Dailytoons Season 5

[Lats, Squats, & Oates]

i will turn you into a human toilet. youre ass is mine, for me to poop on.

PAGE 4 BIOTCHES!!!!!!!!!!! GeT CrUnK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lenko]

lets get freaky

[Lats, Squats, & Oates]

i will turn your esophagus into a racing track for my piss and shit to practice their P.I.T maneuvers on

[ZekeySpaceyLizard]

Why would I want to discuss something that upsets me? Something I decided I didn't want to take part in? How is avoiding bad things "posturing"? Throwing in buzzwords into sentences doesn't suddenly turn your baseless accusation into a cold fact, squef.

Well maybe its different for you but pretty much everything upsets me to some degree, even simple pleasures like masturbation or making a nice drawing or playing a video game, at some level I am ultimately annoyed by existence in itself. My accusation was that you sit in your dark room telling people that the things you like are better than the things they like, which may or may not be true at some point in time for just about anybody. I'd be surprised to meet a human who has never in their life insisted that their opinion was worth more than another persons. To me the fact that you had become so angry and shitty after getting your life together and getting some good money doing things you enjoy (more than shelling out blockbuster titles at least) proved that you never really believed in all that shit you had spouted before anyone. You were rigid and stern in your impoverished state, and suddenly you abandoned all the things you claimed to believe in once you became a bit more well off. The American dream.

See here is where you're wrong. Anyone who talks to to me regularly (not you) knows that I am alot more peaceful now than I used to be. My life is actually pretty fucking great right now. I actually FORGIVE people online now when they infuriate me! holy shit! Everything I do isn't fueled by desperation and rage anymore! wow! I guess that makes me a bad man.

And if you chose to read up on what I do these days (or dare I say check my blog where I post things I make) you'd see I haven't abandoned jack shit. I still make films for myself. And I still upload garbage I think is funny. I still post updates on Polypeptide, the short animated film I've been working on for like 4 damn years now.

Don't try to make me seem like a sellout when you're too fucking lazy to look at the thing's I've been producing independently for the last year, and then automatically decided these thing's dont exist.

I just choose to share them with the world on my own personal nook instead of the circus that is NG.

'gee robin williams hasnt made a movie in a while. i guess hes dead i will visit his grave'

Also me arguing that I think what I think about things is better than what YOU may think about things is nothing new. I did that shit when I was on n3wgrounds and I do it now. It's part of my personality. Something alot of people lack online. I have my own beliefs and if I see someone doing something I believe to be stupid, I'm going to say something. It's better than sitting around with my mouth shut waiting for things to get worse and being a useless lump on a log all day.

I'm gonna diverge into something related here but its a bit off, the fact that you're right even though its an obvious thing to point out, I don't know you at all I just have built up ideas and thoughts about you as a person in my head. You might think to some extent I idolized you but I honestly don't believe that is the case, I always saw you as a friend who just happened to be older and have more experience than myself, experience that I might be able to learn from.

Why would you even consider me as a friend? (this question is actually directed to alot of people who are probably browsing this thread right now. yes even you. yes you.)
We barely ever talked. We were aquaintences, if that. I cant spell aquaintence.

I suppose that is selfish and a terrible reason for a friendship to begin with, but the simple fact that I've never known you or anyone else online for that matter means that even if I were to idolize someone who I don't know (insert anyone), it would be idolization of my idea of who they are. But then again that hasn't stopped billions of people throughout history from idolizing God whom they have never met and know nothing about, maybe thats the point of it to begin with.

I've been called a God before. It feels pretty gay.

It's silly to avoid annoying and bad things online guys, you heard it here first.

I was saying it was silly to wordfilter n3wgrounds, killing any debate or discussion about it to begin with. Effectively labeling n3wgrounds as a problem and rooting it out before it gets to sprout its ugly head here and ruin the perfect utopia of thebackalleys posting paradise. I was saying its silly to get heated up over these debates, which you seem to think I am, this is all par for the course for me. Maybe you haven't recognized it yet but I have to break everything down and pour over every minor detail, I have to over-complicate and overstate everything, I have to question every single thing in order to find the common threads that tie them all together. Its simply in my nature, it seems to piss everyone around me off that I am restless in my pursuits of nothing, but I see no way of stopping. I was merely saying its silly to want to avoid discussion of something merely because it annoys and pains you, simply because to me everything is annoying and painful, yet we must continue to discuss and debate it because the is the purpose of life.

Rtil didnt put on the wordfilter because of me. Or because of Bug. Or because of any of the reasons you listed. If you lurked here before opening your mouth, you'd have noticed that pretty much every thread that had to do about NG that wasn't a collaboration thread ended up devolving into a giant gay pile of drama. Like this thread. But much worse. It stopped being funny and became dull and annoying and stupid. And so we decided to find a way to prevent it.

It's the same reason Rtil FINALLY banned darkeon after he made about 20+ drama threads that were boring to read and full of babies crying whenever he suspected someone didn't like him.

Not wanting to go to a frustrating infuriating website = unwarranted faggot elitism. Ok, then.
I guess by that logic, not wanting to download spy sheriff = punching someone.

Your 'unwarranted faggot elitism' comes from you and bug going apeshit over someone not being up to par with your ideals. Your ideals currently seem to consist of playing a lot of team fortress 2. Not from avoiding discussing n3wgrounds which merely ties in with the problem.

My ideals consist of alot more of that. If you bothered to read my blog or even talk to me back before I blocked you, you'd know this. Alot of people on TBA play Tf2. It's a fun game. So it comes up in conversation alot. If you bothered to actually TALK TO THE PEOPLE here you'd know that it's not what we do all day.
You know nothing about anyone here and yet come to this thread trying to claim you're an expert. Did you know that Jay seed lives with his crazy Dad? No. Because you don't ever come here. Did you know that Bug tried to get a job at Wildbrain studios? That he's trying to sell some old video games online? No I bet you didn't. Did you know Ry99an takes amazing photos and broke up with her bf recently? Did you know she got a great new job? Did you know I learned how to digitally paint? And that I got pretty good at it? of course you don't. That would require effort on your part to actually get to know people here and be informed before spouting off.

See I should stop here because this pretty much proves you only posted this giant paragraph to get me to respond. Good job, it worked. You made a bored person type something.
However, I'll go ahead and humor this passage because it's completely false.

This is good that you see that my entire post was humorous, but I wonder how it came to be that you then missed the blatantly obvious jokes within the post as evidenced by what you type below.

Because people pretending they know my psyche better than I know myself drives me up the fucking wall. Plus I was very bored last night. I'm bored now. I'm eating Salisbury steak in my living room as I type this. I have nothing better to do right now. I am enjoying life here arguing with you and eating this steak.

Squef, if you truly believe this (which you dont) I implore, no I BEG you to go into every post I have ever made and find a point in time where I have said that 4chan is philosophically superior to anything. Or for that matter, find a point where I even called it "good"

Since you took my obviously sarcastic sentence that was mired in hyperbole and hurt feelings literally, there is no point in me doing anything at this point other than saying good job! Good job on missing the point.

Considering that it's typed in the exact same way you type everything else, is it really that surprising? And considering you'd already typed equally ignorant things up until this passage, is it REALLY that surprising?

Or even better, find a time where I have made ANY comparison of TF2 to Newgrounds. Something I would never do because it's apples and oranges. One is a website of short films made by children. One is Quake with a different design played by children.

You don't have to make these comparisons directly when the point of the post was that you are opposing things you used to enjoy in favor of things you currently enjoy. The fact that you see how dumb all of these things you have enjoyed are merely speaks to your frustration with life itself. Which is something I find agreeable for the most part. Now you can go ahead and say this is all stuff I've made up in my head, which it is, but it probably isn't too far off from the truth.

Frustration isn't finding something stupid that is enjoyable. Nor is success. Frustration is reaching an impasse with no logical answer to get around it and a lack of patience.

You, being a really stupid kid, automatically assume that due to the fact I play TF2 and enjoy it and that I go to some areas of 4chan, that I automatically think they are the bee's knees.
You work in absolutes. TF2 has plenty of problems, from its furry servers, to its homoerotic fanbase. 4chan has so many things wrong with it, I could write a book.

Now that's just hurtful mister, but since you are assuming that I assume things (of course we both assume things we are human) lets go ahead and break this down bit by bit. I assume that due to the fact that you play TF2 and talk about how bad n3wgrounds is to the point where you closed your account down so you wouldn't have any reason or chance to ever go back to the site again proves that you are behaving like any angst ridden teenager would. I assume that due to the fact that you spout off horse shit all the time about how angsty teens are so god damned stupid, and yet continue to behave like one, proves that you are a big dumb baby. And before you take that last sentence literally and search your post history for the specific words "angsty teen stupid", you made fun of children several times in this post alone. Which is stupid, of course children are stupid they haven't had any experience with the world.

AH and here we come to the root of the problem yet again. You're massive ignorance of everything that has to do with me.
Let me put this in bullet points for you and feel free to save them in case this subject ever comes up again.


* I was already considering leaving n3wgrounds. It wasn't fun anymore, trolling was oldhat and I was frustrated with its awful system. I was planning on leaving soon anyway and had conversations with Psi and Bug about this.

* I got pictures of the moderation forum that proved that were all corrupt zealots as I'd always claimed they were. I posted them on my NG blog.

* Wade and Tom Fulp banned my account. My main account. The 7 year old account I had hundreds of crappy cartoons on.

* a few days passed and by then I was glad I was no longer able to log in. my anger over the injustice dissipated. I felt free and relieved that I had no reason to return to that place and argue with people half my age over stuff they had no understanding of.

* Tom decided to give me my account back for no reason. He sent a short poorly written email of apology. By that point I had decided that I didn't want to go to that site anymore unless I had to and decided to give the account away.

* Hans Van Harken is a trustworthy friend who happened to be on AIM at the time. So I gave the log-in details to him.

* I later set up my own personal website and have had a much happier internet existence since that point.

* months later I asked Hans to leave a note on my account informing people that it was dead and that if they gave enough of a shit to find out what I was up to, to visit my site instead.

That's what happened. I didn't decide to leave the site for no reason. I was given a decent opportunity to make a clean cut and I took it. The site had been frustrating me for ages. My cartoons always reflected that. How many anti-NG cartoons did I make? Why do you think I loved the original SS? How hard is it to figure this shit out? Seriously. Was it a surprise to learn I didn't want anything more to do with the site? Yeah, theres some parts I missed. Like the art forum contests and Stamper being a giant offensive funny dickhole. But they were far outweighed by the shitty parts and weren't worth revisiting.

If anything I am guilty of confusing and muddying your points of view into one general viewpoint. Now if you operate under the assumption that you can disassociate certain parts of your life from other parts, then we are at an impasse. I live under the notion that everything I experience is ultimately linked together, all the things I do are associated with each other and with my past, present, and future self. Its all a part of the process of existing.

And beyond that this is merely us splitting hairs since we both think n3wgrounds is a shithole.

So then why oh why are you prosecuting ME for believing the place is a shithole? What the hell is wrong with you?

But there are parts of it that are enjoyable too. Just as there are parts of newgrounds that havent been ruined yet.

This to me is a good statement as it proves you aren't drowning in your misery, you aren't a huge hypocritical baby, or whatever else I've tried calling you so I could hurt your feelings. Pretty much this right here proves that none of this back and forth has mattered at all because in reality we are both far more reasonable and likable people In Real Life than we are online. You realize there is good and bad in everything and you accept it, as any reasonable likable person would. High five.

Theres this rumor going around that I hate everything and it annoys me more than anything I could hate.

You didn't read anything I sent to you that night did you? I have been on the internet since the days of DOS. Nothing offends me anymore. But I am a selfish man and I look out for my well-being. If you don't care about getting in trouble and feel like saving child porn to your pc so you can share it with the world, then be my guest. But I want nothing to do with you. It's karma. You WILL get in trouble for this shit eventually. The government takes control of more parts of the internet everyday. Proxies can't hide you forever.

Now this is silly, but it makes sense. I've played up the whole argh im an internet rebel with nothing to lose and a deep dark mysterious past fuck you thing, so it makes sense you would buy into that. But in reality I have absolutely no cp on my hard drive, or my external hard drive, or my laptops hard drive, or anywhere else. I post some cp on tba a couple times and everyone assumes im a terrible heathen with tons of the shit everywhere and I spend all my time being a hardcore internet rebel or whatever, and I feed the fire by agreeing and acting accordingly. The reason I posted it in the first place obviously was to garner attention and offend people, the fact that a year or so later everyone thinks i've been creeb'ing it up my whole life makes it even more enjoyable.

It's not silly. My paranoia has kept me safe over the last however many years of my life I've spent on the god forsaken internet. I've never had a BAD virus. I've never been hacked. I've never lost personal info online. I've never lost money online. I think I've done pretty good in steering clear of things that could get me locked away. And I personally believe steering clear of you is in my benefit. Im only participating in this back and forth because of what I stated earlier about people thinking they know me well.

At a very young and impressionable time in my life the idea that I could piss people off online and derive pleasure from their frustration at being able to do nothing to me was a very pervasive one. One that im not sure I've entirely stopped, maybe its mutated, I'm not sure. That must be it because as I was reading your reply I couldn't help but lean back in my chair and pop some grapes in my mouth while rubbing my nipples. I am a hedonist of annoyance, a libertine of faggotry, over-consumption of strangers e-tears has turned me into a blubbery malcontent. I'd apologize for my misbehavior if only it wasn't so god damn stupid. How do you apologize for stupidity?

Like you apologize for everything else. You be honest. You say the "s" word. And you make an internal personal decision to stop doing whatever it is you did that hurt others.

I'm glad however that you got so upset at the fact that I don't want to talk to you because of that. It shows, much like this whole essay you've written, that you're just an angry fan.
Much like Ansel was, you're someone who thought I was a pretty cool guy and now that I'm tired of these kinds of shenanigans, it hurts your feelings because you still have such an emotional investment on what a big fat hairy guy on the internet thinks of you. That says more than your essay ever could.

If anything I'm upset at the fact that an older user of the internet finds me intolerable, because then I can't have him reminisce about the good ol' days to me. The time you told me the tale of T0MMY was a very good time. In fact I derived more entertainment from that then any of your flash movies or anyone elses flashes. Except maybe stinky boot fuckers thats still a favorite of mine I like to revisit from time to time.

whoa now.

WHOA NOW.


WHOA.

WHOA HORSIE.

I have no problems discussing the past. I fucking loved the good times on NG. But NG threads ON THEBACKALLEYS here are nevert about those times. They're about NG celebrities coming here and being butthurt because a member here gave them a bad review or insulted them in a post. Those threads aren't about good old times. And neither is this one.
This thread is (or was) about people trying to bring back those times by resurrecting a 'secret club' that died a long time ago and became a mere shadow of the greatness it once was. It's failure wasn't the fault of the members. It'd not F0d or GFC's fault that the SS died like 3 times. People leave. People get tired of doing the same old shit every day all day every day.

What I do take offense to is when something that WAS good and DEAD is brought back for no other reason than to grasp some stringy piece of nostalgia buttfloss. Each time the SS has come back I've been reinvited. And each time the place becomes the same way it was before it died. Lethargy, people bullying each other, and new members spouting SS jokes everywhere trying to fit in. People I don't know or want to know.

It's not being afraid of change. The SS changed alot over the years it was good. But we killed it for a reason. Why bring it back? Why do the same things with it you did before now that they have no punch? Why not just do what you did on the SS but on your own or with a few buddies? Why besmirch the name of the best thing that ever happened at NG by bringing it back constantly, having it suck, then having it die again and again.

The SS deserves better than that shit, and I will say that til the day I die.

Don't bring something back from the dead if you can't make it as good as it was when it was alive.

[ZekeySpaceyLizard]

Well if we want to go way back to when this all started in like 2007 for me, when I first saw that clown movie of yours on the front-page of n3wgrounds I didn't think to myself "oh boy this is so cool zekey is such a cool guy!" I thought to myself "why is this fucking crap on the frontpage, i could do this, just because that faggot zekey is an old star syndicate member FUCK YOU TOM". So it was a bit of a different mindset than you think, if anything I tried weaseling my way into the upper echelon's of my largely imagined internet hierarchy, and when I got there realized my reasons for wanting to be there were false, that the society I envisioned didn't exist or had otherwise fallen to utter decay, and that ultimately none of this shit mattered at all. I started getting to know more about myself and the world around me, and found that theres a lot of really cool cats in the places I was trying to go online, but it had mostly fallen apart by the time I got there, and the people I really liked didn't seem to care too much. Am I a big fat baby who spends all his time calling other people big fat babies? Its a definite possibility. Or on the other hand its possible my original notion of wanting to piss everyone in the world off panned out far better than I expected, and now I can piss people off by attacking their entire world view and their history and all this. I don't really know who I am yet but I know if things keep going like they have been for the past 5 years I'm going to be miserable and alone for my entire life, and im ok with that, after all at least ill be able to piss other people off on the internet lmfao!!!!!

Clown Show was great so fuck you. That's like the 3rd best thing I ever made.
Or are we talking about a different clown cartoon? I made too much shit to remember it all.

That's not funny at all. Or interesting.

lmao damn you fucken hardcore n shit???? hoo boy yeh uhh, actually, the fact that you once told me that making flash movies was way better than playing WoW because WoW is a waste of time, and now all you do is play TF2 (WoW with guns) and make weebl flashes (not good) is pretty fuckin funny and interesting.

I've already argued how wrong you are about this. Just because you've taken no initiative to find out what I've done with my life and my art, doesn't mean I don't make it anymore.

Hey champ, I still go to N3wgrounds if someone links me to good things from there as well. Especially when someone like Mindchamber or Hans van Harken or J_Seed link me to something. You'd know that if you bothered to read things I write. But who does that anymore? Not you, that's for sure. But feel free to think I blacklist everything like some sort of Nazi. You might want to actually find things I've written and not just hearsay from angry people from irc or aim or whatever amazing deep pool of information you dredge this gobbeldy gook from.

How could I read the things you write when you want nothing to do with me and I want nothing to do with anyone ?_? and I never said anything in that mess of text that you immediately blacklist everything from NG, even if thats what you thought was implied by it, but that entire breakdown dealt with how the general feeling in the TBA community is that if its from NG its bad so lets just not talk about NG. You weren't the only problem I was dealing with in that post.  The only reason I even bothered bringing you up is because Bug called me a rude name in tf2 earlier that day and I decided fuck you guys im gonna elicit a response from you, which you knew thats all I wanted, and thats what I got. I win the fucking championship of being a huge asshole please eat my shit.

for someone who hates people playing tf2 I find it rather interesting that you seem to play it occasionally.

I am glad I am the better man and decided to continue to hang around places I hate so I can draw parallels to them for the next decade.

but thats the entire internet

THAT is where you are quite wrong. As hard as it to believe, there ARE some decent place online where one can have a mature pleasant conversation with people about certain subjects without having to worry about or mention trolls, spam,, memes, injokes, 4chan, lolcats, or every other tumorous thing online.
And the best part is, despite lacking those horrible things, these places AREN'T BORING! You'd think they would be.
But you actually have to find these places. You have to look around at stuff you like and find others interested in it who aren't giant wads.
You're not going to find those kind of people on NG. Not many of them anyway.

You're clearly upset. But hey you got me to respond to you. Which is all you really wanted right? Enjoy your mental masturbation man you trolled me real good. I feel lower than a bow legged rattlesnake. I'm so dumb haha. I wish I had common sense and talent. Well time to draw some team fortress pornography for my secret sheezyart page. That's much more constructive than posting on n3wgrounds! Haha, I zinged that place good I am proud of myself for doing so! I am zekey and everything I say is right and everyone should read between the lines of everything I say because I am smart.

I am very upset because I am a shit eating baby. I am actually surprised you made a response post but I doubt bug will, that would make me a happy guy though. I didn't just want a response from you but I also wanted to derail the whole thread and maybe get some clarification as to why I've been spending the past couple years involved in this whole mess. Can nobody but myself answer the questions I have imagined? Is that what I'm supposed to take from all this? Who knows. When dealing with me you are dealing with 19 years of seething hatred seeking to ask itself why its so sad. That is my life so far, and I feel compelled to spill my guts to the online community I have seemingly fallen into because I have noone to turn to in the physical world. Sad and pathetic excuses are all I have to offer, to a world that has proven its ears are deaf and its heart is cold. Won't you show some measure of mercy dear Nathan and shotgun blast my soul into the ephemeral with your cunning forum posts, it is all I ask.

You would think I'd be weak by all the sicknesses I exude, all the festering boils that cover my identity, all the morose scars covering my fetid corpse-like state. However I am the carrier, I am the disease, I am made healthier and stronger the more tainted and perverted I become. You must destroy me now before I contaminate the holy waters of thebackalleys any further than I already have, it is an entirely cyclical process and it feeds me. I hunger for more. Strike me down now BEFore I become too far gone!!!!!!!!!!! *screams can be heard as i whisk myself away back to my gaycave where i insert noobies into my asshole for sustenance*

wat

[retrosmash]

i love u guys

[ZekeySpaceyLizard]

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5 Members: Zekey, rtil, sven, k0mat0se, charlotte

[sven]

its a baby being tied down to a table and being shit on by a grown man. pure comedic gold.

[retrosmash]

^ faggot go back to norway

[funzop]

i love u guys

this is the best thread ive seen so far this year

[Casey Pixmintro]

Yeah, interestin stuff

[Uncle_Tom]

Has anyone seen Time Log?

[retrosmash]

i wish time log would go back in time and fuck you up when you were young and your heart was an open book

[Uncle_Tom]

Here's a lnk to Time Loog 2.

You'll have to get to starberry if you want a link to Time Log

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/540889

[Uncle_Tom]

OK and here's my serious post fellas.

The more time I spend away from Newgrounds and the flash scene / whatever, the more i realize how silly these little squabbles we have are. The only interaction I have with the old group now is through the star syndicate aim chat which is more about a group of friends hanging out and chatting than an actual organization. The reason we all came together was through this group and the common interest of creating flash movies. Some of us liked to spam NG and upload crap, while others liked to put on decent shows and showcase their talent. For me it was a mix of both, because I'm NOT artistically talented at all, and got a lot of pleasure from the simplest accomplishments such as making a preloader or intro.

There's a lot of mud thrown around here for no reason and it honestly surprises me because we have so much in common. I look at TBA and see a community that resembles what SS was a few years ago. But just because our little groups don't exist in the same sense anymore doesn't mean we need to be so adversarial towards each other. Getting all worked up because there is a new season of daily toons isn't worth the energy. The people making these cartoons are still core star syndicate members (3, lauch). We all still share the passion that we held 5 or 6 years ago (hard to believe it's been this long) for making silly little cartoons and showcasing them.

I'm just typing things out as they come to mind, so forgive me if I'm repeating myself or it's not very well organized but that's something I wanted to get off my chest. Hopefully you guys read this and don't just skip over it because OMG its that spammer guy from before. For people who don't know this is rexCo and many of you were and still are my flash making buddies that I would be proud to be coauthored to.

[ansel]

i hope everyone in this thread gets super serious and posts their long-winded perspectives on this topic even if they were never in the SS THAT WOULD BE GREAT

[creamcorn]

[jjjjjjjjjj]

i hope everyone in this thread gets super serious and posts their long-winded perspectives on this topic even if they were never in the SS THAT WOULD BE GREAT

shut up you skinny white ugly prick

[ThreeStar]

that said i really enjoyed what the ss did and im glad you guys are still doing them and although i am a faggot who comes from that backalleys gAy pLAce 4 WannABEes whO TEh suk rTil DiCk all day.,.,.,... i would be happy to contribute¡¡¡¡¡¡
no one cares

hehehehe

i don't know who you are but i appreciate this post because A) it's not 4 pages long, and B ) it's sincere, and C) TBA is gay


but anyway 4 pages later i have no idea what you guys are even arguing about and i don't even have anything to contribute to a topic about something i've worked on f




edit: it turned my B ) into a stupid smiley face

[rtil]

a sincere post from nonzop that's a good one