sketches

[anigen]

"different human-based sketches that ive been doing at school, kind of makes my notebooks more amusing

i did them in this order, all in different days throughout the last two months (note that i draw other sketches but i decided to pick only the ones that i thought were good)

1st - top left
2nd - middle left, second to top
3rd - top right
4th - middle left, second to bottom
5th - bottom left
6th - bottom right

6th i did today. tell me if im getting better. it was my first paper attempt at practicing contraposto"

^ got that from deviantart

[MRat]

You're definitely improving. Not drastically, but I can see more, I guess confidence, in your drawings. Less ambiguity in where certain things are defined. Like you know what you want.

There's obvious Rtil influence, but that's not really a bad thing.


Given your age, I think if you keep at it you'll be pretty good by the time college rolls around.

[Gerkinman]

too much rtil not enough anigen teh

as hypocritical as it is for me to say it, you need to focus more on basic construction instead of trying to draw like the artists you really like. You will find that you improve more quickly and can draw alot more versatile that way.

[anigen]

You're definitely improving. Not drastically, but I can see more, I guess confidence, in your drawings. Less ambiguity in where certain things are defined. Like you know what you want.

There's obvious Rtil influence, but that's not really a bad thing.


Given your age, I think if you keep at it you'll be pretty good by the time college rolls around.

thanks

too much rtil not enough anigen teh

as hypocritical as it is for me to say it, you need to focus more on basic construction instead of trying to draw like the artists you really like. You will find that you improve more quickly and can draw alot more versatile that way.

uh fuck you???

i dont try to draw like rtil you shithead. this is my own style. yes, the style is influenced by rtil. thats obvious. everyone points out that my style has something of an rtil influence. maybe its because ive been watching his work for 2 years now. you dont just "make a new style". you start off drawing shit and gradually your style takes different shapes and properties from other styles you observe while drawing

to say that im trying to draw like rtil is like saying rtil is trying to draw like the people who made the art for Jet Set Radio, JUST because his style and some of the things he draws takes inspiration from it

you on the other hand are a conceited douchebag with a lot to learn about art. the only reason you're even here is to leech off of rtil to gain some sort of popularity like you did with legendary frog. seriously, you say that you're here to get advice. i find that extremely doubtable considering you yourself refuse to improve. you make a thread, people give criticism and you try to deny it by saying that it's just your style

and your comment here is clearly you trying to get back at me. normally i wouldnt give a shit about this sort of thing but coming from an arrogant piss like you im actually insulted

[Hammi]

I like your eyes lol.

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no no no eww. I mean the way you draw em. I like the look you give em. Somehow psychotic and twisted. Youre definitely good at that. The nose looks fine too. Ive seen quite a lot of self portraits from you. And i can see how youre trying to set the perspectives. Good practice. The proportions are also decent looking. I was hoping to see some more body shapes though.

Other than that, thats a quite rough doodle xP

[Daagah]

what i find weird is that when someone draw in an anime influenced style/anime then it doesn't really matter that you are using the same style as almost every other anime artist out there. Same thing with the "western style". But when your style is clearly influenced by ONE single artist everyone goes HEY DONT COPY HIM FIND YOUR OWN STYLE

i like your stuff, and the fact that it is clearly influnced by rtil doesnt make it bad. i have myself gotten a lot of that crap over the years, and it really is insulting, especially when it isnt your intention to copy someone. keep drawing

[anigen]

what i find weird is that when someone draw in an anime influenced style/anime then it doesn't really matter that you are using the same style as almost every other anime artist out there. Same thing with the "western style". But when your style is clearly influenced by ONE single artist everyone goes HEY DONT COPY HIM FIND YOUR OWN STYLE

i like your stuff, and the fact that it is clearly influnced by rtil doesnt make it bad. i have myself gotten a lot of that crap over the years, and it really is insulting, especially when it isnt your intention to copy someone. keep drawing

thanks man. although i shouldnt have really cared about what gerkinman said. a lot of people have told me they've gotten bullshit criticism from him. he's generally an idiot and i should take what he says with a grain of salt

also thank hammi. my stuff is pretty rough on paper, i definitely gotta work on that, along with everything else

[MRat]

Working on it should never stop. Ever. Everyday, and I mean ever single goddamn day. Draw. Lots.


Make sure you buy a sketchbook and just draw all the time. Everything you see. If your on a bus, try and draw the people around you. Draw your room. Do it from your own eye's view, then in a stricter perspective drawing sense.

Draw animals, draw cartoons. Draw other peoples characters your way, and their way. You will learn something from every drawing you do.

[Gerkinman]

i dont try to draw like rtil you shithead. this is my own style. yes, the style is influenced by rtil. thats obvious. everyone points out that my style has something of an rtil influence. maybe its because ive been watching his work for 2 years now. you dont just "make a new style". you start off drawing shit and gradually your style takes different shapes and properties from other styles you observe while drawing

is that really how its done? i was of the mind that once you learn construction you could head off into any style or genre you wanted. I think style is an overused word, and more to the point an excuse. Not only that but if you want to get a job in the industry having your own style is a bit of a handicap, employers want people who can immitate a vast variety of styles, styles that are already popular, they dont care about your personal preference.

to say that im trying to draw like rtil is like saying rtil is trying to draw like the people who made the art for Jet Set Radio, JUST because his style and some of the things he draws takes inspiration from it

Peoples remarks about rtil's similarities to Jet Set Radio tend to focus more on his world and style of storytelling then his art style itself.

you on the other hand are a conceited douchebag with a lot to learn about art. the only reason you're even here is to leech off of rtil to gain some sort of popularity like you did with legendary frog. seriously, you say that you're here to get advice. i find that extremely doubtable considering you yourself refuse to improve. you make a thread, people give criticism and you try to deny it by saying that it's just your style

I do have alot to learn, but please dont compare cartooning and art. As for leeching, how am i doing that, i was talking to rtil for a long long time before joining this forum, how does being on this forum make me a leech? What evidence do you have to back that up? How exactly does one leech of rtil? Well, aside from trying to draw like him, oops. As for me refusing to refusing to improve, i have this thing you school kids dont have, its called a life, its this thing some people get when they finish school, you know they get a full time job, they have bills to pay, shopping to do, housework that needs to be done, cooking, cleaning, responsibilities, freelance. I might be lucky to get 6 hours a week where im not either working, payed or otherwise, or sleeping.  6 hours isnt a long time, but i try to make the most of it, im sorry i cant just sit there at school drawing in my maths book, but thats just the way it is. You should recheck because i never use style as an excuse, i use time.

and your comment here is clearly you trying to get back at me. normally i wouldnt give a shit about this sort of thing but coming from an arrogant piss like you im actually insulted

Get back at you for what? being a jerk, just like me, and 99% of everyone else on the internet? No not really, i just looked at it and threw in my opinion, im suprised your so offended by having your work compared to rtils and being told your basic construction needs improving. Or maybe your just offended because it came from that guy that everybody loves to hate.

[MRat]

decent response

I see Anigen's point, and I see yours, but it's a waste of time that could be better spent DRAWING AND IMPROVING to sling shit back and froth like this.


Stop arguing, and start getting better. BOTH OF YOU.

[anigen]

is that really how its done? i was of the mind that once you learn construction you could head off into any style or genre you wanted. I think style is an overused word, and more to the point an excuse. Not only that but if you want to get a job in the industry having your own style is a bit of a handicap, employers want people who can immitate a vast variety of styles, styles that are already popular, they dont care about your personal preference.

no im pretty sure art is a field in which you constantly learn more

and i dont give a shit about the industry. making cartoons for other people is dog work in my opinion. i would never work for cartoon network and have to make shitty cartoons for shitty pay. animation is a means of creation. it should be free and enjoyable for the person doing it.

Peoples remarks about rtil's similarities to Jet Set Radio tend to focus more on his world and style of storytelling then his art style itself.

uh his art style and world/character designs go hand in hand. i would figure that would be pretty obvious

I do have alot to learn, but please dont compare cartooning and art. As for leeching, how am i doing that, i was talking to rtil for a long long time before joining this forum, how does being on this forum make me a leech? What evidence do you have to back that up? How exactly does one leech of rtil? Well, aside from trying to draw like him, oops. As for me refusing to refusing to improve, i have this thing you school kids dont have, its called a life, its this thing some people get when they finish school, you know they get a full time job, they have bills to pay, shopping to do, housework that needs to be done, cooking, cleaning, responsibilities, freelance. I might be lucky to get 6 hours a week where im not either working, payed or otherwise, or sleeping. 6 hours isnt a long time, but i try to make the most of it, im sorry i cant just sit there at school drawing in my maths book, but thats just the way it is. You should recheck because i never use style as an excuse, i use time.

like style and designs, art and cartooning also go hand in hand for a cartoonist. leeching? the only reason anyone remembers your name is because you were associated with legendaryfrog. back then it was "good publicity". now that legendaryfrog is a washed up pile of dogshit, its pretty clear that you're here for the sole point of getting buddy buddy with rtil for the same sort of publicity. I'm not the first that has pointed it out, either.

and dont fucking give me that "I HAVE A BUSY LIFE AND TONS OF SHIT TO TAKE CARE OF!" bullshit. if you're so busy why are you even here? coming to a forum to argue with people and stride around being a pretentious ass isnt exactly what i'd call "making the most of your free time".

Get back at you for what? being a jerk, just like me, and 99% of everyone else on the internet? No not really, i just looked at it and threw in my opinion, im suprised your so offended by having your work compared to rtils

no. you didnt compare my work to rtils. you said i tried to draw like him. theres a huge difference between trying to deliberately draw like him and learning from the techniques he uses in his art.

and being told your basic construction needs improving.

haha yeah show me some of your basic construction then

Or maybe your just offended because it came from that guy that everybody loves to hate.

yeah the world is out to get you man look out!!!

[psi43]

Anigen, when you receive criticism you aren't supposed to say "You can't do it any better". Your style sure looks like rtil's but you will soon move away from that. When I started to draw, my style looked a lot like Coffee Lock's, then it moved towards Sinister's style a little and now it's almost completely different from both of their styles.

[anigen]

i actually agree with gerkinman on the basic construction. i am a shitty artist. the rtil thing offended me because it was gay and inaccurate

in fact its pretty gay that we're talking in paragraphs of different arguments when my only arguments with gerkinman are his general attitude and his shitty comment about me trying to draw like rtil

[ZekeySpaceyLizard]

what a gay and pretentious flamewar

[Gerkinman]

and i dont give a shit about the industry. making cartoons for other people is dog work in my opinion. i would never work for cartoon network and have to make shitty cartoons for shitty pay. animation is a means of creation. it should be free and enjoyable for the person doing it.

Im glad to hear that, i wish more people thought like that.

leeching? the only reason anyone remembers your name is because you were associated with legendaryfrog. back then it was "good publicity". now that legendaryfrog is a washed up pile of dogshit, its pretty clear that you're here for the sole point of getting buddy buddy with rtil for the same sort of publicity. I'm not the first that has pointed it out, either.

Actually, people only remember my name because of Joanime, strangely people think i was only buddy buddy with LF to get popular, nobody takes into account the fact i was also friends with Serge, Cycon, Flash Bros and Pikanjo at the time. We were all a relatively tight little group at that time, the flash community was alot different back then. As i mentioned before ive known Rtil for a while now, even tho we dont talk that frequently, i dont understand how that equal me trying to become buddy buddy with him for my own gain. Gain of what? Being popular on newgrounds? Theres an old internet meme, "Its like running in a wheelchair race, even if you win your still retarded", and thats pretty much how i look at sites like newgrounds and DA/SA. Internet cred is worth nothing, i dont know what the point of trying to be popular on these places is, other then to make you feel better about yourself. Not only that, but do you really think Rtil would be stupid enough to let someone leech of him like that? I doubt it.

and dont fucking give me that "I HAVE A BUSY LIFE AND TONS OF SHIT TO TAKE CARE OF!" bullshit. if you're so busy why are you even here? coming to a forum to argue with people and stride around being a pretentious ass isnt exactly what i'd call "making the most of your free time".

I am at work, we have the internet. Its only early in the year so the industry is still quite with campaigns still in the planning stages. Its alot easier for me to type on forums and look like im working then it is for me to sit here and draw.

haha yeah show me some of your basic construction then

I actually did quite a bit of that kind of thing while my PC was brocken, now i have Vista my scanner and video camera dont work, itll take a while before i can get the stuff online. I cant draw aswell with a tablet, i find it to imprecise and messy. So give it time and i will.

yeah the world is out to get you man look out!!!

I wouldnt go that far, but id be stupid not to acknowledge that ive been little more then a joke for the last few years.

what a gay and pretentious flamewar

Isnt that what forums and internets are for?

[Daagah]

HEEEEEE-MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

[MRat]

What the hell Zekey. WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR IMAGE MACRO?

[GRINACE]

There's obvious Rtil influence, but that's not really a bad thing.


Given your age, I think if you keep at it you'll be pretty good by the time college rolls around.

I've been noticing that alot lately (no offence). Ur sketches are pretty cool though. I think imma make something in flash rite now lol!

[Daagah]

What the hell Zekey. WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR IMAGE MACRO?

hahahah i was thinking the exact same thing

[Philip K Dick]

work on your proaropnds