following the leaks, it looks like nick has rushed together a trailer for book 3 and plans to release it sooner than they had wanted.
The Legend of Korra: Book 3 Official Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0UBbzeFc74#ws)
some things we know based on what's been revealed/leaked:
- zuko is alive and kicking ass and also has a dragon or something
- a lot of people can airbend now because of something Korra did
- there is a sparky boom boom/combustion woman
- Lin has some sort of relative or sibling, or is close to someone in the Earth kingdom who looks a hell of a lot like her
- lavabending is a thing
personally i have higher expectations for this season than the last. the middle arc of season 2 was good, but the first few episodes were mostly trash and the ending was way overdone to the point of being absurd. looks like season 3 is more grounded than the previous one, and has a lot more characters and familiar faces we've missed.
Judging from some of these scenes I get the feeling we're going to see a lot more flashbacks and stories from the past. It looks like the new villains are a sort of anti-thesis to Aang's group that they previously mentored and/or ended up imprisoning. For example, check out the imprisoned airbender @ 1:04. I think this airbender is also the bald man with the glider and the young airbender @0:49. It looks like he's friends with the water bender that attacks Mako (notably using Katara's signature tentacle arms), the Lava/Earth Bender and the SSB Chick, judging from @1:45.
it's kind of funny how the best way the writers can resonate with the fans is to have flashbacks or bring back old characters from ATLA, because they failed to create a character that fans could get as attached to in LoK.
that's because all they focused on with the new characters were love triangles
which i hope to god doesn't happen this season.
i think they learned their lesson in book 2. everyone's tired of the shipping. focus on the story not the relationships
Come on rtil, we already have two book threads.
they are for specific books
Shall I write a book about how you just ruined my hilarious joke?
only if i can write a review about how it wasn't funny
Only if it's titled Lies and Slander: A Personal Journey by Rev. Tittybang Idiot Loser, PhD.
you're a regular card
Then you must be a holographic one, because I wouldn't trade you for the world.
i never knew stockholm syndrome could be so pathetically cute
I'd kiss you but this barbed wire is really tight.
season 3's premiere will be June 27th at 7pm on Nickelodeon (NOT Nicktoons!)
there's a preview clip here (http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/20/exclusive-the-legend-of-korra-book-three-premiere-date-announcement-and-clip)
Korra's tone of voice is worrying, as is the stupid shoe-in of a reference to something we all know happened at the end of book 2. but w/e, it's just a half minute clip.
More like Book 3: Change the Channel !!! Am I right?
[spoiler]But seriously is this show any good I've heard mixed things. I didn't watch much of the first series but I guess some of what I saw was okay. I might be biased but it seemed to have this bland multiculturalist slant (sort of like a certain other similarly named franchise) and if I remember correctly the arch-villain had no motives (by which I mean James Cameron's Avatar) and was an obvious metaphor for American imperialism (in case the allusion wasn't obvious).[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bamyasi on June 23, 2014 12:40 PM
More like Book 3: Change the Channel !!! Am I right?
[spoiler]But seriously is this show any good I've heard mixed things. I didn't watch much of the first series but I guess some of what I saw was okay. I might be biased but it seemed to have this bland multiculturalist slant (sort of like a certain other similarly named franchise) and if I remember correctly the arch-villain had no motives (by which I mean James Cameron's Avatar) and was an obvious metaphor for American imperialism (in case the allusion wasn't obvious).[/spoiler]
ATLA is mostly good, i think its strongest point is its character development. while Ozai is the main villain and the "final boss", he is definitely nowhere near the most interesting part of the series. the best part about ATLA is watching "Team Avatar" grow up (even if the course of the events in the series are about a year long iirc), and the story of Zuko's internal conflicts. every main character has their own story arc as well, revealing more about them than is at their surface. so there's a lot of dimension to them and the strong writing helps reflect that.
and even though the Fire Nation is painted with a broad brush, it's less about the people and more about the leadership. Same with Ba Sing Se, which is an Earth Kingdom city and has arguably even worse problems than the Fire Nation.
now Korra is kind of a different story. at the end of ATLA you are pretty attached to the main cast because they've been through so much and generally they are all relatable and likable in some way. but Korra spent too much time dealing with romance and Korra spends most of her time being a stubborn bitch to everyone so it's hard to root for her. same with the lead male Mako. he is kind of one dimensional and somehow Korra falls for him seemingly mostly for his looks. i guess they sort of resonate with the attitude. anyway, the villain of Book 1 was awesome, but the season was so short so everything felt stunted.
Book 2 was bizarre. It started off horribly, had a strong middle, and then a totally absurd ending. The best characters in it were a comic relief character who did actually tie in to the plot and the return of a beloved ATLA character.
and that's the main issue with TLOK. the best way TLOK can resonate with Avatar fans is by referencing or calling back to ATLA, because ATLA had much more memorable characters.
i think the only thing about Korra that is better than the originals is the animation and art. ATLA's art and animation can be wonky at times. and it has more of an "american trying to draw anime" look that doesn't do it many favors. but it's not bad by any means.
i don't think ATLA is a classic, but i do think it opened a lot of doors for american animation fans, and showed that serious animated series with ongoing stories that deal with very human and sometimes even dark themes is something that viewers of all ages can enjoy. it's an important series and is successful for good reasons. it has its flaws, and Korra has more, but they both get decent markings in my books.
Okay I'll give the first series a watch. I think we already have the DVDs anyway. From what you're saying it sounds like the creators should have made a new franchise rather than milking this one, but it's a wonder something like it (a linear Nickelodeon series) even got made in the first place (still mad about Constant Payne). Did they replace all the writers or something for this one? And yeah that "American trying to draw anime" feeling is what put me off from the first series originally, but I can look past it.
Also Korra sounds like a bitch. Really all I know about her writing is what I learned from a troll chart comparing heroines in Japanese vs. American cartoons which I don't have because I am not at home.
[spoiler]Still confused as to why the seasons are called "books".[/spoiler]
Quote from: Bamyasi on June 23, 2014 03:29 PM
Okay I'll give the first series a watch. I think we already have the DVDs anyway. From what you're saying it sounds like the creators should have made a new franchise rather than milking this one, but it's a wonder something like it (a linear Nickelodeon series) even got made in the first place (still mad about Constant Payne). Did they replace all the writers or something for this one? And yeah that "American trying to draw anime" feeling is what put me off from the first series originally, but I can look past it.
Also Korra sounds like a bitch. Really all I know about her writing is what I learned from a troll chart comparing heroines in Japanese vs. American cartoons which I don't have because I am not at home.
[spoiler]Still confused as to why the seasons are called "books".[/spoiler]
When the teasers for Korra came out a lot of us were pretty excited. The 70 year time skip to what is essentially industrial-era New York should have made for great world building and served as a strong base for a continuation of the Avatar mythos. Some of that was present in Book 1, with the amazing villain that rtil described, it's just that the execution was so poor with the bad romance subplots and terrible development of our heroes. Honestly, this series could have been completely different in a good way. Brian and Mike (the creators) took over much of the writing duties this time around, with only 2 out of 8 other additional writers from AtLAB continuing on to write Korra and only 1 out of 5 previous episode directors. It really feels similar to what George Lucas did with the Star Wars prequels.
Korra is a bitch. If you want good female characters (protagonists and antagonists) watch the first series.
Quote from: Gilthwixt on June 23, 2014 04:51 PM
If you want good female characters (protagonists and antagonists) watch the first series.
Okay I'm officially convinced.
Quote from: Gilthwixt on June 23, 2014 04:51 PM
It really feels similar to what George Lucas did with the Star Wars prequels.
oh god
korra needs a plinkett review
watched this and it's a kids show with no real depth of plot, locking this thread
le wop face
I'm rewatching the last airbender and i'm very convinced that a lot of what is missing in Korra is in the original show. I couldn't stand season 2, it felt like Ep 1 of star wars. Just very slow and kind of boring. I also can't grasp the leap in technology over 70 years or so but w/e it's not that important. And yes, Aang and his friend's were much more enjoyable to watch to than the current group. I hope season 3 changes that.
Quote from: ZennyPLUS on June 27, 2014 06:11 PM
I also can't grasp the leap in technology over 70 years or so but w/e it's not that important.
Shouldn't be that hard. Think about it, first powered flight was 1903. We had computers and put a man on the moon by 1969. That isn't even 70 years, and we didn't even have people who could shoot lightning and fire out of their hands.
tonight's the night
[spoiler]Well, guess I was wrong about Kai being a younger version of the new bad guy, but wasn't too far off with the old crew being familiar with this season's villains. Also, Zuko and Eska's exchange in the elevator made me giggle.
I'm usually really bad at getting hopes up only to be disappointed, but the writing definitely seems a bit better this time around. Sure, it's all tropes and archetypes, but the execution so far has been good enough for me. Most of it at least has made me smile rather than cringe, so maybe this season will be better than #2[/spoiler]
Quote from: Gilthwixt on June 29, 2014 04:42 PM
[spoiler]Well, guess I was wrong about Kai being a younger version of the new bad guy, but wasn't too far off with the old crew being familiar with this season's villains. Also, Zuko and Eska's exchange in the elevator made me giggle.
I'm usually really bad at getting hopes up only to be disappointed, but the writing definitely seems a bit better this time around. Sure, it's all tropes and archetypes, but the execution so far has been good enough for me. Most of it at least has made me smile rather than cringe, so maybe this season will be better than #2[/spoiler]
[spoiler]i also agree that the writing so far seems much better than season 2. no relationship drama bullshit, Asami and Korra as friends and poking fun at their super cereal ex Mako.
i also like Korra's attitude this time around. she's not being a bitch to people who have been nothing but supportive of her unlike the last two seasons, although she can still be quick to act without asking first, like when she attacked those earthbender police officers who were chasing Kai, assuming they were bandits. seems like for the most part she has actually learned from her past and grown as a character.
the new team of villains seem pretty badass, i am especially interested in the woman who can replace her missing arms with water. i am curious why they are locked up and how they got their bending skills.
funny to see that Ba Sing Se is still such a fucked up country after all these years as well. some things never change. Earth Queen is obviously in on this downfall of the avatar scheme. she has quite the axe to grind.[/spoiler]
already some fanart coming in
[spoilerimg]http://38.media.tumblr.com/33eb53e697e19c89cb47428c82d3b85e/tumblr_n7wohzzNyP1r0tjypo1_1280.png[/spoilerimg]
I couldn't resist the temptation and went and saw the leaked episodes (4, 5, and 6). Yep, safe to say this season is definitely much stronger.
[spoiler]They gave Lin some back story. I really like Su Jin, her family and her history with Lin, it was pretty well done. Opal is a real cutie too, I hope she joins the crew as permanent airbender (Jinora and Kai being a bit too young next to Korra Mako and Bolin). They also implied that Toph could be secretly alive somewhere, what. I guess being the youngest of the original cast it shouldn't come as a surprise. Oh and also apparently Toph got around in her adult life, which is hilarious and exactly what I'd expect of her.[/spoiler]
damn those leaked too? get your shit together nick
[spoilerimg]http://i.imgur.com/60QJ3N0.jpg[/spoilerimg]
[spoiler]Not like she needs it anyway, if you've been following the comics the latest arc is about her finally running into her Dad again.
Still laughing over the fact that Toph has two daughters and they don't know who their fathers are.[/spoiler]
i do not follow the comic nor have i read any of them
i just want to see her
This season is so good wtf
>Air acolyte named Otaku
Nick pls stahp.
http://www.hypable.com/2014/07/24/the-legend-of-korra-season-3-final-episodes-online/ (http://www.hypable.com/2014/07/24/the-legend-of-korra-season-3-final-episodes-online/)
:|
i managed to get into TLOK panel this year at comic-con, which is likely to be the last. Mike started out by addressing this topic first. basically, Mike explained that Nick had been planning to do this for a while, but then shelved the idea. then, they changed their minds and decided to do it to Korra partway through the season. Mike sounded kind of annoyed at this, because they basically weren't told ahead of time and it's kind of stupid to do it in the middle of the season. According to Mike, while Korra doesn't do as well on TV, it gets much more viewership through online and streaming media, and that's Nick's justification for doing so.
another thing Mike said was that Nick has had trouble fitting TLOK in their demographic. but i think we all know that TLOK suffers in ratings because Nick is horrible at advertising it and puts it in death slots. but of course Mike wasn't going to say that. the cast was introduced by one of Nick's animation executives.
that being said, he said it won't affect the story they want to tell and Book 4 is continuing as planned. Basically all that's left at this point is for Studio Mir to finish the animation.
and with a future in online media, maybe any possible future Avatar shows won't be restricted by keeping things PG. but probably not, unless another producer besides Nick picks them up. and at this point, i hope that could be possible, because it really still seems like Nick doesn't care about the show.
also, i got to see episode 8 as well as some pencil tests from Mir, which included some clips from future episodes. the season just keeps getting better and episode 8 has a few great twists that speed the plot up. and it looks like there's gonna be a big throwdown between the new villains vs Lin, Mako and Bolin and probably everyone else based on the pencil tests i saw. and, according to Varrick's VA, we're going to hear about Varrick's childhood at some point. i don't know why and i don't know how important it is, but i'm sure it will be funny.
[spoiler]im not one for trying to make big predictions, but after watching this episode, im betting suyin is part of the red lotus as well. finding out that unalaq and aiwei were part of the red lotus too suggests that there might be more members who weren't captured, and that their network might be as big as the white lotus even. particularly because of zaheer's reveal on what the red lotus's goals are, and thinking about su's line about the earth queen to korra, something about how the queen thinks she can do whatever she wants and how monarchy is outdated, and then asking korra what she thinks about it, prompting the same philosophical thought that zaheer provoked in this episode. also other possible hints, like when it turned out that aiwei was a traitor, su didn't seem all that surprised, and then su sending korra and the others off that night secretly, su's anarchistic past, the fact that she traveled the world in exile for a long time, etc[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Having watched the episode I think your prediction is a distinct possibility, but I'd be thoroughly disappointed. I thought after Season 2, Bryan and Mike would be done with the whole "suspicious close relative turns out to be irredeemable villain" thing. It would probably destroy any sort of growth Lyn has made by reconciling with her sister and accepting that people can change, because it turns out they can't.
On the other hand, Suyin is something of a "World Leader" figure herself, and doubtless she probably enjoys ruling her own city. Anarchy doesn't really sound all that productive for someone who's interest is in conducting trade and researching new technologies, so considering her partnership with Varrick and the other things mentioned during the group's stay, I see her line about Monarchies being outdated being more of a pro-Capitalist plutocracy or democracy kind of thing. When you really think about it, her character would fit pretty well in an Ayn Rand novel.[/spoiler]
Quote from: sev on August 1, 2014 09:07 PM
[spoiler]im not one for trying to make big predictions, but after watching this episode, im betting suyin is part of the red lotus as well. finding out that unalaq and aiwei were part of the red lotus too suggests that there might be more members who weren't captured, and that their network might be as big as the white lotus even. particularly because of zaheer's reveal on what the red lotus's goals are, and thinking about su's line about the earth queen to korra, something about how the queen thinks she can do whatever she wants and how monarchy is outdated, and then asking korra what she thinks about it, prompting the same philosophical thought that zaheer provoked in this episode. also other possible hints, like when it turned out that aiwei was a traitor, su didn't seem all that surprised, and then su sending korra and the others off that night secretly, su's anarchistic past, the fact that she traveled the world in exile for a long time, etc[/spoiler]
Quote from: Gilthwixt on August 1, 2014 09:52 PM
[spoiler]Having watched the episode I think your prediction is a distinct possibility, but I'd be thoroughly disappointed. I thought after Season 2, Bryan and Mike would be done with the whole "suspicious close relative turns out to be irredeemable villain" thing. It would probably destroy any sort of growth Lyn has made by reconciling with her sister and accepting that people can change, because it turns out they can't.
On the other hand, Suyin is something of a "World Leader" figure herself, and doubtless she probably enjoys ruling her own city. Anarchy doesn't really sound all that productive for someone who's interest is in conducting trade and researching new technologies, so considering her partnership with Varrick and the other things mentioned during the group's stay, I see her line about Monarchies being outdated being more of a pro-Capitalist plutocracy or democracy kind of thing. When you really think about it, her character would fit pretty well in an Ayn Rand novel.[/spoiler]
i'm in the same camp as @Gilthwixt (http://www.thebackalleys.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2889) , here. while something like that could happen, imo it would totally ruin the strides season 3 made over the shoddy writing of season 2.
[spoiler]i think Suyin's reaction to learning that Aiwei betrayed her was fitting for her character. remember that she is the opposite of her sister in almost every way - if Lin found out someone betrayed her she'd blow the roof off, while Suyin seemed to not even know how to react besides somber disappointment and an embarrassing feeling of naivete.
and on the subject of the earth queen, so far it doesn't seem like she has any fans besides Bolin's grandma with her framed picture of Dear Leader. and Suyin seems to enjoy being a leader and a champion of entrepreneurs and technology, which, like @Gilthwixt (http://www.thebackalleys.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2889) said, is the exact opposite of Zaheer's way of thinking. Suyin would have to be willing to give up everything she's worked for if she was a true member of the Red Lotus - that, or she would have to be a complete hypocrite.
and lastly, which @Gilthwixt (http://www.thebackalleys.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2889) also touched on, is that if all this happened it would totally throw Lin under the bus. she finally has something good happen to her and then she finds out her sister is trying to kidnap and brainwash the avatar? i mean.. it could happen, but it would just be cruel to show that much contempt towards such a beloved character. it doesn't seem like it's in the spirit of the writing team.
and usually, when characters turn out to be bad, we've had some subtle visual hints thrown at us so the audience knows. but Suyin has been cast in a positive light so far. as far as her sending off Team Avatar to capture Aiwei, i again will recall the fact that Lin and Suyin are complete opposites. Lin wants to control Korra and police her every move, so naturally, when Korra wants to leave the city as soon as possible, Lin does everything in her power to keep her there. The second Suyin finds out, she gives Korra what she needs to send her off. This is also right after she learns to let go of her daughter Opal, so i dont' find this very suspicious.[/spoiler]
This season finale was godlike. I can't even right now. This season in general was so well done it might actually top anything AtLAB did. That might just be hype talking idk, I'll have to think about it a bit more. It's definitely one of the most satisfying things I've watched recently.
i agree actually. while season 3 of ATLA was great, it had a lot of filler in it. they didn't waste any time in book 3. the animation in korra is also overall better than it ever was in ATLA, Mir has matured a lot since then and is capable of much better production. can't wait to see where they take all this in the final chapter, because they're obviously not done with the red lotus yet.
The only way I can reconcile that is the fact that Korra seasons are about half the length of Airbender seasons, so they don't have time to waste on filler (no need for a recap episode, for example). But beyond that, I'm surprised at how dark they were willing to make this season. I wonder if that had any weight in deciding to take the show off network. I guess if that's what it takes to get a bit more realism in the show then so be it.
[spoiler]We actually saw a hero kill a villain outright for once (twice if you count Suyin's contained explosion). It'll be interesting to see how Mako handles that in the future, something tells me it's not just going to be "in the line of duty" for him. And Korra too, being crippled and all. What if they actually touch on depression and ptsd next season? That'd be crazy, as far as Nick and CN have ever gone. Pigeon Man in Hey Arnold! sort of briefly touched on it but Nick axed the suicide ending, so I wonder what they'll get away with.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Gilthwixt on August 25, 2014 03:46 AM
The only way I can reconcile that is the fact that Korra seasons are about half the length of Airbender seasons, so they don't have time to waste on filler (no need for a recap episode, for example). But beyond that, I'm surprised at how dark they were willing to make this season. I wonder if that had any weight in deciding to take the show off network. I guess if that's what it takes to get a bit more realism in the show then so be it.
[spoiler]We actually saw a hero kill a villain outright for once (twice if you count Suyin's contained explosion). It'll be interesting to see how Mako handles that in the future, something tells me it's not just going to be "in the line of duty" for him. And Korra too, being crippled and all. What if they actually touch on depression and ptsd next season? That'd be crazy, as far as Nick and CN have ever gone. Pigeon Man in Hey Arnold! sort of briefly touched on it but Nick axed the suicide ending, so I wonder what they'll get away with.[/spoiler]
it's more realistic to me this way. in this world of bending, think of all the fucked up ways you could kill people, and now it's finally happening. i like when they show the dark side of the avatar universe, it's easier to relate to, and it dispels the myth that ATLA is "for children".
> June 2013
This motherfucker.
http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/52847674525/we-have-the-best-storyboards-no-one-comes-close?vcs=social_20140826_30476886 (http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/52847674525/we-have-the-best-storyboards-no-one-comes-close?vcs=social_20140826_30476886)
i see the resemblance now
http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/digital-short-legend-of-korra-uploader-special-announcement.html?xid=korranation (http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/digital-short-legend-of-korra-uploader-special-announcement.html?xid=korranation)
What.
it's quite a jump back from their initial release date of january 2015. but i'm not complaining