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[SrsSam77]

whereas a vote for trump is supporting corruption of culture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUELmc9fY7c

The opposite in fact, Trump may be the last chance of preserving american culture we have left

also >le bankruptcies

How many Trump businesses have went bankrupt though? 5-7? How many businesses or business ventures have his name on them? Most would say somewhere around 500

The bankruptcies are almost solely from licensing deals, in which, if you don't know, someone purchases the rights to have an organization or person's name on something. Trump had nothing to lose in those deals and probably made at least some money , and if anything happened, both sides had lawyers ready to talk it out.

Hell, Trump isn't even that much of a risk taker, he's never done drugs or drank alcohol, the fucker has even made all of his wives to date sign preenups (which is admirably hard to do). When it comes to business deals he always makes sure that his side will always be in the better position no matter the outcome and all of his business interests are strongly diversified to ensure his assets are always stable.

Based on everything we see, Trump consistently tries hard to avoid risk in everything he does. And people don't change character at age 70.

   
Sure, He can make risky moves when it comes to dealing with others, but only if they a) attack him first or b) it makes sense

Don't fall for the literal hypnotization efforts of Clinton's million dollar social psychologist and influence team

[Stu4U]

jesus christ sam how far is your head up your ass

[Stu4U]

you're like

worse than kizu at this point

[Bamyasi]

And Stu demonstrates yet again that he lives in Not An Argument Friend-land.

the big problem with this election is that a vote for clinton is supporting corruption of government , whereas a vote for trump is supporting corruption of culture- they're both part of the problem. a bigger issue is that both sides have a complete doomsday scenario in their head for if the competitor wins, and a chunk from both sides believe that their candidate can do no wrong yet the other is satan incarnate. past both their cringy personal issues, when you have complete lapses in common sense like someone who thinks that hilldawg is 100% trustworthy and yet turn a blind eye to how much she's flip-flopped on policies over the past 20 years, or someone who believes trump can bring the US back into economical prosperity ignoring that he and his companies have filed for bankruptcy several times in the past decade, you gotta ask if these are honestly the best both parties could do

Yeah I agree with everything you said here. I don't have delusions of Trump being a savior, but I do think his election would be a step in the right direction, whereas Clinton's ascension could potentially be our last step in the wrong one. We don't really know where a Trump presidency would take us, but most of us can guess where another Clinton would. Most Trump supporters are desperate enough to cast the die and place all bets on a political outsider than let the worst breed of criminal inherit the throne, (and many Clinton supporters, especially ethnic minorities, are desperate enough to do the opposite). I'm illustrating your point about the opposing doomsday scenarios but that doesn't necessarily mean I don't keep equal horror in mind for a Trump presidency.

my family, who mainly live in missouri, have often been on the opposite end of the political spectrum to me, are voting trump this year. thing is, they absolutely hate trump- think he's a bigoted misogynist, etc. but they feel the need to vote GOP because well, with so many supreme court justices on the way out, they want to vote for the candidate who will likely hold the same values as them. they're voting out of obligation, but have begun to resent the system now that they're in an election where neither people in the DNC nor RNC are the sensible candidate, and it sure doesn't help that both committees are working against the people voting for them

Well then I completely understand your distaste for Trump supporters. Pretty much my entire family votes Democrat every election, and are grudgingly doing so this cycle again.

and i agree with that completely- bernie was the popular pick but got shafted in nomination because of the superdelegate system and prexisting bias from the clintons, and the entire republican party was at war with eachother for the longest time during the nomination cycle because the party themselves were gearing towards anyone who WASNT trump

And yes we all know the selection process was corrupt as fuck. Again, at least Trump's happened democratically and with no help from the media. The GOP wasn't even potent enough to stop him.

and at the end of the day, both parties ended up siding with the most polarizing candidates possible. i've found that not only frustrating because of the candidates chosen, but the fact that this is the most mean-spirited election i've seen. and it all comes from the people who have the gall to show pride in the one they're voting for. it pains me because neither one are worth supporting, let alone voicing any sort of zeal toward the respective candidate. arrogance was what put both of these candidates on the map, and it's arrogance that feeds both of their egos

Well I could be wrong, but I think a lot of the most zealous support for Trump (at least online) is in part ironic. It's two cups of gallows humor and one cup desire for slaying a scapegoat (not that TPTB aren't deserving of metaphorical (and perhaps literal) slaughter) and the catharsis that will bring.

even if it hadn't been for this horrible campaign- this always happens. every election, where political strife poisons us against eachother, through a stream of constant arguing/blocking on social media, and a superiority complex toward those who disagree with you. follow it up with a long recovery process only for the same thing to happen again 4 years later

Personally I've felt zero (serious) animosity for people voting for the other candidate, both in this thread and in meatspace. Most of my friends voted/are voting for Hillary in fact. I just tire of the self-satisfaction and unwillingness to engage a lot of people on either side (but mostly Clinton's) have demonstrated. Any (vocal or closeted) Trump supporter living in an urban area is immediately on the defensive, because Dems have social justice axioms in their arsenal they haven't in elections past, which they constantly play and become offended when you don't then immediately lay prostrate before them.

To most of us it's like viewing a sporting event (or anime). Yes it's a bloodsport but a sport nonetheless (see my point about gallows humor), and unlike anime (until Trump gets elected), it's partially real life, but furthering this line of argument would just lead to me quoting Baudrillard on this forum for the umpteenth time.

thats my two cents so yeah, vote for whoever you want, but remember that we're still all gonna have to live together regardless of the outcome

Except the untold numbers of celebrities moving to Canada, yes. I look forward to it.

take pride in who you are, not what others try to make out of you

Believe in the me who believes in you.

And yet, despite everything my left brain hemisphere is telling me, I can't help but feel a twinge of hope that the funny orange man might lead us collectively to better days. And yes, it might very well be a stroke, but it's a stroke of optimism.

[slack]

can we close this thread now?

[Bamyasi]

Can we close slack's posting privileges now all he does is bitch.

[Jon]

nO!!!!

[Yvonne]

The World will be watching.

Except the untold numbers of celebri

We don't want your orange tangerine hypocrite thank you very much. Nor do we want your laughing, back-handed promiser  as well.

All I ask is that there are no unnecessary presidential assassinations to bring on more hate. Hilary might go dead-dead and so can Donald. This is not a race war ("Shut the fuck up - holy fucking shit, ya dunce. No one gives a flying fuck about your friends [well - that was rude and not cool and ya I said it] - I've dealt with enough of this same moaning Myrtle cuck with the damned likes of you. This Sag boy fits the shape to a tee. Probably has something to do with their moon signs and some hard squares in their natal composition too - that vulnerability shit is just too much. Become a socialite and flaunt it - then it'll matter," Yvonne mutters. She is aware that she speaks in third person. She snipes his head off as she grins [do you like cake? I sniped your head in cream pie and cake - you aren't dead. I promise]).

As in Canadian elections, I am for people voting for the interest that their candidate does do them right by allowing their election campaign rallies to be true to word - like Blu illustrated (or maybe not? I'm sorry). Assuming, due to popular understanding, the risk of rigging will favour Hilary to be the candidate chosen to succeed the presidential election.

If Donald wins (I assume he wouldn't, rigged or not) - hypothetically, there is going to be bad blood.

The very worst is that we are allowed to see people pouring out on the streets ready for rioting (burning houses and gunning people - the usual historical means) in warm/cold November to timed passport renewals to move on out (which is silly yet I feel for the panicked) if either candidates win.

Good luck and may all our children learn from this historical dream-like election.

Provided that they don't go suicide pact-ing. Please don't. I'll be sad.

[BluPhoenix]

i think i know what my next shirt is gonna be after everything's said and done

[Bamyasi]

("Shut the fuck up - holy fucking shit, ya dunce. No one gives a flying fuck about your friends [well - that was rude and not cool and ya I said it] - I've dealt with enough of this same moaning Myrtle cuck with the damned likes of you. This Sag boy fits the shape to a tee. Probably has something to do with their moon signs and some hard squares in their natal composition too - that vulnerability shit is just too much. Become a socialite and flaunt it - then it'll matter," Yvonne mutters. She is aware that she speaks in third person. She snipes his head off as she grins [do you like cake? I sniped your head in cream pie and cake - you aren't dead. I promise]).

Translation please.

Does anyone here speak Yvonnese.

[Jon]

I'm trying to develop an understanding of it, but it's not easy. Nice music, by the way.

[soup]

what a mess

[rtil]

so

who do ya think is gonna win

[slack]

the music is perfect

[BluPhoenix]

Dingle Tump and Hillibong Celery will play mario kart today in the white house to decide who wins america

[soup]

if only all worldly disputes were settled with an intense (but well mannered) game of kart kings  ...

[Bamyasi]

[slack]

i voted for vermin supreme

[SrsSam77]

CHAOS RISING

[slack]

i dont think hes gonna win tho