Voice Actings.

Started by D-Mac, April 8, 2008 11:05 AM

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D-Mac

So here's a thread to talk or ask about any voise actins from any animation cartoon or flash thing or whatever. okay, go.


Continued from somewhere. Warning incoming giant megapost. =/


Quote from: michellei mean are you saying people who suck at what they do don't ever get work?
Well, certainly not in a general sense. But in Union animation voice work (which is, most of the non-anime stuff in North America), standards and budgets are typically higher and casting directors are more experienced. It's hard enough to impress a good voiceover agent to begin with, which is needed in order to tryout for pretty much all Union work.

In the case where someone lucks their way through a Union audition, but can't meet the producers' and voice director's standards in the actual paying recording session, then they're going to have a pretty hard time ever finding work again. Word really gets around.

Quote from: MRatTom Cruise
Never really cared for him, though some would say he was good long ago. Point is, film actors have the benefit of riding out their star power and name value, and this is exactly what Cruise does. Voice actors don't have this benefit, and by comparison, are easily replaceable.

QuoteCam Clark.
You say this like most people would agree. If he couldn't perform to directors' requirements, he certainly wouldn't work nearly as much as he does. I actually think his vocal range is really poor, so thankfully I've never heard him play more than 2 major roles in a single production.

QuoteKagome...
She's working professionally in non-Union anime right now, as well she should be. I don't enjoy and barely understand the anime style, but she fits it to a tee. Shame she doesn't focus on much else, and she probably needs to totally reinvent her style if she ever hopes to get animation work outside of anime.

QuoteLook at Egoraptor. Horrible cartoons, yet they're the most popular things.
Doesn't really tie into my current point. His voice work would be another story though...

QuoteAnd I never said YOU were horrible D-Mac, I said the job you did was. And frankly, it was. The most important thing in voice acting is going to always be to sound natural, like you're a believable person. And you didn't. It's that simple.

Indeed, believability is what makes a performance. This couldn't be more true. On top of this, the challenge to an actor is:
What is believable and natural for said person, given their specific situation?

While the writing could've been better, some key points in it left me with only one believable direction to take my character in, and I felt you overlooked them all. Hence why you considered my performance to be so totally wrong, while I couldn't agree with you at all.

Quote from: MRatHe sounded like he woke up and mumbled into the microphone then went back to sleep.
In a really twisted way, in terms of the emotion I realized I needed to get across,  that's actually.... almost half right.
Now, why on earth would I aim for anything close to that? There's actually a few very good reasons.

Side note: Most of my many, many, many unused takes where actually quite the opposite.

Quote from: MRatdrew all the attention away from the dialogue and put the focus on his voice itself, which is terrible.
I've seen you say this exact same thing once or twice about others. Is it a rule of sorts that you picked up through your theater background? It'll never be said by a voice director, as the voice actor's only tool to sell dialogue IS though their voice. We wouldn't say that one can overshadow another.

Unless, this is just your way of saying "you're playing too large/too small" or "you're selling the wrong emotion".


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let's all set our phasers on "boring"

Greenkitten

Quote from: D-Macvoise actins

 

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D-Mac

NO it is totaly carrect and totalley wasent Miss spelld on porpoise. it all iz.

trent bortknob

alright fine d-mac ill add you to the idiot list if you really want it that badly

psi43

ok, stop posting huge posts about stuff nobody cares about.

Necronomitr0n

Quote from: ΨNicoleok, stop posting huge posts about stuff nobody cares about.
the nail that sticks out shall be hammered down
<+fawx> im trying to animate a dick coming out of a toaster how do i go on about doing this
<~rtil> well fawx what you would do is delete the fla and do something productive instead

<+ansel> i lure children into my van with candy and then i read them passages from 'the origin of species'
<%ropesnake> billy con ends with billy raping his cat
<+billymonks> FUCK YOU BUG

<~rtil> ya one time i gave this hobo some cat food and he ate it like the animal he is it pleased me

MRat

Eh, I have a voice acting agent and I've worked a few voice over gigs. Guess what a director told me once, "You're taking the focus off the dialogue and putting it on yourself." Pretty good advice.


Anyway, I think this is a good idea. I mean, to have thread where people can go to if they need a voice actor.

Discussing is fruitless though, D-Mac because you're way too narrow-minded about this whole thing. You act as though the act of disagreeing itself is proof that you're right. Please explain yourself if you want me to accept your position. And I don't mean in a wall of text either. I mean, you could say something really simple. Like those nuances your brought up that I overlooked. What are they?

Don't say pauses either. Pauses aren't emphasis, pauses are the lack of emphasis. First thing we learned in my VA study group. Yes, they can indeed serve a purpose, but just having them in there doesn't do anything but end up being distracting.
I was gone, FOR SO LONG

sQueef

#9
Here's a tip! Don't argue with MRat that guy is like a pitbull that never lets go.



also fuck voice acting Noir is the way to go!
Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

Philip K Dick

im a pretty good voice actor as seen in my latest flash movie

sQueef

I think HLG is actually a good voice actor especially for comedys. He probably likes that "Tim an Eric awesome show" but maybe not, either way he has almost the exact comedic timing as they do on that show. I personally don't like that show but I loved Mr. Show with Bob and David, and HLG has that same quirky sense of humor with like i said, that same off kind of comedic timing.

I love it! Cat Cube was genius! 5 stars.
Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.

Philip K Dick

lmao youre right i love tim n eric

MRat

Noir bitches!



Also yeah HLG is the best.
I was gone, FOR SO LONG

Gerkinman

Nobody here will ever voice act aswell as Legendary Frog. His skills know of no bounds.  

rtil

oh lord
won't you bake me
a blueberry pie

Gerkinman

He has a hardcore stuttering problem so he has to record his lines liek a thousand times. True story.

MRat

Quote from: GerkinmanHe has a hardcore stuttering problem so he has to record his lines liek a thousand times. True story.
yeah

Dim from the Super Flash Bros. told me once that when they were doing the FF7 about random battles thing that it took a month for him to get the opening monologue recorded.
I was gone, FOR SO LONG

Gerkinman

I think you mean Decline of Video Gaming, but yes, i had the mp3 once upon a time, it was the lolzords.

sQueef

Oh, wretched ephemeral race ... why do you compel me to tell you what it would be most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is—to die soon.