thebackalleys

Main => Entertainment => Topic started by: Bamyasi on October 11, 2013 04:21 AM

Title: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: Bamyasi on October 11, 2013 04:21 AM
Sill waiting on Pupa, but now that everything else anyone cares about has premiered...
(https://thebackalleys.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thebackalleys.com%2Fdump%2Ffiles%2F1530%2F644Yb_Fall2013chart.jpg&hash=e1d13d708953f262b6b073c6a38f9d5b5afcc9bd)
Who else is watching Tits Wrestling?
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: Stu4U on October 11, 2013 04:46 AM
there's a tamagotchi anime...
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: rtil on October 11, 2013 05:00 AM
watching tier:
kyoukai no kanata
kyousogiga
nagi no asukara
kill la kill
diamond no ace (daiya no A)
non non biyori
pupa
gingitsune

morbidly curious tier:
unbreakable machine-doll (kikou shoujo wa kizutsukanai)
tits wrestling

would never watch tier:
outbreak company
log horizon
valvrave s2
diabolik lovers

dropped tier:
walkure romanze
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: Bamyasi on October 13, 2013 09:03 AM
Well I guess no one else is watching anime this season  besides rtil and me. Probably busy with school or something equally silly. I haven't watched any of the sports stuff yet but if you say Daiya no A is good I'll check it out.

Stuff rtil is seriously missing out on tier:
Miss Monochrome
Samurai Flamenco
Galilei Donna
NouKome
Coppelion (just for the sakuga)
Yozakura Quartet (mostly the sakuga)

Why specifically is rtil so against this tier:
Outbreak Company
Log Horizon
Valvrave

Other stuff I haven't dropped/backlogged yet tier:
Teekyuu (because it's Teekyuu)
Miss Monochrome (lovely)
Gingitsune (lovely, possible favorite)
Non Non Biyori (lovely, possible favorite)
Fishknee (lovely but what the actual fuck)
Kyousogiga (finally some exposition, possible AOTS)
Kill la Kill (okay I guess)
Kyoukai no Kanata (MC is worst girl)
Galilei Donna (OP of the season)
Samurai Flamenco (ED of the season)
Coppelion (bad writing/nice visuals just like K)
Yozakura Quartet (pretty colors and sakuga)
NouKome (because stupid magical romcoms are like my crack)
Meganebu! (because it's so gay I can't not)
Golden Time (because J.C. Staff)
Strike the Blood (because fuck you)
Little Basterds (because VN)
White Album 2 (because VN)

Backlogged tier:
Magi (pretty decent for generic shounen I guess)
Blazblue (hope it doesn't ruin the games for me)

Hurts my eyes tier:
Arpeggio
Coppelion
Machine Doll
Tokyo Ravens
Galilei Donna

Pure unadulterated sin tier:
Diabolik Lovers
Walkure Romanze
Freezing Vibration
Yuushibu
SekaTsuyo
Meganebu

Nobody is even subbing tier:
Koroshiya-san

Infinite Stratos tier:
Infinite Stratos

I promised myself I'd cut back after last season because my backlog/life needs some TLC so I'll probably end up dropping like half this garbage.
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: rtil on October 13, 2013 09:35 AM
i am considering galilei donna. samurai flamenco and miss monochrome didn't really pique my interest. outbreak company and log horizon give me this SAO/dothack vibe, i'm just sick of stuff like that. valvrave s1 was beyond retarded, anyone who says it's good because it's a mecha "deconstruction" or a parody of its genre can't tell the difference between brilliance and stupidity. also it had rape in it so yeah that happened.
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: Bamyasi on October 13, 2013 10:18 AM
Miss Monochrome is only 4 minutes on the dot so it's not really much of an investment. Just set up and punchline really. Yeah, getting trapped in an MMO is kind of a tired concept after .hack/SAO/Accel World. It's weird that it's only catching on now when the former has been around for a decade, and still did it best I think.

I'm not going to defend Valvrave because I didn't even finish the first season (or get to the oh so controversial rape scene for that matter), but from what I did see it was just so ridiculously and purposefully stupid it was impossible for me to hate. Is rape a red line for you? There have been a few anime that I think handled it with sensitivity. Now and Then, Here and There for instance, the writer of which happens to be working on Samuflenco (which I probably mainly like for the ED at this point as the first episode was only marginally impressive). I dunno. I think I'm kind of close to the point where I've seen enough anime to hate most of it but Valvrave just seemed innocuously dumb.
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: rtil on October 13, 2013 10:58 AM
i guess i'll watch miss monochrome when i'm done with my current 4-minute series, aiura. with a 1-minute op and 30-sec ed that's a whole 2:30 of content. but who knows how long that will take me, there's only so much time in a day.

and hate is a pretty strong word.. i'm not sure if i hated valvrave, but i did think it was a complete waste of time. valvrave makes every attempt at being a grandoise epic that the whole thing feels forced. there's so much drama and excess in valrvave that its attempt at a vampiric rape scene had me rolling my eyes. i can deal with rape in a story if it feels real and has a point in being there. in valvrave it was contrived, there was absolutely no reason for it to happen. and the consequences of it are dumbfounding to me. the characters, plot and pacing of valvrave were all bad.. the only good thing i have to say about it was that the animation was good. i'd never recommend valvrave, it was below average but not the worst thing ever. i suppose a simpleton who fancies themselves and intellectual might find valvrave deep or intriguing, but the whole thing is farcical really.
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: BluPhoenix on October 13, 2013 03:27 PM
already watching-
kill la kill
infinite stratos 2

gotta watch-
kyoukai no kanata
pupa
gundam build fighters

interested in-
yozakura quartet (original author illustrated the durarara light novels)
blazblue alter memory (>blazblue)
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: Gilthwixt on October 14, 2013 01:02 AM
I heard a lot about Coppelion being good but I watched the first episode and fell asleep.

I know the light novels have been out for years but Log Horizon really does seem like it's just trying to cash in on SAO's success. The first episode felt really generic and "try-hard"-y. Other than the idea of the MC being a strategist there wasn't anything that stuck out at me as interesting.

Might need to pick up Yozakura Quartet, never saw the first season but I remember it piquing my interest before.
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: rtil on October 14, 2013 01:20 AM
watched the first 2 eps of Nagi No Asukara today. it's about these middle schoolers who live in an underwater city, but their school is being closed down so they have to go to one on land. basically in this world, everyone used to live in the sea, but many people left the sea to live on the land. the mc's crush develops a crush on a land boy, and there's another girl who secretly wishes mc would dump main girl to be with her, and there's another guy who is just kind of in their group of friends. it's very pretty, but i'm not sure on where the story is going besides dramaland. could be great, could be melodromatic crap. the lead girl is extremely helpless and the two male leads are sorta fighting over her by 'protecting' her all the time, which is super generic but i'll forgive it for now. she will hopefully grow out of it.
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: iinnkk on October 14, 2013 01:24 AM
currently watching:
yozakura quartet: hana no uta
kyousougiga (2013)
kyoukai no kanta
kill la kill
copellion (not sure how i feel about this one)

interested in:
nagi no asukara

i was interested in walkure romanze from reading what it was about but i watched the pv and all it was is fanservice.
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: rtil on October 14, 2013 02:19 AM
Quote from: iinnkk on October 14, 2013 01:24 AM
i was interested in walkure romanze from reading what it was about but i watched the pv and all it was is fanservice.

it is, dont' bother
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: rtil on October 14, 2013 10:36 AM
i really like the ED for nagi no asukara
凪のあすから ED やなぎなぎ「アクアテラリウム」 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4urgLbkNUO0#)
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: Kött on April 2, 2014 11:24 PM
Quote from: rtil on October 14, 2013 10:36 AM
i really like the ED for nagi no asukara
凪のあすから ED やなぎなぎ「アクアテラリウム」 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4urgLbkNUO0#)

Have you ever finished this one?
Judging by the score it seemed mediocre at first, but now that it has finished airing the ranking has skyrocketed for some reason... I'm honestly considering to watch this show.
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: rtil on April 3, 2014 03:01 AM
i haven't watched the finale quite yet but yes i did keep up with it. i'll probably watch the final episode tomorrow.

there's a lot of crying in it and there's this huge love polygon that causes all this drama, and honestly i started to get tired of it and almost dropped it. i really don't feel a whole lot of empathy for the characters like i'm supposed to. but i was so far into the show i wanted to see how it would end.

the finale may very well change my opinion of it but at the moment i'd give it a weak 7/10.
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: rtil on April 4, 2014 05:27 AM
ok so i watched the finale today and imo it wasn't anything particularly special. stuff happens, people change and learn things, but the entire premise and the relationship aspect of the show felt extremely juvenile when it came to the writing. there's a couple interesting twists and turns, and a big timeskip between cour 1 and 2 that keep things interesting. overall though i'm not sure if i'd recommend it unless you become easily emotionally invested in characters. if you don't mind a lot of crying, melodrama and intertwined love triangles, you'll probably like it. it's also a pretty show with good animation. i'd give it a 6/10 - better than average, but not particularly noteworthy.
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: Bamyasi on April 4, 2014 10:50 PM
I'm still on like episode 21 of Nagi no Asakura I think.

Kött are you talking about the MAL score or the ANN score? (I assume not the AniDB score because it's like 6.23 (rtil confirmed for AniDB user).

Anyway the MAL rec system sucks but the top suggestion for NnA is Shinsekai Yori and I'd honestly recommend that more. Can't believe it finished airing over a year ago.
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: rtil on April 5, 2014 12:19 AM
i actually don't have an AniDB account nor have i ever been there. i do have a MAL and Hummingbird, where it is scored 8.48/10 and 3.90/5, respectively.

looks like ANN has it around an 8/10 average.

i tend to find that anime viewers give inflated or overly generous ratings. i've seen some people call a show bad and give it a 7/10. i don't think they understand how the score system is supposed to work.
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: Kött on April 5, 2014 01:21 AM
Quote from: Bamyasi on April  4, 2014 10:50 PM
I'm still on like episode 21 of Nagi no Asakura I think.

Kött are you talking about the MAL score or the ANN score? (I assume not the AniDB score because it's like 6.23 (rtil confirmed for AniDB user).

MAL
Never even heard of either of the other two for some reason...

Quote from: Bamyasi on April  4, 2014 10:50 PM
Anyway the MAL rec system sucks but the top suggestion for NnA is Shinsekai Yori and I'd honestly recommend that more. Can't believe it finished airing over a year ago.

I second that! Shinsekai Yori is an amazing show which I had the pleasure to watch recently with a couple of friends of mine. To be fair, the animation isn't really the best out there and some of the CGI scenes were almost cringe worthy, but this anime simply tells you an amazing story with a couple of well crafted twists and surprises. Also its messages and ideas are extremely thought provoking.

As for the recommendation system itself, I actually think that it's based on a pretty good idea. The only problem about it is the user base of MAL who mainly goes by popularity and their own perception of quality rather than recommending an actually similar story.
I mean... Welcome to the NHK and Genshiken... no, just no. I usually use the recommendations with a healthy suspicion and read some reviews/check the score for the respective show before I take them seriously.

Quote from: rtil on April  5, 2014 12:19 AM
i tend to find that anime viewers give inflated or overly generous ratings. i've seen some people call a show bad and give it a 7/10. i don't think they understand how the score system is supposed to work.

Those people are called Tsundere.
But yes, I notice that a lot as well. There are simply too many of those people who don't use the full scale and I think that is a community-based phenomenon. Many people in the anime fandom just seem very easy to please and shit out 9s and 10s if they have access to websites like these. Others often get influenced/blinded by the scores/the opinion of the masses and try to justify the rating by looking exclusively at the positive of negative aspects when something doesn't match at all (I sometimes notice that about myself when I am supposed to rate something, even in regards to other things beside shows or movies).

I guess another reason for the generally high ratings is the fact that people don't like to compare different shows that they enjoyed for different aspects. Try to compare your favorite comedy show, your favorite moeblob show, your favorite drama, your favorite show in terms of style and animation and your favorite show that you simply like because it has this certain appeal which you cannot define with each other. It is really hard, so people tend to put them on equally high levels. And since many similar shows are "not that much worse" than those favorites, they are rated just a bit lower than those.

Finally, the probably most important reason is that people hate to admit that they have wasted their time. You don't finish a 24 episode show that you don't like, do you? I mean, why would you as an individual with a refined taste spend time on something that doesn't even entertain you the slightest bit for over 10 hours? Na, the show that you have just finished honestly wasn't that bad, was it? There was this scene in episode seven that almost made you laugh. Let's give it a pass! 6/10

I have to admit that the scores that I use on my account and their respective labels are probably not the ones I would use in real life when talking about a show and I think that goes for most people.
Title: Re: Fall 2013 anime general
Post by: rtil on April 5, 2014 01:47 AM
that and people generally know what they're getting in to when they start watching a show, so they know what to expect and they will probably like what they see. and if they really don't like it, they'll drop it way before it's over and probably never score it. so the reviews are generally composed of people who loved it.

nagi no asukara barely held my interest at points but since i knew it was going to end @ 24 i decided to finish it. i'm glad i know how it ends, i just wasn't thrilled by it all that much. it certainly was a lot less painful to watch than coppelion.. easily the worst anime i've seen in a long time.