stupid reviews part 2

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MindChamber

#220
Quote from: GerkinmanBecause you all come across as tho your trying to be "internet badasses"

Whats that old meme, arguing on the internet is like running in a wheel chair race, even if you win your still retarded.

Also because the song is rad.

but Im not...

I just thought it was funny people where talking shit about me here.Rtil cries that no one understands him, and twists his character, but I'm supposed to let people talk about me like they know me and twist my image?  lol how does that work...So heres all this pissy whiney shittalkin from the same people  that Tom and myself support and try to front page.
so naturally i wanted to get some points across but all ya just stick your fingers in your ears like whiny bitches
how was I supposed to know you guys just want something to hate,, something to keep ya all together .
I see that now.   I should've just figured it out sooner,

eventually you will all get bored of this angsty pissy shit and actually produce something other that spam hate.

aight later.

rtil

wow you never learn anything do you

MindChamber

Quote from: rtilwow you never learn anything do you
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learn what?

teach me.. show the error of my ways.

rtil


MindChamber

#224
Quote from: rtilbroken record


really,  so I want hear you out. and thats what you give me?

you clam up?

Gerkinman

Im sorry but none of this changes the fact that its a rad song.

rtil

more like i'm sick of feeling like i'm talking to a wall

Crabarms

Things take time.
Can you honestly say that one days worth of skimming through the crap we post
will give you an accurate answer of what were like?
If you would read further and think beyond what you read everyone here is
developing there own creations or abominations but not everything is about
making fun of things we hate.
The same can be said to you, from what you've posted you made an ass of yourself
your probably not like that but why bother going through the trouble of picking fights,
sure defending your self is one thing as well as giving your opinion but take in account
that like you said "everyone has there opinions". Maybe your not being serious
and just getting people to respond back for shits and giggles.
Mostly people are being attacked because of taking things seriously but oh well
my point is you cant label everyone nor change someones mind by acting retarded.

sQueef



what do you guys think of my amazing song??
Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

Gerkinman

I think everyones to busy shitting there pants to care unfortunately :(

I cracked up at it.

Crabarms

best beat boxer around

MRat

I was gone, FOR SO LONG

rtil


sQueef

Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

Blordow


Professor Jaggles

#235
What is the difference between Parody and Satire? Many a young student of the humorous arts has confused or even equated the two, but this does both a disservice by oversimplifying them. They are different fruits of the same branch, both delicious in their own right, but neither exactly the same as the other.

To begin- what is parody? I could quote Websters, but would that old trick really service the discussion? Still, I suppose, in this case, where the offender started this mess with a quote from that bastard offspring of reference texts, wikipedia, an old trick may be needed. So let's look at the definition as Webster's  defines it:

Quote1  : a literary or musical work in which the style of an author or work is closely imitated for comic effect or in ridicule  
2  : a feeble or ridiculous imitation
Let's break that apart, shall we? Most of its meaning should be apparent, but examining tiny details are necessary when dealing with profound ignorance.

"For comic effect" - Parody can be seen as an homage, of sorts, a tribute to the original by pointing out the subtle peculiarities of the creative. By exaggerating these eccentricities, one may illicit laughter from his audience, but it does not necessarily connote ridicule.

"or in ridicule" - This is where overenthusiastic (or lazy) students tend to get caught up. But note this - while a parody may ridicule the flaws of a given work, it never explicitly states them. Rather, a true parody points those flaws out by exaggerating them.

"a feeble or ridiculous imitation" - this sums it up perfectly. Parody is an IMITATION, and does not step outside those bounds. What commentary it offers is neither outright stated nor immediately discernible. It may not even make a comment, preferring rather to mine for rich, sweet, laughter from the rich mines of funny that are inherent in a ludicrous situation. Parody is, above all else, about making the audience laugh. Making them laugh is secondary.

Parody is not always at the expense of the subject matter. Note this. It can be, but it isn't always. Parody is always an imitation. ALWAYS. That is what parody is. If you can remember that, you'll be fine. Parody is imitation. No exceptions.

Accepting that, let's look at satire.

I would go with a dictionary definition, but dictionaries tend to not give good example for what it is. Webster's for example says:

Quote1  : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn  
2  : trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly
This certainly gives you the gist of it, but you may be inclined to believe that satire cannot outright mock a certain individual. In fact, this definition makes one feel like satire has a very narrow reach, with the phrase "vice and follies" thrown about. This definition is, of course, accurate, but it doesn't give the reader an accurate PICTURE of what satire really is.

Works of satire use art to ridicule. Political figures, celebrities, institutions, abstract ideas, it doesn't matter. Whatever the target is, rather than directly parodying (read: "imitating") it, satire puts a context around it in which it can be mocked. A cartoon with a literal political boxing match, where Obama and Hilary bruise each other up, only for the winner to have to take on McCain, tired and bloodied? That's satire. A movie where bureaucracy has lead to a world where a man has to live in a cemetery after accidentally being declared legally dead? That's satire. A story about superadvanced aliens who come to earth, only to ask for directions as far away from here as possible? Shitty-ass satire. But that's beside the point.

Satire is not a mere imitation, it is commentary, a context in which a subject can be held up to derision. Can it be funny? Yes, but that's not the most important part. Satire is about criticizing something or someone by creating a situation where its flaws can be highlighted. Exaggeration can be used, but a point to be made is that it's not just an exaggeration.

So which is which? Indeed, it can be confusing sometimes.

A movie called "eXposed: an eXplanation for why eXpelled is a dumb fucking movie", a piece by piece deconstruction of all the bullshit in Ben Stein's newest movie, and probably a few testimonials from holocaust survivors who don't agree with him about the whole "darwinists caused the holocaust" thing.

It'd probably suck, full of Michael Moore-inspired "humor," but it'd be an accurate satire because it puts a context around Stein's movie and derides the fuck out of it.

A movie called "Kicked Out: The lie of a heliocentric solar system" which exposes the travesty of several scientists from Omaha U who were kicked out by the CONSPIRACY OF ZION-UH I MEAN BIG SCIENCE for their cutting-edge theories about how the earth is flat and the sun revolves around it. It would feature a droning Armenian narrator who formally worked for Nixon, who explains to us why Coperni-cists are responsible for the Armenian genocide, which he would cry about, thus guilting us into siding with him.

It'd probably be funnier than the first one, but its not really as insightful, poking fun of faults it assumes we are already aware of. Parody, an imitation of the original. It may make people more aware of the flaws in the original, but the primary purpose is to make us laugh.

Can you see the difference? Once again - Parody; imitation, Satire; a context through which derision can be delivered, like so many FedEx boxes of diarrhea. Telling the difference is the first step to true happiness. Or something like that.

I hope this has been enlightening, and now I must go, to teach experimental English in the Cornell Subbasement. Away!

rtil

woah. longest first post ever

Gerkinman

I feel deeply edumacated after reading that post.

trent bortknob

hly shit who the fuck is that faggot

MRat

Quote from: rtilwoah. longest first post ever


and the best
I was gone, FOR SO LONG

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