i think this is thread 7, it'll mostly be sketches like last time but i'm gonna be working on some paintings soon
EDIT: i updated this first sketch page recently, so i'll put that here instead of the old one
(https://thebackalleys.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc02.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2Ff%2F2012%2F055%2Fe%2F0%2F23_24thfeb2012_by_lenkobiscuit-d4qteym.png&hash=05c18d50e243e1f51f904faf62a198056a2c9f7b)
i might do the kung fu girl beatin some monsters up, or fighting the guy
god damn you and rtil are unstoppable with these daily sketches
this would have been good if you didn't draw ANIME FACES you fuckin queer
the octopus is pretty cool
the genie looks a little like the guy from asura's wrath
oh yeah and that elephant or whatever it is
that's pretty cool
cool drawings
ugh why are you so good ugh
eman is jealous of the skills of the lenko biscuit
i especially dig the robots/mech stuff
thanks guys
Quote from: Sinitron on February 9, 2012 10:25 PM
this would have been good if you didn't draw ANIME FACES you fuckin queer
i agree, its the easy option but sometimes i cant help but feel it suits whatever im drawing at the time
i'd like to start constructing more complex faces though
Nice shit B)
not half bad stuff
and kudos for responding well to criticism!
more stuff, i messed up on a few of them (the girl holding the tommy gun is completely off, and i rushed the pangolin so the construction is fucked beyond repair) but practice is practice
i liked messing around with bolder lines for the skulls, might do more with that
(https://thebackalleys.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc07.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2012%2F043%2Fe%2F5%2F10_12feb2012_by_lenkobiscuit-d4pieyg.png&hash=41f76da8432f483624bc57f2dafa5038df7d81a1)
Wow, never seen your art before lenko, nice work! I really like that armadillo. :)
again, cool drawings
draw whatever faces you want to draw, anyone who criticizes you for drawing "anime" is close-minded/jaded
man i love your artwork, top notch sketches!
Awesome stuff as usual~
The four-armed monkey is really cool
music video
i really like your style
theres something about the way you draw hair that really sells me on the idea of how "fluffy" it is. cool stuff. youre getting better i think
Quote from: rtil on February 12, 2012 11:46 PM
draw whatever faces you want to draw, anyone who criticizes you for drawing "anime" is close-minded/jaded
^it's funny because lenko agreed he was copping out on the faces LOL
the crocodile with the mallet is cool i could get behind that
Quote from: rtil on February 12, 2012 11:46 PM
draw whatever faces you want to draw, anyone who criticizes you for drawing "anime" is close-minded/jaded
Close minded, adj: Intolerant of the beliefs and opinions of others; stubbornly unreceptive to new ideas.Anime is a new idea? (https://thebackalleys.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3gTiF.gif&hash=9cfd17bd246f5e8fb2bb155a8f4e0fbe06cb669c)
oh ok
Quote from: Sinitron on February 13, 2012 09:26 PM
Quote from: rtil on February 12, 2012 11:46 PM
draw whatever faces you want to draw, anyone who criticizes you for drawing "anime" is close-minded/jaded
^it's funny because lenko agreed he was copping out on the faces LOL
he said he's open to trying new things - something that you're incapable of doing but criticize others of not doing. that's pretty funny.
Quote from: Gladius on February 13, 2012 09:36 PM
Quote from: rtil on February 12, 2012 11:46 PM
draw whatever faces you want to draw, anyone who criticizes you for drawing "anime" is close-minded/jaded
Close minded, adj: Intolerant of the beliefs and opinions of others; stubbornly unreceptive to new ideas.
Anime is a new idea? (https://thebackalleys.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3gTiF.gif&hash=9cfd17bd246f5e8fb2bb155a8f4e0fbe06cb669c)
lol, you're such a tool. fine, you want me to get technical while you play stupid? what i mean is that it's a narrow point of view to say "x style is better than y". you'll often hear some people say anime is better than "cartoon" style and vice versa, when the bottom line is that it's all subjective. there are amazing artists of all styles and practices - no one is copping out by drawing the way that they do. a face on a character doesn't have to be extremely detailed or a certain style or else it's "copping out" - simplicity in style is there for a reason. art is not intended to be realistic, it's intended to make comments on reality through visual interpretation. whether it's done with 5 strokes of the pen or 5 million it doesn't matter, each result can be equally beautiful. but i wouldn't expect someone like you to understand that because you can only feed off the opinions of others instead of come to your own.
and apologizes to lenko for derailing this thread but i couldn't resist the temptation to not reply to such stupidity
Quote from: Gladius on February 13, 2012 09:36 PM
Quote from: rtil on February 12, 2012 11:46 PM
draw whatever faces you want to draw, anyone who criticizes you for drawing "anime" is close-minded/jaded
Close minded, adj: Intolerant of the beliefs and opinions of others; stubbornly unreceptive to new ideas.
Anime is a new idea? (https://thebackalleys.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3gTiF.gif&hash=9cfd17bd246f5e8fb2bb155a8f4e0fbe06cb669c)
you're picking apart one thing he said and making an argument based on one part of one definition of the one word from it. don't do that!
Quote from: Sinitron on February 13, 2012 09:26 PM
Quote from: rtil on February 12, 2012 11:46 PM
draw whatever faces you want to draw, anyone who criticizes you for drawing "anime" is close-minded/jaded
^it's funny because lenko agreed he was copping out on the faces LOL
but he wasn't, he said he draws what he feels is appropriate for the piece. if it's relatively simple, you keep everything like that- you wouldn't draw an incredibly detailed arm and then half-ass the rest of the body, would you? WOULD YOU, YOU BICEP FETISHIST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem)
i think my favorite is the boar thunder god on the set
Quote from: creamcorn on February 14, 2012 12:06 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem)
look, i get it chicken, you dont like me and you're trying to get on my nerves/troll me as much as possible. but you dont understand what ad hominem is and i'm not taking the bait. so you can give it a rest
Quote from: rtil on February 14, 2012 12:13 AM
Quote from: creamcorn on February 14, 2012 12:06 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem)
look, i get it chicken, you dont like me and you're trying to get on my nerves/troll me as much as possible. but you dont understand what ad hominem is and i'm not taking the bait. so you can give it a rest
what! thats not true at all i think youre a good guy. just because i dont suck your dick like some of the people here doesnt mean i dislike/hate you. although i gotta admit i did get the feeling that you thought i hated your guts. i guess youre not used to people not sucking your d or something. sad!
also that ad hominem post was directed at BP's post
bp wasn't doing it either. and nobody here sucks my dick, but you seem to think that anyone who is my friend does. maybe you dont have any friends, or are jealous of me or something. that's ok, too
wow you played the you-dont-have-any-friends and the youre-just-jealous cards both in the same post! gj
PS: sorry lenko!
no one can ever be on rtil's side just because he's rtil, i find. it's really dumb but sometimes i avoid arguing rtil's point even if i feel similarly about it just because i think that someone will just say i'm whiteknighting him as a cop-out.
anyway i think lenko does a great job of combining simplicity and complexity in his style and it's something i admire. his use of line for a lot of things is impressive and i really don't think the faces distract from it unless you're just being picky and have personal distaste against it. i don't understand why people are so offended by simplicity and it's a trait i think can really make something look great--despite how others may feel--and i value simplicity a lot myself.
Quote from: creamcorn on February 14, 2012 12:58 AM
wow you played the you-dont-have-any-friends and the youre-just-jealous cards both in the same post! gj
PS: sorry lenko!
look, i'm just saying that the people that tend to have a problem with me fall in either or both categories, so i'm just throwing them out there. then there's also the people who think it makes them look cool to disagree/argue with everything i say because i'm the admin, i mean am i pushing any buttons here? don't leave me out in the cold here , let's not pretend you don't have a problem with me and the likelihood that it has something to do with yourself.
how chicken views himself
(https://thebackalleys.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.colostate.edu%2Forgs%2FMSA%2Fgifs%2Fm_x_1.gif&hash=b27631b7dc6999f25542ecefdf66c88c10a46881)
how tba views chicken
(https://thebackalleys.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.socialvixen.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F01%2Fperezhiltonomfbbirthdaypartyvcpvzvo8nt2l.jpg&hash=b5f17efb41f825b0dbbe425bac779aff37da8bf5)
why does chicken view himself as malcolm x
i dont know either
Quote from: rtil on February 14, 2012 01:04 AM
Quote from: creamcorn on February 14, 2012 12:58 AM
wow you played the you-dont-have-any-friends and the youre-just-jealous cards both in the same post! gj
PS: sorry lenko!
look, i'm just saying that the people that tend to have a problem with me fall in either or both categories, so i'm just throwing them out there. then there's also the people who think it makes them look cool to disagree/argue with everything i say because i'm the admin, i mean am i pushing any buttons here? don't leave me out in the cold here , let's not pretend you don't have a problem with me and the likelihood that it has something to do with yourself.
on the point of leaving you out in the cold, ill explain where im at: im not jealous of you, i do have friends (i do!), and i have never disagreed with everything or anything you said because 'its cool'.
think about it, maybe *when* i argue with you its because i disagree with you on that particular thing, and not because i hate your guts/think its cool/wanna troll you. and sometimes i could be wrong! i may have misused the ad hominem argument above, but it did feel as if bp was saying that sinitron shouldnt say lenko was overusing anime faces ('copping out') because he himself draws everyone with big biceps or whatever. isnt that an ad hominem
again, i think youre a good guy and dont make this thing (whatever this is) personal, because it never was. i guess you should make a fourth category, rtil!
this thread
wow
rtil and i just had to WORK THINGS OUT man. sadly, at the expense of lenkos art thread (keep up the great work btw, lenko! big fan.)
man fuck lenko, let's just keep arguing
it's all good now just ignore this last page
take it away, lenko!
you know chicken, i used to think you were a gigantic ironic giggly cock-knocking punk. ever since i started regularly posting here again, when you posted in a thread, i thought i'd be walking into some stupid snarkysnark bullshit, but i'd always be surprised whenever it wasn't that. you're pretty alright nowadays
you should post your art more though, i thought i remembered you being pretty good
my wonderful page 2 wtf!!!
i'm not even going to BOTHER with a well-constructed and thoughtful reply because fuck you you're gay
lenko draw some more crocs with mallets and shit it suits your style more (or your style suits it??)
Quote from: vegeta on February 14, 2012 03:29 AM
my wonderful page 2 wtf!!!
(https://thebackalleys.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Foriginal%2F000%2F004%2F592%2Fmy-brain-is-full-of-fuck.jpg&hash=0d5a24ef4942b379b7f14c55475a6b6dd7ed0b8d)
music video
Quote from: W.A.S.I.M. on February 14, 2012 08:46 AM
Quote from: creamcorn on February 14, 2012 01:42 AM
rtil and i just had to WORK THINGS OUT man. sadly, at the expense of lenkos art thread (keep up the great work btw, lenko! big fan.)
lmao my man, why were you arguin with people on the internet at 1 to 4 am.
What better things are there to do on the net at this time, besides arguing?
I'm just gonna say again what I said to you yesterday lenksy;
I am so sad that raijin's scarf isn't made of clouds :(
i think these are all pretty great. some things are off here and there anatomically as you've sorta said, but its nothing truly significant and these are just sketches. i think its really impressive how distict and dymanic your cartooning is. most of the time, no matter what you draw, i can almost instantly identify it as yours, which in my mind, is the mark of a well-developed style. the creatures and machines in particular are gorgeously detailed and interesting. i also like the varying poses and clothing of the characters youre showing here too. keep it up! i hope the silliness in this thread doesnt deter you from posting more
ALSO
Quote from: sev on February 14, 2012 03:17 AM
gigantic ironic giggly cock-knocking punk
this is a pretty funny description gg
Quote from: nonzop on February 14, 2012 03:35 PMi think its really impressive how distict and dymanic your cartooning is. most of the time, no matter what you draw, i can almost instantly identify it as yours, which in my mind, is the mark of a well-developed style.
i'm gonna quote this because someone else said the exact same thing and they will be like WTF when they see this pwned
(also it's true)
Quote from: nonzop on February 14, 2012 03:35 PM
i think these are all pretty great. some things are off here and there anatomically as you've sorta said, but its nothing truly significant and these are just sketches. i think its really impressive how distict and dymanic your cartooning is. most of the time, no matter what you draw, i can almost instantly identify it as yours, which in my mind, is the mark of a well-developed style. the creatures and machines in particular are gorgeously detailed and interesting. i also like the varying poses and clothing of the characters youre showing here too. keep it up! i hope the silliness in this thread doesnt deter you from posting more
thanks!! and yeah i neglected anatomy for many years. when i was a kid the closest thing i got to studying anatomy was the builds of the kremlings in donkey kong country 2. ive only just started working my way through the loomis books but its definitely something to focus on (i also know jack shit about perspective, if anyone has perspective advice please share it with me because sometimes it hurts my brain to even think about it)
also armon i should hopefully/finally be able to get your music vid done!! i have a loose schedule right now as opposed to the last 7 months or so
oh wow 2 whole pages without any drawings ahahahahahahh
ya, you best put up or put out........... boy
Quote from: vegeta on February 14, 2012 04:01 PM
Quote from: nonzop on February 14, 2012 03:35 PM
i think these are all pretty great. some things are off here and there anatomically as you've sorta said, but its nothing truly significant and these are just sketches. i think its really impressive how distict and dymanic your cartooning is. most of the time, no matter what you draw, i can almost instantly identify it as yours, which in my mind, is the mark of a well-developed style. the creatures and machines in particular are gorgeously detailed and interesting. i also like the varying poses and clothing of the characters youre showing here too. keep it up! i hope the silliness in this thread doesnt deter you from posting more
thanks!! and yeah i neglected anatomy for many years. when i was a kid the closest thing i got to studying anatomy was the builds of the kremlings in donkey kong country 2. ive only just started working my way through the loomis books but its definitely something to focus on (i also know jack shit about perspective, if anyone has perspective advice please share it with me because sometimes it hurts my brain to even think about it)
also armon i should hopefully/finally be able to get your music vid done!! i have a loose schedule right now as opposed to the last 7 months or so
oh good. i wasnt even sure if you still wanted to do the vid since its been so long since we spoke about it. is msn still a good way to contact you?
Quote from: Sinitron on February 14, 2012 03:48 PM
Quote from: nonzop on February 14, 2012 03:35 PMi think its really impressive how distict and dymanic your cartooning is. most of the time, no matter what you draw, i can almost instantly identify it as yours, which in my mind, is the mark of a well-developed style.
i'm gonna quote this because someone else said the exact same thing and they will be like WTF when they see this pwned
(also it's true)
WTF
Quote from: Hey guys, look! I'm finally a parkour master! on February 14, 2012 05:18 PM
oh good. i wasnt even sure if you still wanted to do the vid since its been so long since we spoke about it. is msn still a good way to contact you?
yup!!
perspective is pretty simple stuff when you get the hang of it. idk just how much you dont know about it, but id reccomend lookin up some 2 point perspective tutorials or somethin on youtube.
2 Point Perspective Drawing-Start Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpLJT_SHqpU#ws)
(like this except better)
its all very dull and technical mostly but if you dedicate a little bit of time to understanding it in a stripped down form (aka boxes on a blank plane) you can start to see how it applies in more complex works
How To Draw Two-Point Perspective, with Karl Gude (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=felys-u4nfk#)
kinda like this
i had to take a class earlier this year where it was all about making these fucking technical perfectly in perspective architectural drawings and dividing boxes into 64 perfectly equal parts and it was mundane and redundant, but i guess i walked away understanding the whole idea better. i dont know if i could muster up enough passion to attempt to do things like that without it being part of an assignment, but id certainly practice a bit i guess idk
Quote from: sev on February 14, 2012 05:56 PM
Quote from: Sinitron on February 14, 2012 03:48 PM
Quote from: nonzop on February 14, 2012 03:35 PMi think its really impressive how distict and dymanic your cartooning is. most of the time, no matter what you draw, i can almost instantly identify it as yours, which in my mind, is the mark of a well-developed style.
i'm gonna quote this because someone else said the exact same thing and they will be like WTF when they see this pwned
(also it's true)
WTF
haha oh
this is really basic, i think he knows this stuff. after all, didnt you go to artschool, lenko?
lenko, your stuff is always neat. I'm always so impressed about how small your detail can get
i also like the mayan/ancient-esque art you have been producing!
Quote from: creamcorn on February 14, 2012 11:40 PM
this is really basic, i think he knows this stuff. after all, didnt you go to artschool, lenko?
idk yo i mean he said he didnt know shit about perspective, idk what else to say
Quote from: vegeta on February 14, 2012 04:01 PM
i also know jack shit about perspective, if anyone has perspective advice please share it with me because sometimes it hurts my brain to even think about it
http://www.mediafire.com/?hynzy3itidk (http://www.mediafire.com/?hynzy3itidk)
this i
Quote from: sev on February 15, 2012 12:56 AM
Quote from: vegeta on February 14, 2012 04:01 PM
i also know jack shit about perspective, if anyone has perspective advice please share it with me because sometimes it hurts my brain to even think about it
http://www.mediafire.com/?hynzy3itidk (http://www.mediafire.com/?hynzy3itidk)
this seems pretty fantastic yes
yeah i really like your machines/animals/creatures but some of the faces and poses could use a lil work
Quote from: sev on February 15, 2012 12:56 AM
Quote from: vegeta on February 14, 2012 04:01 PM
i also know jack shit about perspective, if anyone has perspective advice please share it with me because sometimes it hurts my brain to even think about it
http://www.mediafire.com/?hynzy3itidk (http://www.mediafire.com/?hynzy3itidk)
pizza point 4 u
@ zop: yeah i know the basics like two-point, but anything after that makes my head hurt (like, the really crazy shit where cities are seen from an angle at above) i guess the book jake posted will help though. my class was taught very rudimentary perspective at university and that was about it (unfortunately the course became more after effects based after a while and traditional drawing sort of took a backseat, no lifedrawing classes in the third year for example which was fucking stupid). i always wondered if there was a 'quicker' way to do it, but i guess it'll probably come more naturally after grinding away doing all the technical crap for a bit
@wasim: our album should be mastered by the end of march, so i'll probably put it on soundcloud or something
yeh once you do it for a bunch you sort of get a feel for it i guess without needing to constantly rely on rulers and shit
i couldn't even imagine drawing proper perspective with a tablet
drawing with a tablet in general feels really queer compared to pen and paper but with all the digital tools you could have at your disposal you sort of make up for it fairly effectively
http://www.thebackalleys.com/dump/files/979/648Bm9_DenOf-02.mp3 (http://www.thebackalleys.com/dump/files/979/648Bm9_DenOf-02.mp3)
rough version of the first song from my bands album (i do drums) enjoy
Quote from: Sinitron on February 16, 2012 08:29 PM
drawing with a tablet in general feels really queer compared to pen and paper but with all the digital tools you could have at your disposal you sort of make up for it fairly effectively
Lmao... ok that was funny.
i love the song, i can see what you mean about people not caring for the vocals, although personally i thought it complimented the instruments really well
is that a sax by the way? way cool
thanks, and yeah although the core band is a pretty typical 4 piece (singer/rhythm guitar, lead guitar, drums, bass), we've got a few friends doing guest spots like that sax. the saxophonist was close to actually joining but then she got pregnant OOPS
lmao wasim you phrased that so well
I've always enjoyed your art, Lenko, especially your bad-ass creature designs. Keep it up.
hey lenko i apologize but somebody else is doing the music vid now. you havent been online at all!!@!
Lenks hasn't had an internet connection for a couple of weeks now due to his crappy location in a village in the middle of nowhere. He also apologises and says that he will still release the video as an alternative one for free that you don't have to pay for cause he's halfway done (and still thought he had till the end of April to finish it).
wow talk about professionalism
come back online soon lenko so i can pet you on the head like vegeta is doing to gohan in fef's sig image
lenko if you can read this dont worry about it. i asked the other animator to do a different song. you're still good for man party. i apologize for the confusion.
come back, lenko wah
hopefully, he's gonna be back in the next few days or something
fun fact: i spent $60 of skype credit talking to lenko a few times while he's been gone. i would call him and ask him when he's coming back, but i officially have no more money from this magical excursion
I'll be phoning him this weekend - I'll try and get a date of return from him then :D