Blood & Snow

Started by YungJazz, November 20, 2008 10:11 PM

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sQueef

Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

rtil

no caps that's an improvement

sQueef

Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

Labusch

Quote from: rtilno caps that's an improvement

Ying

why did you use the line tool to draw your characters in the first place?

YungJazz

i liked thin, crisp lines. now i want my stuff to look more stylized though, so i'm just doing whatever. and for some reason i feel like doing logos lately...






I warned you, stupid.

Labusch

Quote from: YungJazzi liked thin, crisp lines. now i want my stuff to look more stylized though, so i'm just doing whatever. and for some reason i feel like doing logos lately...



SHIT Jazz thats awsome did you use Fireworks

YungJazz

thanks. nah, it's flash.


I warned you, stupid.

Labusch

Quote from: YungJazzthanks. nah, it's flash.


I take it you drew it in Flash and then exported it as a Jpeg you wouldn't know how to turn on a Wacom Graphire 3 would you

YungJazz



I warned you, stupid.

Labusch

Quote from: YungJazznope, i do this.



yeah I've tryed drawing with a mouse and a tablet but I can't draw shit and I either draw the bodies or faces to big and then it takes over the 500 x 400 flash

sQueef

you need do work on yout logos

< need do stop using this joke from some bad review
Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

MRat

I was gone, FOR SO LONG

YungJazz

Quote from: Squeefyou need do work on yout logos

specify, maybe?


I warned you, stupid.

sQueef

Well firstly I would like to say that your logos are always very sloppy. I'm not suggesting you try using any other methods or tools but I am suggesting you spend more time making sure that the lines are clean, the backgrounds are clean, the gradients and strokes are all clean, any and all effects must be clean. Logo's aren't like characters you can't half-ass them in a sketch-tone and expect brilliant results, I wanted to mention making your linework cleaner first because not only is it the most important facet that you need to concentrate on, it will also become cyclical for you, in that if you focus on cleanliness and symmetry you will begin to notice vastly superior results already.

Secondly, I would like to point out your style choices. Judging from your SAMURAI LOGO, you like to use Arrows, you like to overlap letters, you like to use a curvy free-flowing style of lettering (all very basic observations to make me seem like I know what i'm talking about when really its just filler). Now this is all well and good if you are a master of style which clearly you aren't, not that I am either I'm just stating facts. Drop the arrows, nobody does fucking arrows, do you want all of your logos to look like Grinachi dropped by and took a huge shit on your logo before you send it out to various art dumps? Of course not! You have almost no balance in any of your letters, where are you getting this shit from, why does the S suddenly curve in on itself? It looks more like a retarded 8 than an S. You don't do any 3D effects either you just do a flat shitty drawing and slap some gradients on it, add some stroke and a stroke behind that stroke and voila! horseShit!

The U why is there a dot above the U.

The M almost looks like a good letter if it wasn't being space raped by the fucking A, i do like the style transition between the M and the U however thats not much redemption for you since overall it still looks very basic and boring. The M is also another one of your habits where you start a letter, and then midway through it decide "oh fuck symmetry!" and the other half doesn't even make sense in how it connects.

The Spider logo. Sure its fine to use logos in your logo thats all well and good, firstly I'd like to ask what the fuck a Spider has to do with a Samurai anyway, but historical inaccuracies aside, its O.k. In fact I'd say ditch the shit lettering and just stick to making that spider look badass, since the spider is at least clean. Did you use the line tool on the spider? It looks like it. The SUPER FATASS Stroke you got going on would be great if you had the stroke going off to one side, giving a 3D sort of "pop" to the piece but you don't you just have a flat layer of stroke behind a flat layer of shit lettering.

Now it ALMOST seems like you are trying to emulate graffiti, this could be totally false and just the way i'm perceiving it, if so then so be it I don't really care. However, if you are going to emulate graffiti and if that is the desired effect, then do it right. Observe the way the letters connect in your favorite local pieces, and take in what makes what letters pop and what makes the piece as a whole really stand out.

Now if you are going to go off blaming your "add" again then you can get fucked because ADD isn't even a real fucking syndrome, I've been diagnosed with ADHD and guess what I can keep my attention on a fucking .fla for more than 5 hours straight. I've also been diagnosed as "suicidally depressed" and I'm still breathin aren't I!!!!!!!!!!! Doctors are horseSHIT liars that want to steal your money and women............ do not trust them..................................................



I hope I've managed to help you in some small way. Now go off into the world and do as you please.
Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

YungJazz

damn, i will never say the word "specify" around you again lol. i'll work on it, and the ADD blame is a joke.


I warned you, stupid.

rtil

Quote from: YungJazzthe ADD blame is a joke.
well it's not very funny

YungJazz

Quote from: rtil
Quote from: YungJazzthe ADD blame is a joke.
well it's not very funny

It is to me, that's all that matters  


I warned you, stupid.

sQueef

Well you'll be getting used to a tablet now and I would expect even better results that is if you aren't more accustomed to using a mouse then a pencil by this point.

I know you ditched Pencil tool for characters, and that's fine, but perhaps you should stick to pencil tool or line tool for logo work. If you want cleaner logos that is!
Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

rtil

convert lines to fills

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