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http://undertale.com/ (http://undertale.com/)
Undertale the friendly rpg where everyone noone has to die.

If you haven't tried Undertale yet, well get on it. The demos RIGHT here. http://undertale.com/demo.htm (http://undertale.com/demo.htm)  Seriously if you consider looking into this, the demos the best spoiler free way.

I don't really have much to discuss without spoiling the plot, some might find the plot to be pretty cheesy but I kind of like that about it. Maybe I'll post some spoiler tagged criticisms on it if there's even a single soul out there that cares.
I like the battle system, it's like a shoot-em-up (some disagree on this though for some reason), RPG hybrid, where strangely, you don't shoot, or have to attack.

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for what, indeed.

someone said on my stream yesterday that this is objectively the best game ever made

i don't believe him

Quote from: rtil on September 27, 2015 07:08 AM
the best game ever made

Yeah I think achieving this is virtually impossible for any game. It's just one of those games I can really call an experience.

but for real if you've played mother 3 or earthbound and liked it then you'll like this game

I finished the demo.

Even though it seems to embody pretty much everything I dislike about western indie games (quirky, ironic humor mixed with ostensibly unironic moralism; self-conscious witticism that distracts from any sincere storytelling; derision of bad game tropes without actually fixing them or making new, better ones (especially apparent in the demo); Earthbound fetishism; and an undying will for the medium to be validated (http://insomnia.ac/commentary/for_artfags_only/) as "art" (http://culture.vg/features/art-theory/on-the-genealogy-of-art-games/) by both insiders and, more worryingly, outsiders, and therefore a de-emphasis on enjoyment (whoever says art shouldn't strive to be enjoyable deserves all the packaged enjoyment of an un-anesthetized lobotomy)), I'll still play it if you're recommending it. I will probably even like it.

That said, I really think it should be free.
[spoiler]So I'm torrenting it.[/spoiler]

Quote from: soap on September 28, 2015 02:29 AM
I finished the demo.

Even though it seems to embody pretty much everything I dislike about western indie games I'll still play it if you're recommending it. I will probably even like it.

I don't know why you'd keep playing if you pretty much know what to expect. But hey, I'd be interested to hear more of your input if you do play the full version.

I put the qualifier there because I expect the game to confound my expectations.

If I was blatantly wrong on any of those points I'd hope you'd correct me.

i must have either done something horribly wrong or done something the developer didn't expect because i can't beat the game. i'm stuck at the end and i am 99.99% sure there's nothing i can do to get to it, so i guess i'm done with it.

it had some funny and cute moments. the backstory reveal was pretty compelling. but overall i mostly had no idea what the fuck was going on. none of the subplots in the game seemed to connect to eachother except the very beginning and end. and in the ending i got, i did exactly what was expected of me (which is also the only thing you can do) and got a game over anyway.

and now i have no reason to trust game recommendations even though i've only spent a mere $16 and change on the last two titles i was told to purchase i didn't really like either of them. i should've stuck to my gut on this one. i'm giving it a lower score than i should because i literally cannot beat it and i'm not sitting through it again. 4/10 would not recommend. solid soundtrack though

Quote from: rtil on October  2, 2015 03:49 AM
i must have either done something horribly wrong or done something the developer didn't expect because i can't beat the game. i'm stuck at the end and i am 99.99% sure there's nothing i can do to get to it, so i guess i'm done with it.

i cant really find anyway to say how to beat the game without spoiling anything major but since you say you're done i can tell you.
[spoiler]
while i like the game, the one glaring thing i really dislike about it is that its artificially longer than it actually is. in other words, you have to play it multiple times to beat it. you are doomed to get the neutral end even if you did what the game wanted you to do, which is not to kill anything. if you spare flowey at the end without killing anything he tells you to go back before you face asgore in your save at the end of the credits. if you do you will get a call from undyne to do something. from there on i think its pretty straight forward to get the true end.

i went in blind on my first playthrough and killed flowey.. needless to say i had to restart after realizing i couldn't kill ANYTHING at all in order to get the good end. and even when i restarted he wasn't there to talk to me at the beginning because the game still 'remembers' what you did previously.

also dont do a 'genocide' run. you will literally break your game if you do. im not joking the game is permanently damaged as 'punishment'.[/spoiler]

Quote from: Stu4U on October  2, 2015 05:01 AM

Quote from: rtil on October  2, 2015 03:49 AM
i must have either done something horribly wrong or done something the developer didn't expect because i can't beat the game. i'm stuck at the end and i am 99.99% sure there's nothing i can do to get to it, so i guess i'm done with it.

i cant really find anyway to say how to beat the game without spoiling anything major but since you say you're done i can tell you.
[spoiler]
while i like the game, the one glaring thing i really dislike about it is that its artificially longer than it actually is. in other words, you have to play it multiple times to beat it. you are doomed to get the neutral end even if you did what the game wanted you to do, which is not to kill anything. if you spare flowey at the end without killing anything he tells you to go back before you face asgore in your save at the end of the credits. if you do you will get a call from undyne to do something. from there on i think its pretty straight forward to get the true end.

i went in blind on my first playthrough and killed flowey.. needless to say i had to restart after realizing i couldn't kill ANYTHING at all in order to get the good end. and even when i restarted he wasn't there to talk to me at the beginning because the game still 'remembers' what you did previously.

also dont do a 'genocide' run. you will literally break your game if you do. im not joking the game bricks itself.[/spoiler]

that's fucking retarded but i think i need to explain because i don't think i got a neutral ending or any ending for that matter

[spoiler]
the only thing i killed in the game was the lady in the house who tries to stop you from going out the door. oh and i guess the very first dummy on a stick if that even counts i don't know. i actually didn't think that fighting her would kill her, and in one hit she lost half her health and 'died'. it seemed like i had no choice to fight her and that's why i did it. with everything else it seemed like there was a way to get to spare or escape, so that's what i tried. the game doesn't really seem to lean towards combat anyway as the item and stat system is rather crude.

so after a few hours of nonsensical bullshit i get to the king, he says he has to fight me and take my soul or whatever. at this point because i have killed only 1 thing the entire game my health and hp is very low. i think i had 36hp. i have a couple healing items, but not enough to keep restoring myself so i can beat him because he takes the "mercy" menu option away and so i have no choice but to try and beat him. the closest i can get to beating him is around 25% of his health. at that point i start to run out of items, his attacks become so ridiculously fast they become impossible to dodge and i end up dying.

i let him kill me 8 times in a row thinking the game was playing some kind of trick but it's the same outcome every time. if i'm supposed to let him kill me more the game doesn't do a very good job of communicating that. so my ending is just the same old "game over" screen you get where you'd die anywhere else.

hypothetically (if the game will let me - i don't know) i could retrace my steps back to the villages and do random encounters, kill stuff/get enough gold to level up/get enough items so i could beat him, but what the fuck is the point of that? i'm pretty sure that's not what i'm supposed to do and i have zero interest in doing it as well.

also wouldn't having the king killing me be exactly what he wants? if i'm dead he can take my soul and seal off the portal or whatever, right? i thought that was the whole point, being some kind of martyr for the monster world. this game makes no fucking sense[/spoiler]

o-oh.
[spoiler]
i don't want to play the 'lol u just suck' card but yea you are supposed to beat him. as long as you're stocked up on health items and equip something with decently good defense then you should be able to do it, even if you didn't kill anything.

after you beat him he will give you the option to either finish him off or spare him (the mercy option comes back), but tbh i'm pretty sure both options lead to the same thing which is flowey comes in at the last second and absorbs the souls.. leading to the flowey fight. and if you couldn't get past the king i'd doubt you'd get past flowey because it just becomes a bullet hell by then.
also the game tries to be scary and quits itself every time you lose to flowey.[/spoiler]

Quote from: Stu4U on October  2, 2015 05:43 AM
o-oh.
[spoiler]
i don't want to play the 'lol u just suck' card but yea you are supposed to beat him. as long as you're stocked up on health items and equip something with decently good defense then you should be able to do it, even if you didn't kill anything.

after you beat him he will give you the option to either finish him off or spare him (the mercy option comes back), but tbh i'm pretty sure both options lead to the same thing which is flowey comes in at the last second and absorbs the souls.. leading to the flowey fight. and if you couldn't get past the king i'd doubt you'd get past flowey because it just becomes a bullet hell by then.
also the game tries to be scary and quits itself every time you lose to flowey.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]yes i do suck but one of my friends told me they  beat him with 20 hp so i went back and did it. turns out i was actually wrong the only healing item i had was the snowman piece. i managed to beat him with 2hp after a few more tries. i picked the mercy option and the flower closed the game. cool! now i'm actually done. now that was the piece of shit ending i can be happy with[/spoiler]

Quote from: rtil on October  2, 2015 05:59 AM

Quote from: Stu4U on October  2, 2015 05:43 AM
o-oh.
[spoiler]
i don't want to play the 'lol u just suck' card but yea you are supposed to beat him. as long as you're stocked up on health items and equip something with decently good defense then you should be able to do it, even if you didn't kill anything.

after you beat him he will give you the option to either finish him off or spare him (the mercy option comes back), but tbh i'm pretty sure both options lead to the same thing which is flowey comes in at the last second and absorbs the souls.. leading to the flowey fight. and if you couldn't get past the king i'd doubt you'd get past flowey because it just becomes a bullet hell by then.
also the game tries to be scary and quits itself every time you lose to flowey.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]yes i do suck but one of my friends told me they  beat him with 20 hp so i went back and did it. turns out i was actually wrong the only healing item i had was the snowman piece. i managed to beat him with 2hp after a few more tries. i picked the mercy option and the flower closed the game. cool! now i'm actually done. now that was the piece of shit ending i can be happy with[/spoiler]

lol

btw to anyone who thinks that the ending mechanics of Undertale have never been done before look up the VN "Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi" and i doubt that was the first game to do it either

here just watch this
[spoiler]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onRcjJ9WrHs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onRcjJ9WrHs)
[/spoiler]

after playing through undertale for the first time, i have to say it was a hell of an experience, definitely recommend

[spoiler]i can't recall the last time a game made me feel distraught- when flowey shows up, kills asgore, steals the souls, and closes the game i felt completely mind-fucked

and then the final boss fight happened jesus christ

who knew a game with so much light-hearted comedy can also genuinely terrify you[/spoiler]

Quote from: Stu4U on October  2, 2015 05:01 AM
also dont do a 'genocide' run. you will literally break your game if you do. im not joking the game is permanently damaged as 'punishment'.

quick fix for that

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lohl you suck

Quote from: BluPhoenix on October  2, 2015 04:42 PM

Quote from: Stu4U on October  2, 2015 05:01 AM
also dont do a 'genocide' run. you will literally break your game if you do. im not joking the game is permanently damaged as 'punishment'.

quick fix for that

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if u do this 🌸🌼🌸🌼🌸🌼 flowey 🌸🌼🌸🌼🌸🌼 will come to ur door and call u mean things👎👎👎 forward this to 10 people or flowey will appear tonight 🌝🌚🕛

Quote from: BluPhoenix on October  2, 2015 04:42 PM

Quote from: Stu4U on October  2, 2015 05:01 AM
also dont do a 'genocide' run. you will literally break your game if you do. im not joking the game is permanently damaged as 'punishment'.

quick fix for that

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I see many debates on whether that even works or not.  Just tested it now, doesn't work for me. [spoiler]Biscut will still be waiting...that's what I named the fallen child, don't judge me.[/spoiler]

if doing that + deleting registry keys (if there are any) doesn't work then it uses cloud data and if that can't be deleted than simply making a local copy somewhere outside of steam would work

if it's not in local, it's in roaming

I'm just starting this game but I'm noticing a lot of MegaTen influence as well as Earthbound (what with the talking to "enemies" and whatnot, but also thematically).

If you haven't yet, you can play the SF remakes of the first two games on this ROM (http://www.emuparadise.me/Super_Nintendo_Entertainment_System_%28SNES%29_ROMs/Kyuuyaku_Megami_Tensei_%28Japan%29/34348) (English TL patch (http://www.romhacking.net/translations/2263/)).

As a huge fan of Earthbound, I can honestly say I didn't care for this much. Too reliant on it's premise of being "innovative", rather than actually just being fun, made it not worthy of more than four or five hours of play for me.

Pretty bad imo

crap game until u do genocide and lay waste to all the unfunny idiots (https://thebackalleys.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FN82LzHP.png&hash=1dd235517220e56a8007fb140389b6a4d468c608)

Quote from: Gladius on October 11, 2015 12:24 AM
crap game until u do genocide and lay waste to all the unfunny idiots (https://thebackalleys.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FN82LzHP.png&hash=1dd235517220e56a8007fb140389b6a4d468c608)

i would have done this except it meant i would have had to sit through undermeme a 2nd time

Quote from: rtil on October 11, 2015 01:14 AM
undermeme

rattle me bone

Underwear

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Quote from: Kizunami on October 15, 2015 03:30 AM
bonetrousle w/ lyrics

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I hear it's all the rage in twit twat and tumblah. That's all I know. Also there's porn of it. How there's porn of these characters I don't know. The creator even encourages that people tag the porn of the game with "undertail" hah.

"Undertale porn"
*cringes softly*

people keep talking about how undertale hentai keeps popping up on their dash but ive never seen anything

hopefully it stays that way

the community makes it really hard for me to keep liking undertale.

well when you think about it a good chunk of the fanbase are furries and homestuck backwash , nothing good can come of combining these two forces

[video of homestucks spitting into bucket goes here]

With todays internet culture I think we can safely say that to like one thing is not to like its fanbase.

the posts on tumblr have put me off playing it ever it just looks like an unfunny rpg

like every single post makes me cringe.

So are people hating this game on principle yet?

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i watched a playthrough im even happier i didn't buy it

I liked it but I was surprised how meme it was after looking back at it.

Quote from: Dust on October 18, 2015 02:23 PM
So are people hating this game on principle yet?

half of 4chan because of the fanbase

but that goes without saying for any popular game

Quote from: rtil on October 19, 2015 01:26 AM

Quote from: Dust on October 18, 2015 02:23 PM
So are people hating this game on principle yet?

half of 4chan because of the fanbase

but that goes without saying for any popular game

I'd give it a chance. It may actually be good, but I probably won't think it's the single greatest game experience of my life. I've already played one game I believe to be the best in terms of story/gameplay and that's Chrono Cross with Chrono Trigger being my personal second.

I guess the music pretty good too.

Can you motherfuckers please stop talking about Undertale until I finish it. Jesus.

Also boy howdy do I have a lot to say about this game.

And yes Chrono Cross is fucking fantastic.

Quote from: ZennyPLUS on October 19, 2015 03:05 AM

Quote from: rtil on October 19, 2015 01:26 AM

Quote from: Dust on October 18, 2015 02:23 PM
So are people hating this game on principle yet?

half of 4chan because of the fanbase

but that goes without saying for any popular game

I'd give it a chance. It may actually be good, but I probably won't think it's the single greatest game experience of my life. I've already played one game I believe to be the best in terms of story/gameplay and that's Chrono Cross with Chrono Trigger being my personal second.

I guess the music pretty good too.

the music is the best part imo

clearly the majority of people who play undertale love it, but i can only describe my experience with it as lukewarm. i think generally the fans give it too much credit for being innovative when it heavily borrows mechanics and ideas from other games. not that there's anything wrong with that, but it gets overhyped because most people who play it aren't familiar with that fact since they don't seem to play japanese games (of which undertale takes a lot of its cues from)

i dont really think undertale is innovative by any means but i thoroughly enjoyed it

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Quote from: ZennyPLUS on October 19, 2015 03:05 AM

Quote from: rtil on October 19, 2015 01:26 AM

Quote from: Dust on October 18, 2015 02:23 PM
So are people hating this game on principle yet?

half of 4chan because of the fanbase

but that goes without saying for any popular game

I'd give it a chance. It may actually be good, but I probably won't think it's the single greatest game experience of my life. I've already played one game I believe to be the best in terms of story/gameplay and that's Chrono Cross with Chrono Trigger being my personal second.

I guess the music pretty good too.

the music is the best part imo

clearly the majority of people who play undertale love it, but i can only describe my experience with it as lukewarm. i think generally the fans give it too much credit for being innovative when it heavily borrows mechanics and ideas from other games. not that there's anything wrong with that, but it gets overhyped because most people who play it aren't familiar with that fact since they don't seem to play japanese games (of which undertale takes a lot of its cues from)

Interestingly enough, that how you introduce niche titles to the general public. I mean, I've never seen so many English VNs until the popularity of Katawa Shoujo took the Internet by storm (that's a bit of an exaggeration but you know what I mean). It really does open up the market. But this is borrowing from other games, although what titles -shrug-

Quote from: Des Esseintes on October 19, 2015 03:12 AM
Can you motherfuckers please stop talking about Undertale until I finish it. Jesus.

Also boy howdy do I have a lot to say about this game.

And yes Chrono Cross is fucking fantastic.

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Quote from: ZennyPLUS on October 19, 2015 03:26 AM

Quote from: rtil on October 19, 2015 03:20 AM

Quote from: ZennyPLUS on October 19, 2015 03:05 AM

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Quote from: Dust on October 18, 2015 02:23 PM
So are people hating this game on principle yet?

half of 4chan because of the fanbase

but that goes without saying for any popular game

I'd give it a chance. It may actually be good, but I probably won't think it's the single greatest game experience of my life. I've already played one game I believe to be the best in terms of story/gameplay and that's Chrono Cross with Chrono Trigger being my personal second.

I guess the music pretty good too.

the music is the best part imo

clearly the majority of people who play undertale love it, but i can only describe my experience with it as lukewarm. i think generally the fans give it too much credit for being innovative when it heavily borrows mechanics and ideas from other games. not that there's anything wrong with that, but it gets overhyped because most people who play it aren't familiar with that fact since they don't seem to play japanese games (of which undertale takes a lot of its cues from)

Interestingly enough, that how you introduce niche titles to the general public. I mean, I've never seen so many English VNs until the popularity of Katawa Shoujo took the Internet by storm (that's a bit of an exaggeration but you know what I mean). It really does open up the market. But this is borrowing from other games, although what titles -shrug-

ks was a little different because it brought a resurgence of an entire genre. undertale is just an rpg. it's more the "meta" stuff that undertale toys with that i'm talking about. the only games that it has very obvious ties to are earthbound and cave story - even the name is an homage to it.

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Quote from: ZennyPLUS on October 19, 2015 03:26 AM

Quote from: rtil on October 19, 2015 03:20 AM

Quote from: ZennyPLUS on October 19, 2015 03:05 AM

Quote from: rtil on October 19, 2015 01:26 AM

Quote from: Dust on October 18, 2015 02:23 PM
So are people hating this game on principle yet?

half of 4chan because of the fanbase

but that goes without saying for any popular game

I'd give it a chance. It may actually be good, but I probably won't think it's the single greatest game experience of my life. I've already played one game I believe to be the best in terms of story/gameplay and that's Chrono Cross with Chrono Trigger being my personal second.

I guess the music pretty good too.

the music is the best part imo

clearly the majority of people who play undertale love it, but i can only describe my experience with it as lukewarm. i think generally the fans give it too much credit for being innovative when it heavily borrows mechanics and ideas from other games. not that there's anything wrong with that, but it gets overhyped because most people who play it aren't familiar with that fact since they don't seem to play japanese games (of which undertale takes a lot of its cues from)

Interestingly enough, that how you introduce niche titles to the general public. I mean, I've never seen so many English VNs until the popularity of Katawa Shoujo took the Internet by storm (that's a bit of an exaggeration but you know what I mean). It really does open up the market. But this is borrowing from other games, although what titles -shrug-

ks was a little different because it brought a resurgence of an entire genre. undertale is just an rpg. it's more the "meta" stuff that undertale toys with that i'm talking about. the only games that it has very obvious ties to are earthbound and cave story - even the name is an homage to it.

I thought the title had something to do with furries, heh. But then again... Pixel likes kemono stuff so...

But yeah, I see what you mean, good point.

Quote from: ZennyPLUS on October 19, 2015 03:28 AM

Quote from: Des Esseintes on October 19, 2015 03:12 AM
Can you motherfuckers please stop talking about Undertale until I finish it. Jesus.

Also boy howdy do I have a lot to say about this game.

And yes Chrono Cross is fucking fantastic.

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do u have mandingos fighting to the death in ur room as u post

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Quote from: ZennyPLUS on October 19, 2015 03:28 AM

Quote from: Des Esseintes on October 19, 2015 03:12 AM
Can you motherfuckers please stop talking about Undertale until I finish it. Jesus.

Also boy howdy do I have a lot to say about this game.

And yes Chrono Cross is fucking fantastic.

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do u have mandingos fighting to the death in ur room as u post

Every Monday and Tuesday right before dinner, great show I tell you.

Quote from: BluPhoenix on October 16, 2015 05:17 PM
people keep talking about how undertale hentai keeps popping up on their dash but ive never seen anything

hopefully it stays that way

Good! I hope it doesn't show up on yours ever.

I just don't like how the protagonist is a sickly yellow color. Have you ever run into a person who is that yellow? No, you haven't because they have that yellowness take care of at the hospital in which they were born. Unless you're some nature-loving, tree-hugging, aroma-scented ass candles hippie, you gave birth to your child in some forbidden neck of the woods with a few bears as the midwifes.

Other than that, I want to play as some cute monster and devour human faces. Is that so much to ask for?

After finishing the pacifist route and getting the "True End," I'm left with three major questions:
[spoiler]

• How much more content is there in the genocide route?
• What was so bad about the underworld that made the monsters want to leave?
• Did my pacifistic, manner-instilling baphomet mom really just advocate Asgore's going to the surface and killing people?

[/spoiler]
With these answered I can finally write my big stupid textwall for closure and possibly move on with my life.

I'm open to playing the game again though depending on the answer to 1.

Quote from: Bamyasi on November 22, 2015 09:32 AM
After finishing the pacifist route and getting the "True End," I'm left with three major questions:
[spoiler]

• How much more content is there in the genocide route?
• What was so bad about the underworld that made the monsters want to leave?
• Did my pacifistic, manner-instilling baphomet mom really just advocate Asgore's going to the surface and killing people?

[/spoiler]
With these answered I can finally write my big stupid textwall for closure and possibly move on with my life.

I'm open to playing the game again though depending on the answer to 1.

[spoiler]
1. the geno run not only changes the ending to the game, but replaces the storyline of happy go lucky themes and memes entirely with nihilistic horror, and you are the ax murderer.

2. da humans banished da monsters underground cuz humans are assholes or something and now monsters all wanna get back out cuz da humans have it better than da monsters :o .... oh and its 'crowded' underground

3. i think she was just telling him how to actually cross the border while his method was just stalling for time, supporting her argument of asgore being a wimpy bitch.

Quote from: Bamyasi on November 22, 2015 09:32 AM
[spoiler]

• How much more content is there in the genocide route?
• What was so bad about the underworld that made the monsters want to leave?
• Did my pacifistic, manner-instilling baphomet mom really just advocate Asgore's going to the surface and killing people?

[/spoiler]

[spoiler]1. it's just monotonous killing until encounters stop (you'll know when they're all gone), up until you reach "new home" (place before you normally fight asgore) THEN you finally get some bits of lore you wouldn't really get in the other routes.  (actual spoiler)[spoiler] it's just Flowey explaining what it was like for him first becoming a flower.[/spoiler] 
There's also very few real bosses, most of them turn into jokes on the genocide route, with the final boss being ridiculously hard, you probably won't even pass it honestly. You don't miss too much after this though, just a simple ending.

While writing this Stu explained 2 and 3 more simply then I could. [/spoiler]

Thanks, you two.

Quote from: Stu4U on November 22, 2015 10:05 AM
[spoiler]
1. the geno run not only changes the ending to the game, but replaces the storyline of happy go lucky themes and memes entirely with nihilistic horror, and you are the ax murderer.

2. da humans banished da monsters underground cuz humans are assholes or something and now monsters all wanna get back out cuz da humans have it better than da monsters :o .... oh and its 'crowded' underground

3. i think she was just telling him how to actually cross the border while his method was just stalling for time, supporting her argument of asgore being a wimpy bitch.

[spoiler]

• Well I'm definitely playing it again, then.
• Seems undercooked, if you ask me. Someone should've bothered telling them the overworld is just as terrible and overcrowded.
• A touch out of character, but I'll buy it. Ironic she would berate someone for being that way to humans while encouraging the PC to behave passively toward monsters. I guess that shows where her loyalty actually lies, though. Then again the line was probably just Fox compensating for a minor plot hole.

[/spoiler]

Quote from: Dust on November 22, 2015 10:16 AM
[spoiler]1. it's just monotonous killing until encounters stop (you'll know when they're all gone), up until you reach "new home" (place before you normally fight asgore) THEN you finally get some bits of lore you wouldn't really get in the other routes.  (actual spoiler)[spoiler] it's just Flowey explaining what it was like for him first becoming a flower.[/spoiler] 
There's also very few real bosses, most of them turn into jokes on the genocide route, with the final boss being ridiculously hard, you probably won't even pass it honestly. You don't miss too much after this though, just a simple ending.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Eh, I'll still play it. I consider it a challenge. One of my biggest complaints about Undertale's endgame was that it only presented the pretense of difficulty, without actually being difficult, which set it apart from say, traversing Hell in Cave Story. I guess Fox wanted everyone to be able to see the ending without looking up a dumb let's play, though.[/spoiler]

If either of you have criticisms you'd like to share, I'd appreciate hearing them, because I suspect we might have some of the same gripes.

[spoiler]I guess one gripe I had was playing this game made me realize I wanted a more "mature" version of this, and by that I guess I mean one with a lot more evil characters and such. the only thing that really makes any character evil (besides flowey) is the fact they fight you to the death at all. Even Asriel if you caught him in the games epilogue state(he's allll the way at the start, I don't blame you if you missed him) after passive run says the surface is a lot more of a meaner place then the underground. "There's a lot of "Floweys" out there".

Everything down here is SO NICE, it's sick.

also for genocide, try not killing any "main boss" before clearing the areas.[/spoiler]

Quote from: Dust on November 22, 2015 10:50 AM
[spoiler]I guess one gripe I had was playing this game made me realize I wanted a more "mature" version of this, and by that I guess I mean one with a lot more evil characters and such. the only thing that really makes any character evil (besides flowey) is the fact they fight you to the death at all. Even Asriel if you caught him in the games epilogue state(he's allll the way at the start, I don't blame you if you missed him) after passive run says the surface is a lot more of a meaner place then the underground. "There's a lot of "Floweys" out there".

Everything down here is SO NICE, it's sick.

also for genocide, try not killing any "main boss" before clearing the areas.[/spoiler]

Yeah, I completely agree but I'll touch more on that in my longform essay.
[spoiler]Also, I didn't actually explore the world during the epilogue which is kind of lame of me because I'm usually disappointed when adventure games a la LoZ don't give you the option to go back and talk to everyone.[/spoiler]
Also, after unwittingly starting the game on "hard mode," I'm disappointed it doesn't continue beyond the tutorial. I preferred the alternate battle theme.

watched LPs of pacifist and genocide runs
neato game
10/10 text effects

I fucked up starting a genocide run twice. Shit.

Quote from: ZennyPLUS on December  3, 2015 04:10 AM
I fucked up starting a genocide run twice. Shit.

I like your avatar. Also do you need help with that run?

shitty game

Quote from: Dust on December  3, 2015 05:30 AM

Quote from: ZennyPLUS on December  3, 2015 04:10 AM
I fucked up starting a genocide run twice. Shit.

I like your avatar. Also do you need help with that run?

I just want to know what I have to do to start the No Mercy/Genocide storyline. I think I messed it up last time because I didn't kill the first froggit that Toriel scared off.

Quote from: ZennyPLUS on December  3, 2015 07:34 AM

Quote from: Dust on December  3, 2015 05:30 AM

Quote from: ZennyPLUS on December  3, 2015 04:10 AM
I fucked up starting a genocide run twice. Shit.

I like your avatar. Also do you need help with that run?

I just want to know what I have to do to start the No Mercy/Genocide storyline. I think I messed it up last time because I didn't kill the first froggit that Toriel scared off.

you literally have to kill every encounter you get.

and to make sure you don't mess up more, make sure you clear out places before reaching certain events such as:
[spoiler]the dead tree where you meet back up with toriel in the ruins
greater dog before the gauntlet of deadly terror
monsterkid at the bridge
mettaton's room at the end of the core[/spoiler]

people must think they're mindbendingly hilarious when they make comics with ironically bad puns and tired jokes or videos that are basically just clips of shows with undertale characters pasted on the actors

Does it give you...a bad time? HA HA HA HA kill me.

Quote from: Dust on December  4, 2015 02:33 PM
Does it give you...a bad time? HA HA HA HA kill me.

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Quote from: Dust on December  4, 2015 02:33 PM
Does it give you...a bad time? HA HA HA HA kill me.

not even inspired, just plain shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVMIjGDdbb4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVMIjGDdbb4)

hey bamyasi did you ever get around to finishing the geno run and writing that final verdict?

i'm curious since i'm tired of seeing biased reviews and critical praise its been getting on websites that no one cares about (http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/bge20_vote) except me

Maybe it was too hard for him? Hearing Bamyasi's thoughts on anything is always interesting though.

well i mean youtube is bound to have plenty of videos

Oh yes I have been distracted lately but I must stay determination.

Undyne was the last boss I managed to beat. Wouldn't recommend using a PS3 controller for that.

I'll have it finished this weekend.

Quote from: Stu4U on January 13, 2016 04:26 AM
i'm curious since i'm tired of seeing biased reviews and critical praise its been getting on websites that no one cares about (http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/bge20_vote) except me

lol, undertale is fine, just overrated. you should still play if you're curious

Stu and Dust are the people responsible for popularizing the game here.

Or at least popularizing it for me.

we would have all heard about it eventually with or without this thread. you can't escape it

Quote from: basketweaver on January 13, 2016 07:49 PM

Quote from: Stu4U on January 13, 2016 04:26 AM
i'm curious since i'm tired of seeing biased reviews and critical praise its been getting on websites that no one cares about (http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/bge20_vote) except me

lol, undertale is fine, just overrated. you should still play if you're curious

You think it's overrated?

Undertale is overrated in that it easily could have been twice as good, maybe even half as good, and still generated similar praise. If "good" sounds too subjective, substitute it for the positive adjective of your choosing.

Quote from: rtil on January 13, 2016 11:47 PM
we would have all heard about it eventually with or without this thread. you can't escape it

Oh yeah, but I for one probably wouldn't have played it if not for them.

i know you all know what i think of undertale

yet here i am, yet again, furious as ever

Quote from: soup on January 14, 2016 09:10 PM
i know you all know what i think of undertale

yet here i am, yet again, furious as ever

what do u think of undertale my friend

Quote from: soup on January 10, 2016 08:26 AM

Quote from: Soup
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thank u

okay so i played through undertale at a mate's house we all thought it was shit and went back to playing fifa

Some of my IRL nerd friends were talking about this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-mXN3akTPU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-mXN3akTPU)

Anyone plan on playing it?

what does it have to do with undertale

It's a WRPG for PC and a lot of people (my friends) are saying it's better than Undertale.

Maybe it deserves its own thread but I haven't played it and probably won't.

Mechanics look interesting though.

a lot of games are better than undertale

I'll drink to that!

Welcome to the Undertale thread, where we talk about any game better then Undertale. Like Earthbound.

darkest dungeon is a really stylish, brutally unforgiving (verging on unfair) game. ive been playing for 50+ hours but im still miles from completing it.

to make these statements relevant to the thread of undertale im going to say that yeh it is probably a way better game. it certainly looks prettier in all its lovecraftian beauty

Maybe it does deserve its own thread.

http://mynintendonews.com/2016/02/04/nintendo-developer-support-reaches-out-to-the-creator-of-undertale/ (http://mynintendonews.com/2016/02/04/nintendo-developer-support-reaches-out-to-the-creator-of-undertale/)

This happened.

Speaking of this game.

Quote from: Dust on January 13, 2016 06:45 AM
Maybe it was too hard for him?

[spoilerimg]http://www.thebackalleys.com/dump/files/1530/773Ho7_undertaletale.jpg[/spoilerimg]

Expect review soon.

xD meme!

I finally beat Undertale and, what's more, compile a series of comical reaction images about it,

Quote from: crackers on February  5, 2016 08:28 AM
xD meme!

And this is the thanks I get?

You get a pizza point.

Quote from: Dust on February  5, 2016 09:26 AM
You get a pizza point.

(https://i.imgur.com/9tm781u.jpg)

Quote from: rtil on February  6, 2016 06:25 AM
an NES

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hahahahhahahahahahhaahahah

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pull the trigger piglet

Quote from: rtil on February  6, 2016 06:25 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/9tm781u.jpg)

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Looking for the guy dressed as Alduin who's cock I sucked at dragoncon, PLEASE inbox me. i think i took your wallet. it looks like a NES

#dragoncon #alduin #liftshertail

I just got access to this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeLyvSHyGb4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeLyvSHyGb4)

Quote from: Unless on March 24, 2016 12:20 PM
<Ashly Bae humping a skeleton on top of a tuxedo mask body pillow>

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And here was I, worrying I'd never develop an interest.

its a stupid pandering meme game for babies of course you would like it

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Say what you will of Unfundertale but please do not mess with my Unless.

Quote from: soup on March 24, 2016 11:59 PM
its a stupid pandering meme game for babies of course you would like it

<MEME>

Why did you repost the same meme you posted last month? Doesn't that devalue its dankness?

pull the trigger piglet

Quote from: Bamyasi on March 25, 2016 01:28 AM
do not mess with my Unless.

Can we negotiate ownership

For a price

say

10 pizza points?

reposting a meme only makes it stronger thats the whole point of a meme you nugget

I had meant politics. Still haven't played this game yet but have been eagerly awaiting, and am expecting something that's decent despite being over-hyped.

just ignore the fanbase (if that's even possible anymore)

the fanon versions of undertale characters are 10x worse than the canon ones

Quote from: Bamyasi on March 26, 2016 02:18 AM
For a price

say

10 pizza points?

Done, they're all yours.

Unless do I get to ask you to wear skirts now


[spoiler]

Quote from: Unless on March 26, 2016 08:21 PM
I had meant politics. Still haven't played this game yet but have been eagerly awaiting, and am expecting something that's decent despite being over-hyped.

You might enjoy it, but don't expect to talk with anyone else about it if you don't want to run into some people who are literally obsessed with toriel's ass/sexualizing the caracters/shoving the characters into everything else/touhou fandom v2
[/spoiler]

[spoiler]

Quote from: Bamyasi on March 26, 2016 02:18 AM

Quote from: Binary_2 on March 26, 2016 01:50 AM

Quote from: Bamyasi on March 25, 2016 01:28 AM
do not mess with my Unless.

Can we negotiate ownership

For a price

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lP5Og2tyVQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lP5Og2tyVQ)

Quote from: Binary_2 on March 26, 2016 10:27 PM
Unless do I get to ask you to wear skirts now

You are welcome to ask.
[/spoiler]

Quote from: Binary_2 on March 26, 2016 10:27 PM
You might enjoy it, but don't expect to talk with anyone else about it if you don't want to run into some people who are literally obsessed with toriel's ass/sexualizing the caracters/shoving the characters into everything else/touhou fandom v2

Quote from: rtil on March 26, 2016 09:36 PM
just ignore the fanbase (if that's even possible anymore)

the fanon versions of undertale characters are 10x worse than the canon ones

I think I'm pretty good at disregarding maniacal fanatics generally. I'll just play it offline and enjoy it for what it is, then maybe get into the fanon afterwards, if that's something that appeals to me.

[spoiler]

Quote from: Unless on March 26, 2016 10:45 PM
You are welcome to ask.

YES please DO IT

[/spoiler]

Not until I get my 10 pizza points.

Quote from: mealguien on February  5, 2016 03:13 AM
http://mynintendonews.com/2016/02/04/nintendo-developer-support-reaches-out-to-the-creator-of-undertale/ (http://mynintendonews.com/2016/02/04/nintendo-developer-support-reaches-out-to-the-creator-of-undertale/)

This happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Wn4KPp7BI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Wn4KPp7BI)

praise (https://i.imgur.com/MNm18os.png)

>paying for that game again

i already made that mistake once