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billy

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Quote from: egoraptorSpending 6 months on a metal gear flash is retarded.


I'm NOOOOOOOOOOT OOOOOOOOOOOOOO KKKKKKKKKKK I'M NOT OOOOOO KAAAAAAAAAYAAAYAAAAAYEAH

no one fucking likes anonymous

rtil

Quote from: Squeefhey ego isn't that bad you fuckers brainwashed me

in fact hes pretty funny


god damnit
you have no one to blame for not having your own opinion except yourself

Sonni

Anonymous, are you under the influence of alcohol when typing that essay?
Quote from: Squeefhollywood just thought itd be cool to make goku an adult who uses uzis and drives ferraris


f0d

lmfaooo holy shit reading how this thing has escalated in the past few pages is hysterical

im gonna post an essay from one of my classes just to fit the mood

The advertisement I chose is from a mid-April copy of LA Weekly. It advertises "Natural Beauty," a Beverly Hills cosmetic surgery group which performs various sorts of plastic surgery. The advertisement's has a very specific target demographic: upper class females. To attract the female eye, the ad uses design features such as a pink color scheme and ornamental lettering. The primary subject of the ad is a nude woman, crouched with her head resting on her arm and leg, obscuring her private parts and face and emphasizing the contours of her body. Her slender figure represents a hyper-idealized form of beauty, one which the advertiser hopes to "sell" to women in the form of plastic surgery. This idealized feminine beauty is emphasized by the opaque imagery of pink flowers which overlay the female form and the airbrushed look of the woman's arms and legs which give her a plastic quality. In addition to this feminine allure, the ad is also associated with the upper class. The use of words such as "fine art" and "quality" as well as the group's location in Beverly Hills alludes to the ad's wealthy target demographic. The laughable suggestion that plastic surgery can be "affordable" would only be attractive to an audience that could, in fact, afford such an extravagant and unnecessary expense. In addition, the female figure presented in the ad appears elegant, upper class, and white. This advertisement relies on convincing an upper class white female reader that ideal, natural beauty is a product which can be bought and sold, the irony being that the "beauty" presented in the ad and attained through plastic surgery is not natural at all, but entirely artificial.
The primary way this ad functions is by presenting the American aesthetic ideal of a white woman as "perfect" and "natural" in order to market it as a commodity. The ad relies on making average looking women feel inferior by presenting them with a vision of something they are not, then convincing them to purchase a surgery that will physically alter their own appearance to more closely fit that idealized vision. The woman in the photograph is young, nude, and skinny. She is the conventional view of a sexually attractive female. As Mulvey would put it, she exists in the ad only as an object "to-be-looked-at," and that goes for both male and female readers. For a male reader, the model's "to-be-looked-at-ness" is the ad's sole allure. It shows an attractive nude female body, and even though it is an ad targeted towards women that uses feminine design features, it can attract the male gaze with this image of sexuality and potentially interest them in the product as well. For a female reader, the woman in the ad is also "to-be-looked-at," but her image may arouse more complicated feelings than simple sexual desire. The image purports to represent "natural beauty," a point which is emphasized by the transparent flowers, a symbol for naturally occurring beauty. But the highly sexualized woman is far from normal or natural, and represents a somewhat unattainable goal for the average or unattractive woman. Her image may arouse feelings of inferiority, envy or even shame, all of which would help the advertisers sell more plastic surgery.
The advertisement's flowery and sophisticated imagery that presents a sense of beauty is undercut by the irony of what the advertisement is for. As is detailed in the Sturken and Cartwright article, a sign is a representation of a referent, and is divided into signifier and signified. Here, the sign is the advertisement. The signifier is the serene imagery of the ad, including the feminine color, fancy font and the photograph of the female. The signified is plastic surgery and the supposed beauty that readers can attain through it. However, there is a stark contrast between the referent and the signified, which makes the ad very ironic. The ad's air of elegance and serenity is offset by the grisly reality of cosmetic surgery. The bloody details and potentially dangerous complications from procedures such as the ones described in the ad are glossed over and forgotten in the representation of a "perfect self" the reader should strive for. The title "natural beauty" is a misnomer because the product being advertised, plastic surgery, is a distinctly unnatural way of achieving beauty. Cosmetic changes such as "breast augmentation" often do not appear "natural" at all, but instead hopelessly artificial and even unattractive. The photo of the woman is not natural either, as it appears to have been altered greatly by a computer program with tools like airbrushing and overlays. Even the idea of beauty that is presented by the ad is artificial. The advertisers treat the vision of sexual attractiveness they present as objective, portraying the woman as being naturally beautiful like a flower, when in fact "natural beauty" is subjective and based on more than just surface value and sexuality.
   This advertisement is meant to idealize female beauty in order to make money off the perceived physical inadequacies of its readers. While the ad has a pleasant and soothing outer appearance, its underlying goals are to sell this look of "natural" yet unattainable beauty to those who do not possess it. Thus, the ad's flowery elegance glosses over the negatives of the cosmetic procedures it advertises, and the ad's claims of "natural beauty" contrast the overall artificiality of its vision of beauty and that which cosmetic surgery actually produces.

I have more of a life writing this review at 1145 pm than you guys do making these movies. . .

Gerkinman

Hey guys, ive been sick with the flue, i dont want to read all the shit behind hear, someone some it up for me.

f0d

Quote from: GerkinmanHey guys, ive been sick with the flue, i dont want to read all the shit behind hear, someone some it up for me.
anonymous is gay end of story
I have more of a life writing this review at 1145 pm than you guys do making these movies. . .

ZekeySpaceyLizard

anonymous is SO INDIE that the moment anyone is even slightly successful in anything, you are now the enemy

sQueef

#308
Quote from: rtil
Quote from: Squeefhey ego isn't that bad you fuckers brainwashed me

in fact hes pretty funny


god damnit
you have no one to blame for not having your own opinion except yourself
hey im pretty self-thinking; open-minded, independent, etc. most of the time

ass

thats a nice essay f0d did you get an A? Its like the type of stuff I write for my school assignments
Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

f0d

i never watch anything on ng anymore so i kinda have to form my opinions based on everyone else\\\'s eheheh

but i will admit when i first saw MGA i didnt think it was bad at all, it just wasnt funny because id never played the game

Quote from: Squeefthats a nice essay f0d did you get an A? Its like the type of stuff I write for my school assignments
yeh i got an A, its great too i wrote it the night before it was due at 2am stoned out of my mind and without the paper prompt. i didnt even follow the directions correctly i was sposed to talk about a movie we watched in class

if you ever need help writin essays, talk to me. i am the bullshit master. i can write the most pretentious pieces of shit you can imagine in like 10 minutes, guaranteed A

you\\\'ll notice in this essay i assumed the role of a man-hating feminist nut
I have more of a life writing this review at 1145 pm than you guys do making these movies. . .

sQueef

well I did watch a lot of ego's live videos on his site where he reviews games and shit back when i liked mga and stuff...

6 months of ng flash crew life warped my opinion on NG though and popular flash artists became my enemy or something really gay like that





luckily thats all in the past eh!!!??!!

^yeh f0d im pretty good at bullshitting too, and I use a lot of frivolous and unnecessary vernacular to make it seem like im saying something neat but its something really simple... Then again that is the whole object of bullshitting in essays isn't it. I guess I will be pretty good at college when I get there and probably end up doing a lot of shit like you do, the whole staying up late to finish your days work stoned out of your mind etc shit
Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

FG_SPace

why would you put this song up? its NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT OOOOOOOOOOOOO KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Crabarms

So far in the last few pages fod's essay was quite the read.
(not to say fod as in I know you but a short way to say foodeetin)

Hammi

I like writing essays too, especially the part when getting deep into it
<GreatRapperLenkazuka> lmao
<GreatRapperLenkazuka> hammi you are my top paki
<GreatPakiHammizuka> top at dem all maynn


egoraptor

Quote from: HammiI like writing essays too, especially the part when getting deep into it

Shit, me too. When I was applying for scholarships I had a blast writing all these weird topics and stuff.

Anonymous

Quote from: egoraptor
Quote from: Anonymousstuff

What the fuck is your point you're so ballistic in your arguments I don't even understand what the hell you're on about. All I gather is that you hate my flashes you think they're ruining animation as we know it and you think I'm an egotist. Except it took you 2 pages to say it. Bravo you're verbose.

Let me make this as clear as possible because it doesn't look like you understand. Spending 6 months on a metal gear flash is retarded. Why would I want to put so much of my free time into a project that is not using my characters or my stories. It is meant as a satire to make people laugh you know haha hehe oh look at that goofy animation about snake har har okay lemme go watch something else. Do you think 90% of the people who thought MGA was funny gave two shits about if it was gorgeous or not. No. But, I expressed in that very interview that I find it shitty that kids are taking the approach that they don't HAVE to put as much effort into animations because of me. But, you know, that's just how they take it, and I can't control how they interpret it. I'm not going to go ahead and spend half of my life making a stupid parody of a godamn video game just to prove a point or give a good example. I wanted to make it the way it is and I made it the way it is. Fuck you for thinking it's not right because who are you to say what is right and what isn't.

On the other hand when I finally get started on a project I care about having good visuals, having really great direction and storytelling and characters and conflicts I'll give you a buzz if you want me to because from what I can see you seriously don't think I'm capable of anything more than taking a dump into my tower and calling it art. You have one fucked up view of me and I can't imagine any of it is very grounded on much else other than your psychotic delusions of grandeur and your unfaltering desire to look like one cool dude man.

And now let me sit here and wait for you to once again tell me how egotistical I am and how blasphemous it is that I create animations wherein I intentionally cut corners in order to not waste my life on them. Don't forget to imply how much of a better person you are than I am.
Now how does it feel for someone to flip out on YOU for no reason telling you how to do thing.  

Now you know exactly how other people feel when you say stupid shit like that to other people.

Lol everyone else getting pissed after my atrocious long lists of mental masturbation was an unexpected bonus. I love you guys.

"Fuck you for thinking it's not right because who are you to say what is right and what isn't. "

Exactly how are you to say 6 months working on a project like MGS is retarded... Moment of zen yes?

I can't believe you're responding lol.

Oh just for the hell of it, let's keep it going. This is getting interesting.

What I'm saying is that you haven't done diddly shit with original content. It's all rehashed garbage, over and over again. That's it, you don't even have one simple original animation. I mean, god at least Legendary Frog tried in the beginning. But wait, if I keep doing the same thing over and over again and they love it.. well hell I should keep doing it? Well knock knock, sorry to wake you from your fantasy world, but your animations have gotten over played wayy too much.

Just because tons of 13 year old boyz wants to see some new Awesome animation, doesn't mean you have to continue up to 20 of them (probably coming up). For god's sake please do something original, it would make things seem soo much better. Well there was that halloween one. But hey you're in the logic I don't have, people want the same thing. They want sprite movies, parodies, just because their own original characters never took off.

Sell your lil t-shirts, and your wittle DVDs, oh oh man totally sell awesome plushies. Oh wait... copyrighted characters hhahaha, wow totally. I've never seen such a blatant way of selling off a copyrighted character. Oh totally original style, I mean, just quickly scribble and AH! it's a masterpiece. We'll put it on the fridge next to LF's special FF extravanganza! How cheap do you have to be to CONTINUE to keep using copyrighted characters. Hell I stopped wayy early when I first joined up, decided to *gasp* learn how to animate a bit! Even though gasp... I had over 100,000+ views, on the first submission. oh my!

But you've taken the quick road. You'll find your legacy is just poor simple poorly drawn animations. Because they like it and you keep feeding the squirrels. You're done man, you'll be riding with Foamy, hey he's made some bank on those shirts though phew. Make some room for LF, Waterman, and several other played out overdone fads. If you wanna prove me wrong, work on the animation of your dreams first, keep the awesome on the side, just do something else. You keep up the awesome series, you'll get stuck with it. And it gets really hard to break away.

Again and again, more and more, not even any visage of difference between characters. A few original sprawled here and there. But hey its cool man. Can't say I'm surprised in a site that regularly sells unhappy faces. Oh so original. Oh but its intentional! but only when its convenient hahaha. Yea.

Anyone could create an awesome cartoon, its been done before. But those long hours are really tightening up the back ... oooh man.... Animating sure is hard... mmm! I shall just animate poorly about my adventures in the world of gaming. Let's all sit by the campfire and here how a character gets in a messy predicament.

Please for god's sake create another 10 seconds of poorly drawn video game parody, it would totally be awesome. No no, draw all your favorite video game characters, and just brag about the potential you have. Unless you're actually doing it, don't brag bud. I wanna see some stuff from you, I see that crazy look in your eyes, work on something crazy, make it good, and shut me up.

Oh and I can have my voice actors do whatever the fuck I want. They can voice over the animation, hell they can improv it. Oh my the poor voice actor NOOO... But that shall ruin the state of how voice acting should be done! It's wrong whooooooo.


I can't believe you just read all that.

f0d

reading all of that isnt half as pathetic as writing it
I have more of a life writing this review at 1145 pm than you guys do making these movies. . .

sQueef

damn anon your ass got pwned

hehe
Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

trent bortknob

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sweet now i dont have to listen to shitty music when i click this topic

Anonymous

Quote from: Zekeyremember everyone dont forget to join anonymous's new fancy website!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know, it might actually get an under construction sign.  It'll be like a portal of grounds with new! And people can post flashes through a system where people vote and it gets approved omg, with a tank logo on the front! blarg. It'll be so original.

Hell fuck that I'm majoring in a field that works on this shit. Guess I shouldn't be in school. lol.

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