ok my friends do some drugs and smoke cigares(cant spell) Do u think its ok if some kids to do this??????
P.S. i would NEVER do anything like that
lol i dont hang out wit them at all i just wana ask about it
People do it for the euphoric effects. But I think it is very unwise to manipulate one's brain chemistry so drastically. And many drugs have adverse affects that quite literally scramble your brain. I watched as one of my friends screwed his brain to hell because of marijuana. He wouldn't listen to me, convinced it wasn't harmful. He's no longer "all there". And this is the sort of thing that can't be undone. In life, there is no reset button (to steal a line from an old commercial).
The argument of its for fun and it won't hurt me is pathetic. Almost every story I hear about drugs involves someone almost dying, getting hurt, or some other negative result of the momentary absence of inhibitors.
Quote from: T-Bonesok my friends do some drugs and smoke cigares(cant spell) Do u think its ok if some kids to do this??????
No.
Reminds back when I was in jr. high school, this one girl asked me if I did any drugs, smoked, or drink. I said no and she then asked "Then how do you have any fun?" How pathetic.
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Reminds back when I was in jr. high school, this one girl asked me if I did any drugs, smoked, or drink. I said no and she then asked "Then how do you have any fun?" How pathetic.
Someone said something similar to me this year, too. apparantly it's impossible to have fun unless you're drunk.
Quote from: rtilapparantly it's impossible to have fun unless you're drunk.
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It is insane what people do to thier bodies because they are "bored" or need someway to get high. Now while thier may be no reset button to life, my friend used to really creep me out and was allways a little "stupid" I saw him a year later and he was cooler as well as not as dumbwitted, he told me he's been off the stuff for a year. But man, it's pathetic, what really drives a person to do this stuff? What goes on in thier idiotic mind that makes them decide that it's ok to mess yourself up and ruin your life?
They see it as merely the pursuit of euphoria. Everyone knows the harmful effects of drugs, however the users either rationalize it away or simply don't care. Others try to convince themselves that it's not harmful at all (like my friend, who would forget midsentence what he was talking about).
I can deal with people drinking as long as they are mature about it. When it comes to people I know who do drugs I won't say anything unless they involve me somehow or ask me about it. My patience fails however with the ones that push it onto you or try to convince you something must be wrong with you for not trying it. I have been told many times the reason I don't do drugs is because I am too arrogant and have a holier than though attitude. I think its because the people telling me that have shown me the results drugs.
I value my brain cells. That's why I don't do them.
i can deal with drinking and mabe smokeing around me but drugs just yesterday my friend said to me " come on and do it b****" and i almost killed him no one tells me wat i can and cant do
Wow...Seriously how fucking horrible can you people get? You all have bastardized christian values with a seemingly optimistic view. You are all hypocrits and morons.
Quote from: Elite_InsaneWow...Seriously how fucking horrible can you people get? You all have bastardized christian values with a seemingly optimistic view. You are all hypocrits and morons.
Nobodies perfect.
Let them keep at it. The sooner they die, the sooner we have less idiots to deal with. Fair enough, most drug related incidents are related to peer pressure, but there is more in life than just being feckin' cool in the eyes of your friends. Those who bow down to that sort of thing need a jump start to their brains, because half the bloody lot still out there are pushing the shit thanks to ridiculous money-making ways. A likely circumstance in Australia is through the government of all things. People would waste millions of taxpayer doallars just to get pissed or high? *sighs* they don't even have to work for it! ... unless if you count going down the local unemployment office to pick up a fortnight check. No discipline. No respect. That's the problem.
Ah well, I applaud the people who try to help out this sorry lot in any case.
Quote from: Elite_InsaneWow...Seriously how fucking horrible can you people get? You all have bastardized christian values with a seemingly optimistic view. You are all hypocrits and morons.
What the hell are you talking about? Don't just go around insulting people. Point out where we are mistaken and argue the points instead of giving the blanket statement, "You are all hypocrits and morons."
Quote from: Elite_InsaneWow...Seriously how fucking horrible can you people get? You all have bastardized christian values with a seemingly optimistic view. You are all hypocrits and morons.
Well, that gave me a good laugh.
Quote from: IrishmanWhat the hell are you talking about? Don't just go around insulting people. Point out where we are mistaken and argue the points instead of giving the blanket statement, "You are all hypocrits and morons."
How about you shove a needle through your dick
ITS NOT YOUR PARENTS POT!!!!!!!!!!
Where I live, there isn't much to do. On Friday nights and weekends it's either go out and party (e.g. drink, drugs and smoke) or don't. I know a lot of people drink at my school and I have no problem with that, but when my friends go out to blatantly get wasted it just makes me confused at why they sit outside on a night drinking vodka for 'fun'. There's just no reason to drink as much as they do.
As for drugs, I don't see the problem in trying softcore drugs once or twice. The people I know who do them are surprisingly 'together' with themselves but they do smoke a lot of weed.
I don't do anything which means I'm probably one of the cleanest people in my year. The problem is though, I can't do much on a weekend as everyone is off their heads.
nice post man
Quote from: Elite_InsaneHow about you shove a needle through your dick
ITS NOT YOUR PARENTS POT!!!!!!!!!!
You're not worth my time.
It amazes me sometimes how random and useless some people are in conversations.
Atleast thier not on drugs... lol.
lol good point but i think they r lol
There is nothing wrong with having a drink as long as you dont hurt anyone. Drinking is a personal choice and its not amoral. If you want to have a drink, drink and feel no guilt. If you want to smoke smoke. there is nothing wrong with these behaviors. The guilt that is socially imposed on you is false. In whatever you do, do it of your own will and do not regret it. It is also a wise choice to never trip alone. for safty, have a sober buddy.
Peer pressure is much more subtle than people give it credit for. It's nothing like what adults make it out to be. But whenever one is part of a group, there is a certain pressure and expectation to conform to that group's standards. It's not nearly as overt as we're lead to believe, but it certainly is there. And it's definitely the all controlling force people make it out to be.
I just don't see the benefit. I have much better things to be doing, and so does everyone else.
im in a drug free school (i think ) and nobady i know does drugs or wants to.
Quote from: darkoverlordtobeim in a drug free school
i'd be stunned if that was true.
Quote from: rtili'd be stunned if that was true.
i thought bcs was a drug free school when i first came.
Quote from: athingI agree but I will also say that I'm not a weak person that is trying to be popular.
Frankly I could give a fuck
People who have a clear idea of who they are and who they want to be tend to be more strong-willed and resilient to peer pressure. Those who's identity revolves (at least somewhat) around who their friends are (e.g. 'trendy' people) tend to be more susceptible to peer pressure. At least that's my take on it.
Its amusing to see noncomformity become the new standard, isnt it.
it ant kool
Quote from: MynameiscalledDisturbanceIts amusing to see noncomformity become the new standard, isnt it.
Quite ironic. If you ask any random person on the street they'll say that they are a non-conformist when in reality the overwhelming majority are just the opposite. And like Disturbance said, non-conformity is the new conformity. Just look at the emo fad. They're all obsessed with being different, and in doing so become exactly the same.
Quote from: MynameiscalledDisturbanceIts amusing to see noncomformity become the new standard, isnt it.
true
Quote from: IrishmanQuite ironic. If you ask any random person on the street they'll say that they are a non-conformist when in reality the overwhelming majority are just the opposite. And like Disturbance said, non-conformity is the new conformity. Just look at the emo fad. They're all obsessed with being different, and in doing so become exactly the same.
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Nice Kam. Quite frankly, I love my brain cells....
I am going to go out on a limb as someone who doesnt believe wanting to escape reality as a bad thing. Not all of us can live happy lives, sometimes people need a way out even if its only temporary.
Pretend drinking wasnt illegal until you were 21 would you do it?
If drugs werent illegal would it still be immoral? Is morality legislation? Because it is quite a ridiculas conclusion to believe that man determines morality.
Are we dealing with doing drugs as a moral issue or a practical issue. Because if it is a practical issue, it isnt all that unlike driving a car or abortion.
All i have is more question; which i know doesnt improve the conversation.
Jake
if it wasnt ilegial for any of thos i would still not do it
i want to like to be at least 80
very good idea tapistry morality is a oppinion of the ignorent masses. if one desires to be above one must forget such humanity it is a distraction nothing more.
Quote from: tapistryI am going to go out on a limb as someone who doesnt believe wanting to escape reality as a bad thing. Not all of us can live happy lives, sometimes people need a way out even if its only temporary.
Pretend drinking wasnt illegal until you were 21 would you do it?
If drugs werent illegal would it still be immoral? Is morality legislation? Because it is quite a ridiculas conclusion to believe that man determines morality.
Are we dealing with doing drugs as a moral issue or a practical issue. Because if it is a practical issue, it isnt all that unlike driving a car or abortion.
All i have is more question; which i know doesnt improve the conversation.
Wanting to escape reality is not necessarily wrong, indeed everyone does it every day. However, when that escapism becomes the point, then it is wrong. I have seen time and again drugs becoming the all consuming force driving a person's life. They eat, sleep, and work simply to get more of the drug. And that, I would say, is wrong.
If it was not illegal to drink while under 21, I would do it. However, drinking alcohol is not a morality issue perse. If one is an alcoholic then I would say it is wrong for that person to drink. Having the drinking age so high is a matter of responsibility. Teenagers are notoriously irresponsible (but so are college students as well). The problem with alcohol is not consumption, but rather the culture of irresponsibility that surrounds it. In the United States more often than not one is not held fully responsible for their actions; it is always someone else's fault. Did you do something stupid and get hurt? Blame the maker of the product! They didn't warn you, so how could you know? They should have told you! They had a sign? It should have been bigger! It doesn't help that moral relativism has engrained itself into US society such that people aren't willing to condemn another's actions and hold each other responsible
I would argue that taking a drug is quite different from driving a car and getting an abortion, in a practical sense. Risk is assumed in all cases, however the behaviors themselves are quite different. One is transportation, another medicinal, and the other simply intoxication. If everything goes right while driving, you get to your destination unharmed. If everything goes right during an abortion, one retains their health. If everything goes right with a drug, one achieves a euphoric sensation but the damage to the brain still happens. One's judgement (and sometimes motor skills) are impared.
Good questions.
Quote from: IrishmanIf everything goes right with a drug, one achieves a euphoric sensation but the damage to the brain still happens. One's judgement (and sometimes motor skills) are impared.
If impared judgment is a moral question then i say we outlaw love and make boybands illegal.
I hate the world liberal because its just distaseful and an eyesore, however im finding myself quite libertarian. I believe that the goverment should only outlaw that which infringes upon other peoples rights to pursue their own happiness and liberty. That is to say people can do pot, coke, ectasy, heroin, popper, and meth as long as it doesnt infringe upon the liberty of others.
Yeh, I understand where you're coming from tapistry. If people want to do it, then they should be able to. The only problem I see in it is where does the money go and who does it go to?
Okay, a little off topic, but if today's 'non-conformists' are actually conformists attempting to rebel by damaging themselves, then who are the real non-conformists?
My real question is this, so we have religious freedom, however what is religion? Is religion a collection of beliefs about reality? What are justified beliefs? Isnt it a tennant of religion that some of its beliefs are taken as is without proof or grounding in the physical world without verifiability? Is legislation based on unjustified beliefs moral? Im not a proponent of same sex marriage, however on what other grounds then tradition or god told me so makes it immoral? What would it mean if tradition is the basis for moral justified belief, if all i needed to do to make something moral was get a group of people together and repeat an activity then were really fucked.
Isnt freedom of religion the right not to have unjustified beliefs forced on you?
I know this doesnt make alot of sense, but i can say i tried.
I am tempted to agree with tap. Religion is a socailly based moral system, where any number of people can agree and partake in activities flagged as moral in their circle. A good example would be furries. People outside the furry society find "Yiffing" appalling and alien, where as Furries them selves are perfectly at easy with the consept of fucking in animal suits. Morality is fluid and ever-changing, and saying one system of morals is correct and true is insulting to every freethinking human on the planet. In this belief it is also true that morality does not affect the actions of a person, it only gives them guilt or regret after.
nice topics
whoot world war 3 here we come!!
i think the iraq is goin to be ww3
naa north koria has tested a nuciler bomb
ok now ww3
Religon is just a shared system of morality with belief that is dictated by a higher being. You cannot have a conversation about drugs hedonism morality without religion being brought up at least once.
well, i don't smoke anything, but i'm from BC Canada, so pretty much everyone i know does, well it is own biggest export, and i have been know to get nicely buzzed from time to time, but not full out drunk, it fucking sucks to much. i don't know why. mabey it's just me.
Religous views shouldn't limit what you can and cannot do in your lifetime. and not to mention (i'm an athist) i find it realy hard to believe in a theory that the universe and all that it contains was just kinda created by some all powerful being. I need something to back it up, and just assuming that everythings gonna be alright, isn't personaly enough for me.
kids and sex these day`s....now THATS spiraling downwards...
Quote from: DagolithReligous views shouldn't limit what you can and cannot do in your lifetime. and not to mention (i'm an athist) i find it realy hard to believe in a theory that the universe and all that it contains was just kinda created by some all powerful being. I need something to back it up, and just assuming that everythings gonna be alright, isn't personaly enough for me.
Genesis states "I (God) give you all my herbs and plants to use." So I smoke "it" every now and than.God doesn't limit what we can and cannot do, He just gives us hints and tips for a better life with the least dissapointments.There are only 10 REAL rules,you know.
About you thinking christians follow blindly,is really a wrong view.If we have questions,we ask them.If we find mistakes,we take them.If you have time, read the Bible once,so you know what you're talking about.Try to find a mistake in the bible.And if you don't feel like that...ask your question to video.google.com
"Does God Exist?" I garante an answer.
show me proof of god, and ill show u why your an ideot . but thats just me.
Quote from: darkoverlordtobeshow me proof of god, and ill show u why your an ideot . but thats just me.
FUCK YES, awww that made my day! no offence to anyone, but that was awsome.
i will not be in a battle of wits with athing because i do not fight people that are unarmed
"do not judge me by my educational standards but by my carecter"
Quote from: athingthat sentence was gay
the one by darkoverlordtobe that is
no, i thought is was awsome that he said that. he he
Calm down you two, if you don't this is going to turn into what happened bettween me, and vancredan, it's an internet fight, no one will win, although funny it would distract from the topic, but still funny..... drugs drugs drugs, eneryone's idea of a "hard" drug is different depending on where you are, around here, acid isn't realy that hardcore so, it all comes down to location. but hey, no one has the right to judge anyone else, because everyone has done MANY things there not proud of, and would not like to be judged on, so drugs realy can't be something you can label or grill someone about.
dont make me come over there!!!!!!!!!!!
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i got a whip and im not afraid to use it!
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