I made some last minute changes before submitting it.

Quote from: taylorThe graphics are terrific. All the sprite art is costume made and it all runs very smoothly.

^lmao W.A.C

>_>

Quote from: W.A.C.I was originally hoping my review would have been one of the first reviews for the flash but I made some last minute changes before submitting it.

Quote from: taylorThe graphics are terrific. All the sprite art is costume made and it all runs very smoothly.

^lmao W.A.C

>_>

^_____^ SOOO CUTTTEEE!!!!

 

I love you artil   .. ok now,   man I loved it, thanks for making cool stuff like this!

I refuse to believe that you video is 100% yours. Personally, it seems like you borrowed a little from a Mr.Shynola. Am I saying you video is a total cheat, and you have no original artwork or ideas? No. I am however saying that you should give credit. You also said that you had never seen this other video, which is impossible. One of you sprite's animations is identical to Shynola's. Give credit pal. Otherwise, it was a good video, don't get me wrong.


some faggot left that in a review his name is TheBoard

who is Mr. Shynola lmao

I think it's someone on youtube who posted the JS video lmfao. Only thing I could think of.

Haha you guys are ridiculous. Shynola are the people that animated the original move your feet video.

then the guy obviously didn't read my video comments. i said it was loosely based off the original

Quote from: rtilthen the guy obviously didn't read my video comments. i said it was loosely based off the original

People reading the author's comments? On newgrounds?


HAHA

oh my.

Zekey is right. They don't read them, when something is under judgment, they vote depending on the length of the comment though!

most people seem to

esp. if it's a game

KAWAII X3

kurwa

Quote from: FreekCkurwa

dawai dawai

Quote from: Ψtil

Quote from: FreekCkurwa

dawai dawai

Rubber shoelaces!

i keep having to link people to the download for the pixel tools . i need to put it somewhere with a shorter link

Quote from: rtilok you're doing something wrong. this is how it works

1. close flash
2. download & install adobe/macromedia extension manager
3. open adobe/macromedia extension manager
4. hit "install new extension"
5. open extension, it should install automatically
6. open flash, edit your button layouts to add the pixel tools to a toolbar

I did that.
I didn't work.
Is it because I have MX 2004?

do you have the correct version of macromedia extension manager?
also, i do not know if pixel tools work in MX 2004. i would recommend getting a more recent version

Quote from: rtildo you have the correct version of macromedia extension manager?
also, i do not know if pixel tools work in MX 2004. i would recommend getting a more recent version

Well.
I just today got CS3.

then adobe extension manager should treat you just fine

Quote from: rtilthen adobe extension manager should treat you just fine

i'm installing it tomorrow.
Hope it works.
Here's my attempt at pixel art in MS Paint.


My Crappy Pixel Art Test (http://spamtheweb.com/ul/upload/040108/69571_Tomatotest.php)

not bad, but you'll be able to do much better w/ the pixel tools

Quote from: rtilnot bad, but you'll be able to do much better w/ the pixel tools

Seriously.
And does the extension support mac?
Sorry to ask too much.

I can draw by far better in MS Paint than with the pixel extension in flash.

Quote from: ΨtilI can draw by far better in MS Paint than with the pixel extension in flash.

Tablet Can Make A Huge Difference.

I can't stand using MS Paint, even for making sprites.

Quote from: mexifry895

Quote from: rtilnot bad, but you'll be able to do much better w/ the pixel tools

Seriously.
And does the extension support mac?
Sorry to ask too much.

yep, you just need to get the mac version of adobe extension manager instead

Aight.
Thanks.

rtil, for someone who wants to check out some of Junior Senior's work, do you have any song recommendations?

Edit-

Ugh. I just listened to every song on their MySpace page (http://www.myspace.com/juniorsenior). Every song on there was crap except for Move Your Feet.

Quote from: mexifry895

Quote from: ΨtilI can draw by far better in MS Paint than with the pixel extension in flash.

Tablet Can Make A Huge Difference.

Capitalizing Every Word In A Sentence Isn't Correct Grammar Stop Trying To Sound Smart.

take your finger off that shift key

Quote from: W.A.C.rtil, for someone who wants to check out some of Junior Senior's work, do you have any song recommendations?

Edit-

Ugh. I just listened to every song on their MySpace page (http://www.myspace.com/juniorsenior). Ever song on there was crap except for Move Your Feet.

Use a daft punk song. except harder better faster stronger.

QuoteCapitalizing Every Word In A Sentence Isn't Correct Grammar Stop Trying To Sound Smart.

Sorry. Didnt realize i was doing that.

Quote from: W.A.C.rtil, for someone who wants to check out some of Junior Senior's work, do you have any song recommendations?

Edit-

Ugh. I just listened to every song on their MySpace page (http://www.myspace.com/juniorsenior). Ever song on there was crap except for Move Your Feet.

that's kind of how I felt

i wanted to see if I liked them

i like all their stuff

use ms paint you dick its way more fun

if i remember right, - move - passed judging with around 3.6, 3.7. its now on 4.3

i thought flash scores generaly headed downhill from judgement

Quote from: FreekCi thought flash scores generaly headed downhill from judgement

not if it (is submitted by an overrated faggot/is KAWAII X3 enough)

animating in mspaint is not fun

i would do the animation in fireworks

that would be an improvement from mspaint

ms paint is still better for drawing pixelized shit though!! fucker

but not for animating them!!

reverse-engineer in fireworks $$$

unless you only need like 3 frames, or if it's really simple animation, then i'd just stick to paint

actually fuck it it's probably easier to just work with a large canvas in paint and then copy-paste your lil sprite things around and edit them

you could do that
or you could use onion skinning in flash or use the block pencil in photoshop with the animation tab
personally i like to use animation software for animating but that's just me

actually, if someone could use mspaint to animate a whole fucking movie than that would be major fucking badass


I fucking love mspaint :3
Mspaint is my her0 :3

PHOTOSHOP FAGGOTS MIGHT HAVE BETRAYED YOU
THEY MIGHT HAVE BETRAYED MICE AS WELL
WITH THEIR GAY TABLETS
BUT THEY ARE FAGOTS
AND LIKE TO FUCK OTTER-CARCASSES

mspaint il always <3 U!!!

Quote from: wpsactually, if someone could use mspaint to animate a whole fucking movie than that would be major fucking badass


I fucking love mspaint :3
Mspaint is my her0 :3

PHOTOSHOP FAGGOTS MIGHT HAVE BETRAYED YOU
THEY MIGHT HAVE BETRAYED MICE AS WELL
WITH THEIR GAY TABLETS
BUT THEY ARE FAGOTS
AND LIKE TO FUCK OTTER-CARCASSES

mspaint il always <3 U!!!

it would be amazing, but it would be a waste of time

animation in general is a waste of time, so why not waste some more time challenging yourself instead of always picking the easy way out like some lazy nigg

fbf is a waste of time

let's all tween sprites everyone!

Quote from: Sinitronanimation in general is a waste of time, so why not waste some more time challenging yourself instead of always picking the easy way out like some lazy nigg

that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. animation is a film medium, and film is the largest source of revenue in entertainment that has ever existed. and frame by frame is a waste of time? no, paint is impractical. that's like animating without a lightboard.

I did all my recent traditional animations without a lightboard

not that I don't got a lightboard




Also, in some way or another everything that is on top of the Maslow pyramid is a waste of time.
Art, sports, religion, w/e
it's all fucking unimportant if you're starving on a fucking island

Saying that animating a whole movie in mspaint is a waste of time unlike using another medium is quite ironic, really :/

and your animations suffer for that accordingly, especially with line inconsistency
everything is art, and art is more significant and lasting than sport
and it's a waste of time because it can be done quicker and better with something else. limiting yourself purposely is self-defeating

Quote from: rtil

Quote from: Sinitronanimation in general is a waste of time, so why not waste some more time challenging yourself instead of always picking the easy way out like some lazy nigg

that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. animation is a film medium, and film is the largest source of revenue in entertainment that has ever existed. and frame by frame is a waste of time? no, paint is impractical. that's like animating without a lightboard.

i meant that animation is totally useless because it doesnt do anything other than kill time for the masses, not that its impossible to make money off it

plus its easy as shit to animate with smaller pixel things LIKE THE STUFF SEEN IN YOUR LATEST in ms paint if you have half a dick and the ability to work your way around handicaps

tldr shut the fuck up retard its all your fault that mankind is fucked and that earth will be ruled by black people within a couple centuries HOW DOES THAT FEEL MR RACIST MAN PERSON

I think a man on an island with a coconut tree survives longer than a man on an island with a painted masterpiece.


Also, making fastfood takes less time than making a traditional Chinese dish
But.. a traditional Chinese dish tastes allot better

We got all the time in the world, why speed up the process?
Quality must always be more important than quantity

What use is it for an animation to be made quickly?
It's not like the watchers would notice.
It's not like the audience would give a standing ovation for a cartoon purely because it was done in a few seconds.
Actually.. art always gets allot more admiration if the viewer understands how much time someone "wasted" on something.

Art isn't about time, it's about the love you put into it

Quotei meant that animation is totally useless because it doesnt do anything other than kill time for the masses

i completely disagree with you. i believe animation is the most powerful tool to communicate to human beings on any level.

Quoteplus its easy as shit to animate with smaller pixel things LIKE THE STUFF SEEN IN YOUR LATEST in ms paint if you have half a dick and the ability to work your way around handicaps

i had 2 weeks to produce it, it was a christmas present for a close friend. i wasn't going to do something as stupid as attempt to animate it in mspaint then hope to god it will sync up with music when i import it to flash. you're simply trying to downplay the cartoon in a pitiful attempt to make me look like i'm lazy. it's ironic, because you're the one who never gets any work done.

elf tower new mexico

goddamnit I wrote this big nice post and it gets all ignored ):

Quote from: wpsI think a man on an island with a coconut tree survives longer than a man on an island with a painted masterpiece.

well i don't know any men starving on islands, so this doesn't mean anything to me.

QuoteAlso, making fastfood takes less time than making a traditional Chinese dish
But.. a traditional Chinese dish tastes allot better

We got all the time in the world, why speed up the process?
Quality must always be more important than quantity

What use is it for an animation to be made quickly?
It's not like the watchers would notice.
It's not like the audience would give a standing ovation for a cartoon purely because it was done in a few seconds.
Actually.. art always gets allot more admiration if the viewer understands how much time someone "wasted" on something.

Art isn't about time, it's about the love you put into it

i had 2 weeks to produce the cartoon. i guarantee you it would have looked much worse if i had attempted to make it in mspaint. part of being an animator (and a chef) is having a lot of tricks up your sleeves. i used everything at my disposal to make the best product i could in a limited amount of time. i worked on it every second i was awake and not off wasting time christmas shopping.

i fail to see the logic in your argument that animating everything with the most primitive tools is the only way to create something truly beautiful.


i love animation more than anything, and because i don't purposely limit myself doesn't mean i don't.

Well you kept talking about wasting time, and I said that how much time you waste shouldn't matter in animation

Also, animating in mspaint would be plain fuckin badass
I'm not mad at you not using it but

There's no way you should diss someone who's able to make an animated masterpiece with mspaint, I've tried it sometimes without success


Also, I was just stating how unimportant everything actually is.. and that you don't really have the right to call one unimportant thing more important than the other unimportant thing.
Because IN THE BIG PICTURE animation is unimportant
animation hasn't cured cancer yet or saved orphans from burning buildings

if someone made an animated masterpiece in mspaint i would admire them for their patience and hard work, but personally i'd never attempt it. life here is short, there's only so much we can do. if i can make something faster and better with something else, i'm going to do it. and the tool isn't using me, i'm using the tool.

i also disagree with you about animation. i think animation is very important and has the power to change people's lives. people die every day and germs and bugs will always be mutating and science will always be trying to catch up to them. but animation (and art) is permanent and its effect on human life is more significant than you probably think it is.

I don't think you really understand me
Yes art is useful in today's modern society
They're tunnels to each other's psyche and make us learn about each other's opinion and yadda yadda yatadda


But it's not as important as survival

Nothing is

A government should not be spending it's money on restoring/buying old paintings if it's people are starving. Art is a low priority compared to shelter, water, food, w/e.


I care about art
I visit museums, old buildings, artistic movies in filmhouses, operas,
I read classical literature.

But despite the worlds opened by other creative minds are amazingly fascinating, and despite the paintings that grab me and drag me into their worlds, and despite the books who's words stick to me like leaches,

I am realistic enough to know that in the big BIG GIGANTIC, HUGE MOTHERFUCKING picture, that we humans are still nothing but animals

and if it wasn't for us being on top of the food chain, we wouldn't even be bothered to do anything than hunting or running in fear

So yes.. in that point of view art doesn't matter

Quote from: rtili completely disagree with you. i believe animation is the most powerful tool to communicate to human beings on any level.

Do you think Disney or Nintendo gives a flying fuck about telling the story about a young boy losing his best friend and then saving the world to avenge him or some shit? No. They do it for the money, so they can keep their operations on the go. Best way to do this? Appeal. If they had the choice between something radical and fresh that could flop or something generic that would generate income regardless they would go with the more profitable option. That's why I despise generally professionalized industries that aim for the money and prefer a more localized and homely business to any corporation.

Quote from: rtili had 2 weeks to produce it, it was a christmas present for a close friend. i wasn't going to do something as stupid as attempt to animate it in mspaint then hope to god it will sync up with music when i import it to flash. you're simply trying to downplay the cartoon in a pitiful attempt to make me look like i'm lazy.

Well you didn't exactly put too much detail into it, it is far from impossible to do the same in MS paint during the same period of time (It's not like one would make a new *.bmp for every single fucking image), and you can always manually sync it while putting it all together. Of course, I am 95% self-taught, I'm used to finding solutions to problems that shouldn't even exist, and I have a clear advantage over most people at this stage. As you go to school for this shit you've probably been taught a bunch of crap and followed guidelines and whatever that was never present for me and Wally.

Quote from: rtilit's ironic, because you're the one who never gets any work done.

Wrong. I may not do much animation, sure, but I do alot of manual labor and the like. I'd much rather be able to fend for myself than rely on other people buying my goods.

ps ms paint is still way more fun to use

Quote from: Sinitronps ms paint is still way more fun to use

ok with this the discussion is officially closed


we won


me and sin are a bunch of intellectual motherfuckers

Quote from: wpsit's all fucking unimportant if you're starving on a fucking island

I don't really get your point. You could say the whole life is unimportant. The only important thing is finding the cure to every sickness there is, that is how every human should live. Everyone will die that doesn't mean that everything besides preventing human from dying is unimportant. Art has a huge impact on people, it inspires them and whatnot. Movies entertain people, games entartain people, too. A lot of people like to play soccer and other sports for entertaining, too and for a nice body.

your logic doesn't really make sense but I don't want to write an essey about everything you said sooo! I will leave it with that (I will probably respond to your response but grg)

Quote from: wpsI don't think you really understand me
Yes art is useful in today's modern society
They're tunnels to each other's psyche and make us learn about each other's opinion and yadda yadda yatadda


But it's not as important as survival

Nothing is

A government should not be spending it's money on restoring/buying old paintings if it's people are starving. Art is a low priority compared to shelter, water, food, w/e.


I care about art
I visit museums, old buildings, artistic movies in filmhouses, operas,
I read classical literature.

But despite the worlds opened by other creative minds are amazingly fascinating, and despite the paintings that grab me and drag me into their worlds, and despite the books who's words stick to me like leaches,

I am realistic enough to know that in the big BIG GIGANTIC, HUGE MOTHERFUCKING picture, that we humans are still nothing but animals

and if it wasn't for us being on top of the food chain, we wouldn't even be bothered to do anything than hunting or running in fear

So yes.. in that point of view art doesn't matter

well i don't live from that viewpoint. i've not had to worry about survival my entire life, and i don't foresee an issue on me struggling to survive any time in the near future.

and keep in mind that in the middle ages art was an essential part of many people's survival. without the guise of religion behind many of the paintings and cathedrals of that time many people probably would have rather died as their lives were incredibly grim. art has been an essential part of humankind since the beginning of our recorded history, in that it separates us from being animals. hell, even some animals and bugs create art, but not with the same intentions. theirs is instinct, ours is intellect.

Ah for fuck's sake never mind

this is just a repetive fucking bullshit


Look, shitheads,

Edvard Munch's The Scream is an important painting, Rembrandt van Rijn's de Nachtwacht is an important painting, the work of Jeroen Bosch is important, Francesca Goya's work is important.
All important in today's society.

Goya showed the horrors inside of us, Bosch showed our imagination for the first time in human history, Edvard Munch painted emotions that were unspeakable back then, and the Nachtwacht was just badass.

I never said that art was completely unimportant, only compared to the bottom of the Maslow Pyramid


It's important for the history of today's culture and today's philosophy etc. etc.



But most of all these paintings and artists will always
ALWAYS
ALWAAAAAYSSSS

be more important than all you shitters combinedddddddddd


the end now shut up

Quote from: SinitronDo you think Disney or Nintendo gives a flying fuck about telling the story about a young boy losing his best friend and then saving the world to avenge him or some shit? No. They do it for the money, so they can keep their operations on the go. Best way to do this? Appeal. If they had the choice between something radical and fresh that could flop or something generic that would generate income regardless they would go with the more profitable option. That's why I despise generally professionalized industries that aim for the money and prefer a more localized and homely business to any corporation.

Who said I was talking about Disney and Nintendo?

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Well you didn't exactly put too much detail into it, it is far from impossible to do the same in MS paint during the same period of time (It's not like one would make a new *.bmp for every single fucking image), and you can always manually sync it while putting it all together. Of course, I am 95% self-taught, I'm used to finding solutions to problems that shouldn't even exist, and I have a clear advantage over most people at this stage. As you go to school for this shit you've probably been taught a bunch of crap and followed guidelines and whatever that was never present for me and Wally.

It's hard for me to speak to you because you think you are better than everyone.

I wasn't going for a detailed style, I was going for a limited palette in an 8 or 16-bit minimalistic style. Not everything has to be detailed to be good, and I think it's quite clear i was not aiming for that. Even then some, I don't think you've ever done pixel art as some of the still frames (such as the downtown scene and the dbz poses) took some time to draw on a blown up scale.

And you obviously know nothing about what it is like to be in an art school. You can go to an art school your whole life and still be the worst artist on the planet. You are told to do things but applying them is what actually matters. Going to art school is not a ticket to being a good artist or animator, and guidelines and rules are actually what kills animation and art.

You have just as many opportunities as me to excel in art, and me going to school presents no advantage over me to you or wps or anyone. How foolish and hypocritical of you to even think that.

I am aware how someone would go about animating in MS paint. I didn't do it because I preferred to try the new pixel tools plugin I had installed, not because I was told by a teacher to do it.

They don't even teach traditional animation at my school anymore. I choose to do it on my own because I enjoy and respect the medium. I study people who I think are masters, and take the principles of animation and try to keep them in mind at all times.

These things are freely available to you and you know it. Your "you go to school and I don't" story is a pile of shit.

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Wrong. I may not do much animation, sure, but I do alot of manual labor and the like. I'd much rather be able to fend for myself than rely on other people buying my goods.

What do you mean "fend for myself"? Just as I rely on people to offer commission work, you rely on contractors to give you work. It is no different.

Okay:

I have CS3
I have Extention Manager
I have Pixel Toons
I installed it
I even restarted my computer.

It still does't work.
Am I looking under the wrong section?
I looked under the pencil tool like I've heard.

I'll make a tutorial on it. Hold up.

Quote from: REvoI'll make a tutorial on it. Hold up.

You don't have to go that far.
Does it not work on mac?

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Quote from: REvoI'll make a tutorial on it. Hold up.

You don't have to go that far.
Does it not work on mac?

You sure? It'd only take a couple of minutes... and I'm pretty sure it should work on a mac...

Quote from: REvoYou sure? It'd only take a couple of minutes... and I'm pretty sure it should work on a mac...

Well if it will take you a short time, then go for it.
I just dont want to be a burden.

Quote from: Sinitronanimation in general is a waste of time, so why not waste some more time challenging yourself instead of always picking the easy way out like some lazy nigg

that's retarded. animation is in no way "the easy way out" and neither is art school. i bet you wouldnt last one semester in digipen

Quote from: rtileverything is art, and art is more significant and lasting than sport
and it's a waste of time because it can be done quicker and better with something else. limiting yourself purposely is self-defeating

i agree that art is more significant. sport is purely entertainment. art is more than entertainment, it is not simply limited to that. it is also creation. we as human beings are meant to create. football for example brings nothing but monotony. i cannot sit through a single game of football, not because theres nothing appealing about it, but because it never goes anywhere or changes. the same thing happens every year. animation/art takes away the limitations of monotony. true, the current animation industry is falling down the shitter, but this does not mean (and im talking to sinister here) that animation and art as a whole are completely insignificant in comparison.

art moves into the future while sport stands still.

also, i do not understand the mspaint argument. there is nothing appealing about the program in my opinion aside from the fact that, as wally stated, is so limited that making a masterpiece out of it would truly be an accomplishment. otherwise, there is no need to use the program unless you: 1. want the general layout and pixel consistency of mspaint, 2. don't like change, 3. dislike flash, or 4. want to create a masterpiece while limiting yourself so you have something to be proud of

other than those there is really no excuse to want to use mspaint aside from just liking it

Quote from: wpsI think a man on an island with a coconut tree survives longer than a man on an island with a painted masterpiece.


Also, making fastfood takes less time than making a traditional Chinese dish
But.. a traditional Chinese dish tastes allot better

We got all the time in the world, why speed up the process?
Quality must always be more important than quantity

What use is it for an animation to be made quickly?
It's not like the watchers would notice.
It's not like the audience would give a standing ovation for a cartoon purely because it was done in a few seconds.
Actually.. art always gets allot more admiration if the viewer understands how much time someone "wasted" on something.

Art isn't about time, it's about the love you put into it

i wholeheartedly agree with this statement but will say that it's better to take an efficient route when you're on a time limit or something

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Quote from: REvoYou sure? It'd only take a couple of minutes... and I'm pretty sure it should work on a mac...

Well if it will take you a short time, then go for it.
I just dont want to be a burden.

On an off note.

How do I customize tool bar in mac Version of CS3?

Quote from: mexifry895On an off note.

How do I customize tool bar in mac Version of CS3?

Sorry to be a bother to everyone, but I answer all my own questions.

Thanks for uh... support.
lol

somebody summarize this thread for me

The bottom line is that unless you make someone interested, nobody is going to care what you had to do to make anything if they dont like it in the first place.

now everybody stop fuckn arguing goddamn

It looked nice. I didn't understand it, but at least you made your own stuff for it.

Quote from: davidmoore0It looked nice. I didn't understand it, but at least you made your own stuff for it.

wah!!
Drawing With Pixels is hella hard!

...this topic was kinda intense...

(((ryan/rtil))) says:
man this game is INTENSE

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Quote from: REvoYou sure? It'd only take a couple of minutes... and I'm pretty sure it should work on a mac...

Well if it will take you a short time, then go for it.
I just dont want to be a burden.

On an off note.

How do I customize tool bar in mac Version of CS3?

Quote from: mexifry895On an off note.

How do I customize tool bar in mac Version of CS3?

Sorry to be a bother to everyone, but I answer all my own questions.

Thanks for uh... support.
lol

so you got pixel tools to work?

I haven't had access to a computer much over the past few days so I didn't even see this yet until now!

Anyway I lurved this it was a lot of fun. I think I liked it more than the original. Also I gotta try that pixel extension sometime.

Yep.

Quote from: rtilso you got pixel tools to work?

Yep.
It's hard to use efficiently.
I'm gonna come back to it later.

Quote from: mexifry895

Quote from: rtilso you got pixel tools to work?

Yep.
It's hard to use efficiently.
I'm gonna come back to it later.

I actually kinda like it (go look at my art in the contest 19 thread)

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Quote from: rtilso you got pixel tools to work?

Yep.
It's hard to use efficiently.
I'm gonna come back to it later.

I actually kinda like it (go look at my art in the contest 19 thread)

It is probably like how my tablet first was, you get used to it.

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Quote from: rtilso you got pixel tools to work?

Yep.
It's hard to use efficiently.
I'm gonna come back to it later.

I actually kinda like it (go look at my art in the contest 19 thread)

It is probably like how my tablet first was, you get used to it.

Haha idk, but if that is how you want to look at it. Just try some basic stuff and move up from there.

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Quote from: rtilso you got pixel tools to work?

Yep.
It's hard to use efficiently.
I'm gonna come back to it later.

I actually kinda like it (go look at my art in the contest 19 thread)

It is probably like how my tablet first was, you get used to it.

Haha idk, but if that is how you want to look at it. Just try some basic stuff and move up from there.

I'm gonna work on my new project I've been meaning to start.

lauchrzx: mtCOONer
sAlaDofMetal: mtkakuner
lauchrzx: empty kakuna
sAlaDofMetal: that makes no sense!
lauchrzx: its wats legft of a kakuna wen it evolves in2 a beedrill
sAlaDofMetal: nuh uh
sAlaDofMetal: birds eat it
lauchrzx: surely they leave behind a molt or husk
lauchrzx: hsk
sAlaDofMetal: ooo esse
sAlaDofMetal: *essen
lauchrzx: if pidgeys ate kakunas
lauchrzx: that would explain why you cant fucking find any in blue version
sAlaDofMetal: lmao
sAlaDofMetal: but then what happens to metapods!
lauchrzx: they just look silly
sAlaDofMetal: no i mean who eats them
sAlaDofMetal: the spearows//>
lauchrzx: dey gotta eat!
sAlaDofMetal: then who eats the ledybas and spinaraks
sAlaDofMetal: spinaraki
sAlaDofMetal: *spinaraqi
lauchrzx: hoothoot a n noct0ws
sAlaDofMetal: noctowelheads
sAlaDofMetal: dam pokemon must hate pakis!
lauchrzx: hooters and towelheads
lauchrzx: how is that game not american!
sAlaDofMetal: lm,aaa
sAlaDofMetal: what other pokemon could be pakis
lauchrzx: zigzagdunecoon
sAlaDofMetal: ehehehe
sAlaDofMetal: talibird
sAlaDofMetal: :/
lauchrzx: lmao
sAlaDofMetal: that would actually be cool cause he could throw bombs outta his lil bag and blow up buildings and shit
lauchrzx: he would eet zionists insteads of metapods
sAlaDofMetal: lmao

oh my god

lmfao I love lauch

I love these arguments where everyone is saying the exact same thing as the other people and yet continue arguing as if the argument makes logical sense.

THE SKY IS BLUE
_
NO YOU FUCK, ITS BLUE
_
FUCK YOU AND YOUR SKY BLUE SHIT, ITS BLUE I TELLS YAH!
_
ACTUALLY ALL 3 OF YOU ARE WRONG. IT IS NOT BLUE. IT IS BLUE. HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF BLUE TO PROVE IT.

don't bother making humorous analysis of forum arguments like you're innocent of ever being involved in one. they happen all the time, and they're fruitless, but they happen, much like a million other things

rtil, if you could list a few favorite songs by Junior Senior, what would they be?

boy meets girl
take your time
chicks and dicks
rhythm bandits
move your feet
good girl, bad boy
dynamite
white trash
can i get get get

most of that stuff is from their first album, which imo i think is better

out of all those my favorite is probably boy meets girl

QuoteAped3sign says: "WoWoW"

SO DARN QUTEEEEEEE!!!! GEEEEEZ! Nice animated.. you most be japanese (busted)

You "most" be japanese dude, your busted haha

Quote from: rtildon't bother making humorous analysis of forum arguments like you're innocent of ever being involved in one.

I never said I haven't!
If you can find where I have be my guest.
Honestly I enjoy a good argument.

I just find this particular breed of debate amusing because noone is really saying anything. It's like each time CartoonBrew has a huge debate. Everyone agrees, but they all still shout.
I don't know if that was Sinista's original aim when he started this thing, but that's what it devolved into, anyway.

Quote from: rtilthey happen all the time, and they're fruitless, but they happen, much like a million other things

well yeah.

This thread pratically turned into IMDB.

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QuoteAped3sign says: "WoWoW"

SO DARN QUTEEEEEEE!!!! GEEEEEZ! Nice animated.. you most be japanese (busted)

You "most" be japanese dude, your busted haha

was that somebody's review? lmao

okay.. so this movie is basically the reason i joined the site. yeah it's awesome and everything... but actually i think the thing that makes it so awesome is the music. the animation is pixelly goodness, but the music is just addicting.

b b b b b b b BANDITZ
RHYTHUUUUUUUUUUM

Quote from: rtilout of all those my favorite is probably boy meets girl

Ugh. I just listened to that song as well as the live version of Move Your Feet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqptH_JNKCQ&NR=1). I strongly disliked the song Boy Meets Girl and the live version of Move Your feet was far less superior to the solid studio version.

ok well i liked their music more than you, WAC
I thought can I get get get was okay

I HAS OPINIONS

The knife is my favorite character.


His smile is so cool.

what size for the pixel tool did you use?


I wanna make a buddy icon of that knife.

i most often used 8, 6 and 20. BG's were like 40 or 50

Quote from: rtili most often used 8, 6 and 20. BG's were like 40 or 50

That's my problem.
I didn't know what size to use.
This song is too perfect to make a video to.
Make me want to after I'm done with this project, but not pixelated like yours.
(even though it follows the original video)
I don't want people to be like you stole rtil's video or whatever.

lmao. people accuse everyone of stealing all the time. they like to draw parallels for no reason

Quote from: rtillmao. people accuse everyone of stealing all the time. they like to draw parallels for no reason

There's no use avoiding that.
It's just that song is so like music video perfect.
Would you be apposed to me making a video to this song in the future?

Congratulations rtil for being 2nd Best of the Week!! I hope you've prepared yourself for the reviews, and probably new members...

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Quote from: rtillmao. people accuse everyone of stealing all the time. they like to draw parallels for no reason

There's no use avoiding that.
It's just that song is so like music video perfect.
Would you be apposed to me making a video to this song in the future?

i'm not particularly interested in making any more junior senior music videos

Quote from: SHADOWFOX2Congratulations rtil for being 2nd Best of the Week!! I hope you've prepared yourself for the reviews, and probably new members...

i would have also gotten rcp if it wasn't for the robot rangers. sucks cuz it was the only chance i really ever had with a 9.6 average. maybe next time

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Quote from: rtillmao. people accuse everyone of stealing all the time. they like to draw parallels for no reason

There's no use avoiding that.
It's just that song is so like music video perfect.
Would you be apposed to me making a video to this song in the future?

i'm not particularly interested in making any more junior senior music videos

I meant would you be apposed to me making a video?

oh haha of course not

Quote from: rtiloh haha of course not

Sweet Deal.
Hey your local right?
Seattle?

well redmond actually but might as well be seattle since no one outside of washington knows where redmond is

Quote from: rtilwell redmond actually but might as well be seattle since no one outside of washington knows where redmond is

Except Nintendo Headquarters.
lol
I'm kinda close to seattle, but for my security, I won't give away that location.

well that and microsoft, but i wouldn't expect people to know that
and as far as security is concerned, i already have your IP address, and i'm not interested in killing you, so i think you're fine.

Quote from: rtilwell that and microsoft, but i wouldn't expect people to know that
and as far as security is concerned, i already have your IP address, and i'm not interested in killing you, so i think you're fine.

That's True.
But You still don't have phone number or name.
For all you know I could be using a fake ISP.
More Tacoma Than Seattle

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Quote from: rtilwell that and microsoft, but i wouldn't expect people to know that
and as far as security is concerned, i already have your IP address, and i'm not interested in killing you, so i think you're fine.

That's True.
But You still don't have phone number or name.
For all you know I could be using a fake ISP.
More Tacoma Than Seattle

Also, on an unrelated note.
What color of the rainbow comes after indego?
I'm trying to rainbow 8 letters of text for someone.

violet

i think by fake ISP you make fake/spoofed IP. if you were it'd be easy to tell because it'd be from russia or something

Quote from: rtili think by fake ISP you make fake/spoofed IP. if you were it'd be easy to tell because it'd be from russia or something

Yep.

rtil ur new cartun wuz wit liek realy loo qualidie cuz is sprietz n suxch so i votd 0x10

teh boi

pure awesomeness

P.S. that guy singing with the long shades... is he from Polysics?

If not, he looks just like the lead singer  
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yes it is

that just made me like it 2 times more D" nice references  

i've watched it like 3 times today

Quote from: fleeki've watched it like 3 times today

holy wow, someone call the guinness book of world records!

Quote from: TealonI fucking want CS3 so bad because of that plugin.

Do the easy way... First download the demo from Adobe and then google "Serial Numbers" and find it.. Thats what i did xD but i must warn you... Some of the websites with serial codes have porn advertisms

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Quote from: TealonI fucking want CS3 so bad because of that plugin.

Do the easy way... First download the demo from Adobe and then google "Serial Numbers" and find it.. Thats what i did xD but i must warn you... Some of the websites with serial codes have porn advertisms

Dude.
YOu can get the plugin w/out CS3.
ANd don't make this site liable for talk of illegal stuff.

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Quote from: monkeyscanfly

Quote from: TealonI fucking want CS3 so bad because of that plugin.

Do the easy way... First download the demo from Adobe and then google "Serial Numbers" and find it.. Thats what i did xD but i must warn you... Some of the websites with serial codes have porn advertisms

Dude.
YOu can get the plugin w/out CS3.
ANd don't make this site liable for talk of illegal stuff.

Sorry lol but the thing is im not distributing and stuff and even if they put them liable for it its the serial website's fault... But yeah im taking a risk

Quote from: mexifry895ANd don't make this site liable for talk of illegal stuff.

People here have talked about acquiring Flash CS3 illegally in the past.

yeah but we never mention it directly UNTIL NOW thanks a lot guys

anyway i'm pretty sure the plugin is compatible with 8 (but not MX or below)

Quote from: rtilyeah but we never mention it directly UNTIL NOW thanks a lot guys

anyway i'm pretty sure the plugin is compatible with 8 (but not MX or below)

I am pretty sure that it works with MX, too. It has an extension manager, too, aswell as working extra tools you can add.

then the people i've talked to using mx are retarded. they can't seem to find it

cracks, hacks, keygens and fake serials, FREE!
only at thebackalleys.com

Quote from: rtilthen the people i've talked to using mx are retarded. they can't seem to find it

i have MX and 8 installed and it's more or the less same.

theblackmarket.com

thegreasyspoon.co.uk

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i'd sure like to eat in a greasy spoon.

you could have spent your time making something alot cooler honestly, this was gay

Quote from: jebxzyou could have spent your time making something alot cooler honestly, this was gay

It was a present for someone, for Christmas. He had some sort of time limit.

I thought this was one of the best sprite movies ever made. Even if he didn't have a lot of time, unless rtil's just that good, I believe he put a lotta effort into it, and it looks outstanding as well. Probably the only sprite movie that's not only entertaining, but is also makes me hungry

"YOUR AMAZING"
by: KiDFRESSCo
date: 11 minutes ago

THIS SHOULD BE ON YOUTUBE AND IF IT GIVE ME THE LINKK HA HA
ITS GRATE YOU
HAVE A REALLY GOT IMAGINATION
DANCING FOOD

if someone wants a youtube link they'll have to rip it and encode it themselves, screw youtube

why watch it on youtube, when you can watch a much higher quality one right here

Agreed. People'll start leaving stupid replies and stuff, 3/5th of which would be retarded and or unrelated, and 1/5th of which would be replies to how retarded/unrelated the reply was...it's just too much. Here's where the original is, and NG's where you go to vote and fav it

Quote from: SHADOWFOX23/5th of which would be retarded and or unrelated, and 1/5th of which would be replies to how retarded/unrelated the reply was...

hey, shadow made his first angsty, totally valid statement!

http://au.youtube.com/results?search_query...p;search=Search (http://au.youtube.com/results?search_query=rtil&search=Search) not there, yet.

I should make an account with the name Rtil and post gay porn on it, so everytime you search Rtil, gay porn will come up. Actually bad idea, they take down porn. DAMN! Foiled again.

Quote from: MRatI should make an account with the name Rtil and post gay porn on it, so everytime you search Rtil, gay porn will come up. Actually bad idea, they take down porn. DAMN! Foiled again.

HAHAH DOOD THAT IS A GOOD IDEA LOL U R SO FUNNY

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Quote from: MRatI should make an account with the name Rtil and post gay porn on it, so everytime you search Rtil, gay porn will come up. Actually bad idea, they take down porn. DAMN! Foiled again.

HAHAH DOOD THAT IS A GOOD IDEA LOL U R SO FUNNY

You know, how smart are you, like seriously? I don't mean academically, but just overall. How smart would you consider yourself? Because, and this is just me speculating, I'm guessing you're not the sharpest tool in the shed, or your a genius and I simply don't understand your magnificence. Either way, replying with some strange sarcastic, or upset sounding, post to every post I make (and these posts are obvious tounge in cheek, mind you) doesn't seem like something a smart guy would do. Now, I know I reply to your posts too, but no one said I was a smart guy in the first place.

shut the fuck up mrat jeez

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Quote from: taylor

Quote from: MRatI should make an account with the name Rtil and post gay porn on it, so everytime you search Rtil, gay porn will come up. Actually bad idea, they take down porn. DAMN! Foiled again.

HAHAH DOOD THAT IS A GOOD IDEA LOL U R SO FUNNY

You know, how smart are you, like seriously? I don't mean academically, but just overall. How smart would you consider yourself? Because, and this is just me speculating, I'm guessing you're not the sharpest tool in the shed, or your a genius and I simply don't understand your magnificence. Either way, replying with some strange sarcastic, or upset sounding, post to every post I make (and these posts are obvious tounge in cheek, mind you) doesn't seem like something a smart guy would do. Now, I know I reply to your posts too, but no one said I was a smart guy in the first place.

im trying to tell you that you aren't funny without say something fucking gay like "Fail." or some gay shit

im sure if i said something like that you would understand though

I knew I wasn't funny ages ago. Thanks for the heads up though.

QuoteQUOTE(MRat @ Jan 17 2008, 12:14 AM) *
QUOTE(taylor @ Jan 16 2008, 04:24 PM) *
QUOTE(MRat @ Jan 16 2008, 06:33 PM) *
I should make an account with the name Rtil and post gay porn on it, so everytime you search Rtil, gay porn will come up. Actually bad idea, they take down porn. DAMN! Foiled again.

HAHAH DOOD THAT IS A GOOD IDEA LOL U R SO FUNNY


You know, how smart are you, like seriously? I don't mean academically, but just overall. How smart would you consider yourself? Because, and this is just me speculating, I'm guessing you're not the sharpest tool in the shed, or your a genius and I simply don't understand your magnificence. Either way, replying with some strange sarcastic, or upset sounding, post to every post I make (and these posts are obvious tounge in cheek, mind you) doesn't seem like something a smart guy would do. Now, I know I reply to your posts too, but no one said I was a smart guy in the first place.

im trying to tell you that you aren't funny without say something fucking gay like "Fail." or some gay shit

im sure if i said something like that you would understand though

Facepalm <3