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[crackers]

Thanks for your condolences. The aftermath of this is dreadful, at my school there's already been five people suspended for fighting, and one guy expelled for breaking someone's ribs. The general consensus appears to be we are going to be treated like a naughty child that's ran away from home, and now we're going to be punished by big daddy Westminster.

"get your udders out lads were gonna be milked, fuck the union!"

[crackers]

And no haha, we live to the big mostly left of that, we're in the council of Argyll and Bute, which were a strong 60/40 No to Yes ratio, sadly. Most people here voted no due to there being the nuclear weapons base (Trident), and if we were to become independent all the jobs there were said to be lost by the scaremongering No campaign.

No point complaining though, next time we'll have our independence. Next time, for definite.

[rtil]

i'd love to see a breakdown of the vote demographic besides yes/no, like age group, political alignment, etc.

[michaell]

you cant compare labor with democrats or any other mainstream party in the usa

what you consider left wing in the us would be ascribed the term 'centre right' in europe at least when it comes to economic policies, social garbage like gay marriages etc is a different story though

That's exactly what I was saying. We used to have a recognized socialist presence in the US but it died with the second Red Scare. I would never delineate our liberals as falling anywhere other than center right.

Also maybe you or someone could give reasons for being against Scottish independence, though I have trouble figuring why anyone living outside the UK would care.

Sorry for your loss, soup and crackers.

i read that scottish economy is shit despite sizable oil reservoirs etc cuz they all belong to natively english companies but i cant place my bet on that since ive never really immersed myself in the subject

as regards socialist party thooooooooooough

i recall reading about it yes

still even if it hadnt been for the red scare and the party would be extant now i dont think theyd have much validity anyway. the us is unequivocally a two party state with influence fluctuating but lets pretend all of a sudden there was a surge of support for socialists and the party would be elevated to the position of the party with MOST seats in the parliament etc. countries where there are 3+ parties generally rely on coalitions rather than one party rule because otherwise they wouldnt be able to forge any of their policies should they be a "minority" government. even if socialists won they wouldnt get more than 50% and theyd probably face virulent opposition inside the congress from both democrats and republicans i wouldnt be surprised if those two boycotted them effectively foiling any attempts to create a solid government. some people would lose tooooooo much money if guys like this were to rule. i surmise the reaction of most christian/traditionalist inclined societies would be equally aggressive anyway so red scare was pretty much a preemptive AND inevitable move it just goes by the rule better sooner than later i suppose

[soup]

the amount of gloating from the no campaigners is pretty sickening im not surprised there have been fights bro

the area where i live right now (dundee) had a majority yes vote im pretty sure

theres a massive art and design community here though which may be something to do with it. the majority of artists ive spoken to about independence (In my uni and around dundee) have all been very well informed and nearly all of them were voting Yes.

[michaell]

And no haha, we live to the big mostly left of that, we're in the council of Argyll and Bute, which were a strong 60/40 No to Yes ratio, sadly. Most people here voted no due to there being the nuclear weapons base (Trident), and if we were to become independent all the jobs there were said to be lost by the scaremongering No campaign.

No point complaining though, next time we'll have our independence. Next time, for definite.

i wonder if rtil and his kingdom of tba will recognise the independence of scotland?

[michaell]

the amount of gloating from the no campaigners is pretty sickening im not surprised there have been fights bro

the area where i live right now (dundee) had a majority yes vote im pretty sure

theres a massive art and design community here though which may be something to do with it. the majority of artists ive spoken to about independence (In my uni and around dundee) have all been very well informed and nearly all of them were voting Yes.

i think its probably more to do with the presence of YOUNG people rather than their professions

the young always like 'radical'/unorthodox solutions

[soup]

dundee's art and design community is ancient, including game design and development (DMA design aka Rockstar North haha) and a huge focus is normally on topical and contextual design work

i spoke to lecturers and peers far my senior, the inexperienced students fresh out of school like me are very much in the minority here

[crackers]

i'd love to see a breakdown of the vote demographic besides yes/no, like age group, political alignment, etc.

On the BBC they've released a couple of figures. Apparently before the postal votes, it was 50/50, but the Old age pensioners swung it round by a huge amount. Literally almost EVERY postal vote was for No (and there was around half a million of them)

Generally, 16-18 year olds are roughly 50/50 between no and yes.
18-25 year olds are in slight favour of Yes.
25-40 year olds are in slight favour of No.
40-55 year olds are categorically Yes (probably due to them being around for the 1979 referendum, which only didn't go through due to lack of turnout iirc)
55+ are categorically No, presumably over fear of losing their pensions and the like. Completely understandable.

[zwimmy]

Looks like the globalist elite win again.



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[SrsSam77]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/19/russia-calls-foul-scottish-referendum
Hey Scotland wanna be the new ukraine?

[Bamyasi]

Does anyone know the latest on the Russo-Ukrainian conflict?

Also dang crackers that sounds rough. We have similarly stark rural/urban voting divides in the states.

Also yeah michaell I agree with everything you're saying (regarding our socialist party, I have no opinion about Scotland aside feeling bad for our friends who voted yes).

Also what do you guys think about this supposed SJW changing of the guard on 4chan? Apparently a lot of people are migrating to 8chan so I wonder how long that will last. moot did compare #GamerGate to Project Chanology which I thought was fairly apt but even so we really need our Snacks back more than ever right now.

[JasonDog]

I don't like Alex Salmond, sorry.

[crackers]

I don't like Alex Salmond, sorry.

I don't like you.

[SrsSam77]

Also what do you guys think about this supposed SJW changing of the guard on 4chan? Apparently a lot of people are migrating to 8chan so I wonder how long that will last. moot did compare #GamerGate to Project Chanology which I thought was fairly apt but even so we really need our Snacks back more than ever right now.

It's fucked, Moot is dating a pr rep for Gawker media, who has exerted her feminine wiles to get moot to kick all the old mods and bring in new SJW minded ones.
Over the past week 4chan went nuclear, with an explosion of "he does it for free" shitposting that started on /sp/ which quickly exploded over into /v/ and /pol/. Those boards are now dead, crushed under the weight of the censors. You can be banned for saying nigger or an offensive word, for mentioning GamerGate, or saying anything about the censoring.
8chan is getting stronger daily, with banners here and 4chanX/appchanx support on the way, pls join us at www.8chan.co

[redmongoose]

nigger

[Bamyasi]

Yeah I saw the screencapped posts from the supposed ex-/d/ mod.

I haven't browsed /v/ much recently but I guess something like this has been a long time coming. I haven't liked all the changes moot has made to the site recently to make it more streamlined and web 2.0-user accessible (namely delayed pruning, getting rid of the email field, invisible sage, not being able to delete your own threads, etc. But I thought all the 4chanX emulation was unnecessary too so maybe I'm overly conservative). Honestly the only thing that's kept me on certain boards has been the community, so I'm sad to see another sizable split for the first time in five or six years.

I honestly blame all the people involved in the July 4th raids more than I do the administration. It's not 2007 anymore and gorespamming tumblr was a really childish thing to do. A "friendly takeover" would have been much funnier and effective, but I guess that wouldn't have aligned with their ED ideals. 4chan and the internet in general were much more playful and harmless before ED so yeah I guess I blame them in the end.

But most of all I blame the Jews.

[valiums]

/x/ is still posting the exact same crap it was when I first visited, God bless. /x/ is eternal.

[spoiler]Also /cm/ and /y/.
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[rtil]

imo this entire gamergate thing is really really stupid and overblown and i wish it would go away i don't give a fuck about either side

people will make the games they want to make and if they're dedicated nobody can stop them. gamers can whine about them but it won't ever change the fact that they exist

[Bamyasi]

From my understanding, lamers weren't whining about the games themselves, but rather people who don't actually care about games subverting established norms in the name of spreading their SJ agenda (i.e. treating the symptom and not the cause), and people trying to "intellectualize" the medium by making primitive visual novels and art games, which then get undue praise by pseudo-intellectual journalists who also don't actually care about games.

But maybe that's what you meant.