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Title: animator expo shorts
Post by: rtil on December 3, 2014 11:28 PM
discuss ME!ME!ME! (http://animatorexpo.com/mememe/) and all the other shorts being released at animatorexpo (http://animatorexpo.com/titlelist/)

my favorite so far is "Dragon Dentist"
[webm]http://smile-ora.nicovideo.jp/smile?m=24848447.51606[/webm]

others release so far include hill climb girl (http://animatorexpo.com/hillclimbgirl/) and carnage (http://animatorexpo.com/carnage/)

to get subtitles on them, click this button under each vid
(https://thebackalleys.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwJ2k481.png&hash=c1af0cb27a7268a6c73e102b997d07daeba516e4)
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: Kött on December 15, 2014 12:27 AM
Mememe is pretty damn amazing on more than one level. Beautifully animated, an interesting criticism about the anime industry and its fans and an amazing way of transforming something seemingly mundane a well executed story... I'm still not sure whether I have understood all aspects about the film since there is a lot to analyze, but I can definitely say that it gave me goosebumps the first time I watched it...
A must watch for every anime fan imo.

The sad thing, however, is that I haven't even seen or heard of any others yet...

Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: Kött on December 15, 2014 12:32 AM
The official website is lagging like hell recently... which might be a good sign as it shows that the project keeps attracting more and more attention, but the clips take ages to load. So far I haven't found any alternative source yet but if any of you guys know another way to watch or even download the films, be sure to let us know.
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: SrsSam77 on December 15, 2014 12:50 AM
Quote from: Kött on December 15, 2014 12:27 AM
A must watch for every anime fan imo.

Hell I probably fall in with these casuals but I already cringe hearing the relatively nerdy dudes in class talking about how mememe was "lol XD SOOOO TRIPPY"
I do NOT want to deal with narutards and snk cosplayers talking about how it's their favorite animu and how they've totally read the mango


I do heavily enjoy mememe though and I've watched it about 30 times and I believe I'm starting to gain an understanding of it, perhaps soon enough I'll make a long post about it
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: Gerkinman on December 15, 2014 02:21 AM
ME!ME!ME! is what I love about the best of Japanese animation. Its dynamic. Its neither ambiguous nor heavy handed with its message. Its consistently engaging and it doesn't outstay its welcome. All kinds of wonderful.
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: rtil on December 15, 2014 07:05 AM
Quote from: Gerkinman on December 15, 2014 02:21 AM
ME!ME!ME! is what I love about the best of Japanese animation. Its dynamic. Its neither ambiguous nor heavy handed with its message. Its consistently engaging and it doesn't outstay its welcome. All kinds of wonderful.

Quote from: Gerkinman on December 15, 2014 02:21 AM
ME!ME!ME! is what I love about the best of Japanese animation. Its dynamic. Its neither ambiguous nor heavy handed with its message. Its consistently engaging and it doesn't outstay its welcome. All kinds of wonderful.

i wish i could find the interview i read from some of the creators behind it, they were talking about some hilarious things like the history of boob bounce animation in japan and its origins from early gainax people.. they take their craft very seriously
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: Gerkinman on December 15, 2014 01:15 PM
Quote from: rtil on December 15, 2014 07:05 AM
Quote from: Gerkinman on December 15, 2014 02:21 AM
ME!ME!ME! is what I love about the best of Japanese animation. Its dynamic. Its neither ambiguous nor heavy handed with its message. Its consistently engaging and it doesn't outstay its welcome. All kinds of wonderful.

Quote from: Gerkinman on December 15, 2014 02:21 AM
ME!ME!ME! is what I love about the best of Japanese animation. Its dynamic. Its neither ambiguous nor heavy handed with its message. Its consistently engaging and it doesn't outstay its welcome. All kinds of wonderful.

i wish i could find the interview i read from some of the creators behind it, they were talking about some hilarious things like the history of boob bounce animation in japan and its origins from early gainax people.. they take their craft very seriously

That sounds like a good read, I hope one day someone stumbles on it again and posts it here.
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: crackers on December 15, 2014 02:21 PM
Me!Me!Me! was t&a not much else to say

Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: rtil on December 15, 2014 02:41 PM
Quote from: crackers on December 15, 2014 02:21 PM
Me!Me!Me! was t&a not much else to say



i think some people are overanalyzing it but it's definitely more than just fanservice, there's clearly a story behind the girl and the guy. also the lyrics are important, translated they come out like this:

Quoteいつだって いつだって 君と二人でいたよね いつだって いつだって 君の事考えていたんだ 君のそば
この先も この先も ????? ????いたんだよ
We were together all the time
I was always thinking about you
Like your...
(can't hear the lyrics clearly)
———
2:47 - 3:18
君が言うんだ
私は君の中の 悲しみ 憎しみ
創り出すのは 嘘?
君が創った 私は本当?
私の心 君の都合の良い思いで
交わる or 変わる
You told me
I am the sorrow and hatred within you
What you made up was a lie?
Are you sure you didn't make an idol out of me?
Your narrow mind and false memories
will change
———
3:57 - 4:29
優柔不断の産物から 徐々に生きるヒント教えてよ
ヤバイ不満 オブラートに包む現
直接的爆砕 一刀両断 犯される毎日
愛して返して 今までの分
全部消すことが出来たなら
深い底へ 落ちていく意識 しきりに言い聞かす 憂さ晴らし
君に 歌う歌う 君は耐え難い 君は今は居ない キラキラと薄く
Slowly tell me a life lesson from the fruit of your indecisive mind
Extreme unsatisfaction, many realities covered with a wafer
Direct blasting, cut in two, days that were cut into two
Love me, give me back
What I have given to you until now
If only I can erase them,
I will fall into the deepest depths, falling into the unconscious,
I kept telling myself, a diversion
I will sing, sing for you, you are unbearable,
You are not here, fading out with sparkles
———
4:30 - 5:10
思い出すは 君の匂い
もう遠くまで 意識に君一人残ったのを
あの時同じ夢 見ていたから こうやって
あの時と同じように 君のこと思っている
君が思っているより 私泣き虫だよ ここで待ってる
I remember your scent
I am miles away, you are only thing I have on my mind.
I was dreaming the same dream, in that moment, so...
I am thinking about you like that time
I am a cry baby, more than you can imagine
I will be waiting for you
———
[Shuu screams and morphs]
———
5:32-6:26
貯まりに貯まって、溢れそうで 美化に美化 重ねてしまった いいな いいな あの娘(こ)楽しそう いいな いいな あの娘(こ)は いいな いいな あの娘(こ)楽しそう いいな いいな あの娘(こ)は
貯まりに貯まって、溢れそうで 美化に美化 重ねてしまった いいな いいな 重ねてしまった いいな いいな 重ねてしまった
(repeating some words from next song.)
———
6:40 - 7:49
君は今 なにをして生きる
君は今 なにをして生きたい?
いつまで経っても 君は敗北 笑って暮らしているようで 怖いくらい 躓きそうで (??の無効で?) 貯まりに貯まって、溢れそうで 光景 あの時の思い出 美化に美化 重ねてしまった いいな いいな あの娘(こ)楽しそう いいな いいな あの娘(こ)は 私は私で がんばった あなたは あなたで なにしてるの? 気づいた時には粉々の鏡 あなたに気づいて欲しかった
あなたから あなたから (?)
待っていたのに 愛していたのに
hey hello hey (????)
hey hello
hey hello look at sky
どこにも もう居ない
さよなら
What are you doing now?
How are you going to live?
No matter how long you live, you are a loser
Even though you are smiling
(something) almost frightening
It built up and up, about to overflow
The figure, those memories
Over-glorified, one after another
Envy Envy, that side looks fun
Envy Envy, that girl
I have tried my best
What have you "tried" as you?
When you finally realised, it is a shattered mirror
I wish you would notice
From your side, from your side
I was waiting for you, I loved you
hey hello hey (something)
hey hello
hey hello, look at sky
I won't be anywhere, anymore
Goodbye.
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: crackers on December 15, 2014 04:05 PM
i get where you're coming from but when something's that gratuitously sexualised i find it hard to stomach let alone analyse for deeper meaning
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: crackers on December 15, 2014 04:06 PM
would I show it to my mum ----> no

could i ever explain to my mum ----> no

therefore - it's not art
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: Gilthwixt on December 15, 2014 06:53 PM
I wasn't aware your mum was the expert authority on all things art :^)
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: crackers on December 15, 2014 07:22 PM
i wasn't aware you were trying to get smart with me you anime loving pedophile :^)
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: crackers on December 15, 2014 07:23 PM
when you think of hiroshima do you close your eyes and weep irradiated tears? real irradiated tears?
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: soup on December 15, 2014 07:24 PM
shots fired

bombs dropped
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: Gilthwixt on December 15, 2014 07:53 PM
I'm just saying, there's probably a fuck ton of art out there that you wouldn't show or be able to explain to your mom. So what? That doesn't mean it has no artistic value. I totally understand how you feel about Me!Me!Me!, it's not something I would show a casual acquaintance or anyone I know that wouldn't feel comfortable watching it, let alone appreciate it. But that's fine, because if every work of art ever made was inoffensive and familiar enough for everyone in the world to appreciate, what would the point of making art be? Shit would be boring.

Or would you rather all art just be giant balloon dog sculptures (https://www.google.com/search?q=giant+balloon+dog+jeff+koons&biw=1745&bih=868&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9zuPVNX1LJLvgwSL9YK4DA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg#imgdii=_)?
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: crackers on December 15, 2014 07:57 PM
stop being so understanding and call me a cunt or something
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: SrsSam77 on December 15, 2014 09:50 PM
Quote from: rtil on December 15, 2014 02:41 PM
long quote with the lyrics

Wow, this only further reinforces my ideas about it. Not being able to speak japanese, I kept forgetting that the lyrics weren't flavor words
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: Gerkinman on December 16, 2014 01:04 AM
Quote from: Gilthwixt on December 15, 2014 07:53 PM
Or would you rather all art just be giant balloon dog sculptures (https://www.google.com/search?q=giant+balloon+dog+jeff+koons&biw=1745&bih=868&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9zuPVNX1LJLvgwSL9YK4DA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg#imgdii=_)?

Oh my, those are lewd!
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: rtil on December 16, 2014 02:38 AM
Quote from: crackers on December 15, 2014 04:05 PM
i get where you're coming from but when something's that gratuitously sexualised i find it hard to stomach let alone analyse for deeper meaning

fair enough, it's not for everyone. i do think some parts of it were gross, but i believe it was intentional
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Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: Stu4U on December 17, 2014 10:00 PM
o-oh
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: Gerkinman on December 17, 2014 11:06 PM
Knowing is half the battle!
Title: Re: <a href="http://www.deerwoodcabins.com/herve-leger-on-sale/Christmas-gifts-of-herve-leger-colorb
Post by: Stu4U on December 17, 2014 11:54 PM
especially when the first sentence is

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Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: SrsSam77 on December 25, 2014 11:37 AM
So in an effort to be able to write a good deconstruction of mememe I managed to watch it while having the lyrics to the side (thanks tatami galaxy) and godamn syuchan was just getting fukken rekt, the lyrics really reinforce what I already gathered through watching the video so many times and even drove home a few things I didn't even see without them, namely the bits between 3:57-5:10
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: rtil on January 15, 2015 02:27 PM
tomorrow TRIGGER's short "Super Human Samurai Syber-Squad" will be released

in the meantime, here are the official track releases for ME!ME!ME!

http://www.thebackalleys.com/ok/01%20ME%21ME%21ME%21%20feat.%20daoko_pt.1.mp3 (http://www.thebackalleys.com/ok/01%20ME%21ME%21ME%21%20feat.%20daoko_pt.1.mp3)
http://www.thebackalleys.com/ok/01%20ME%21ME%21ME%21%20feat.%20daoko_pt.2.mp3 (http://www.thebackalleys.com/ok/01%20ME%21ME%21ME%21%20feat.%20daoko_pt.2.mp3)
http://www.thebackalleys.com/ok/01%20ME%21ME%21ME%21%20feat.%20daoko_pt.3.mp3 (http://www.thebackalleys.com/ok/01%20ME%21ME%21ME%21%20feat.%20daoko_pt.3.mp3)
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: cipher on January 17, 2015 04:43 AM
maybe it's my speakers or something but I feel like they need to take another pass at the mixing, vocals are so quiet
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: rtil on January 17, 2015 06:57 AM
it's now up. no subs needed, there's only one line of dialogue and it's in english http://animatorexpo.com/gridman/ (http://animatorexpo.com/gridman/)
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: Gilthwixt on January 21, 2015 05:19 PM
YOUTUBERS REACT TO ME!ME!ME! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-KWgP_teoc#ws)

Don't know how you guys feel about FineBros but I was surprised at how aware their "react" episode was to Me!Me!Me!. It basically came down to what we had to say here: some of them were immediately turned-off to the nudity and "shock value", while some of them immediately understood the message behind the video and visuals.
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: BluPhoenix on January 21, 2015 06:53 PM
when i saw that ijustine and shane dawson were in this video i let out a groan loud enough to break tempered glass

i did admire how chill and insightful markiplier was though
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: Gilthwixt on January 21, 2015 08:14 PM
I generally don't follow personalities on youtube, never heard of ijustine or shane before this. Justine's reaction is pretty much how I would expect any mainstream american girl who's never watched anime to react. Shane comes off as a total douche. "I just don't like cartoons" - I had hope that this line of thinking would die out with older generations but apparently not.
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: rtil on January 22, 2015 12:49 AM
i don't know who any of these people are but they pretty much act like how i'd expect some random american their age that you pulled off the street to react. not really surprising imo.
Title: Re: animator expo shorts
Post by: Gerkinman on February 23, 2015 01:18 PM
More like Youtumor's react amiright knthnxbai im here all week.